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very predictable. i have two that take turns coming inside. its kind of a kennel and rotate type deal although they tolerate each other to a certain degree. they both come in when its there turns i guess you can say. they play with our 2 toy dogs when they come in(one at a time). just becasue the dogs are from game lines dont make them killers. it just means you have to have alot more respect for them as the dog aggressive nature is bred in them. they take alot more time to exercise, but its not impossible. the thing is your cant be a person who is careless. you have to make sure the front doors are locked, dogs that they arent familiar with yours arent around basically all the rules there are in owning the APBT you have to be ontop of these rules 100% and way more. they are trouble makers to tell you the truth and if your not ontop of them they will get you in trouble. as far as loyalty they are the most loyal dogs on the earth, but they are troublemakers. will not recommend them to the first time pet owners nor the lazy. thats my take on it. then you also have to ask whats the reason to get one becasue its not like you can take them everywhere with you. if they are just going to be pets left to be in the house all day and have no physical work at all the breed is not for you.
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No. Get a staffordshire terrier. Registered through a REAL registry. |
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Yes, they can make wonderful pets provided they have an educated owner and an outlet for the energy,they need a lot of exercise and more supervision then most breeds, but ownership is rewarding. Honestly though, you'll not easily find someone that will allow a game-bred dog to go to a pet home. Most of these types of breeders want show homes or working homes. |
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Thanks everyone. I thought that with the proper exercise, structure and responsibility that they would make great pets as well as working dog. I just wanted to hear from some people that know first hand. I am getting prepared for our new pup, even though I have no plans set in stone to get one yet. I just want to be as prepared as possible so I can make bringing a working dog into our home a fun and enjoyable experience. I have Already found a K9 officer who also trains dogs on the side to help me with training, got my bike leash, set a crate up and will be working on a flirt pole next. I am getting things in order ahead of time.
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I have owned a game bred dog and it was as good a pet as any dog I ever owned. Unfortunately in order to get a game bred dog you have to get it from a criminal because it is illegal to game test and therefore illegal to actually breed. When you are talking to a breeder who has game bred dogs, since he is a person engaged in illegal activities I am sure you can certainly trust him? Not to mention that in some way by demanding a game bred dog, you are contributing to the problem of dog fighting.
If you want a pet get a pet and don't worry about game bred. If you want to compete in weight pulling get a dog bred from a champion weight puller. Weight pulling and game testing are two completely different things and dogs who are good at one are not necessarily good at the other. While gameness can result in a dog that is very determined to pull weight, it doesn't make a dog necessarily able to pull weight where as on the other hand a truly game dog can win a fight purely on gameness alone because he will outlast an even more capable fighter. I would just find a good dog and do as you plan with great training, mainly because no matter how much you think you are getting a game dog, you will never really know unless of course you find out the old fashioned way, which of course you would never do. |
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well getting a dog from game lines and getting a dog that was game bred is two totally different things. game lines are dogs with fighting ancestry 2-3-4 generations back in the pedigree. dogs that are game bred are off proven fighting dams and sires. both still make great pets and will even get along with household pets of the opposite breed peacefully. it is not hard at all to get dogs from game lines it is hard however to get dogs off game dogs that are bred to have game bred litters. this however would be risky if this was the case and talking publicly about wanting a game litter or even selling game litter would be highly stupid and illegal. however owning dogs from game lines are not risky and to me is something of a historic dog to have. it does not support dog fighting because most of the dogs from game lines or are even game bred dont get used in dog fighting in most cases. just like the dogs that make up the majority of the APBT's only 1% probably gets used in dog fighting. in most cases good people with good intentions that understand the breed entirely get dogs from game lines and dont use them for illegal activities.
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Even Am Staffs, and just about every APBT if they are pure bred dogs come from game lines. Game bred is a completely different thing as I would not consider any pit bull game bred unless it comes from a game tested sire and dam. Beyond that it is just a matter of how far removed a dog is from its game bred ancestors. Game breeding is just that. Games lines are anything removed from game testing by one generation or more IMO.
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I hadn't really thought about the distinction between game bred dogs and game line dogs. Let me be clear and say that I am not looking to get a game bred dog in the sense that said pups parents are proven.
I mistakenly said that the grandparents of the litter that I am looking at were proven (rrom what online peds states), when in fact it was one more generation back. I am not good at reading peds but that's a whole nother story |
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Dogs from good game lines are great pets typically. Most folks would never find out if there dog is game anyway as unless your dog is getting his ass kicked for 10 minutes and you allow it to happen, you would never have a clue as to whether or not he is actually game. In the old days even within a litter of pups from game tested parents, typically did not all the pups proved to be game. The very nature of game testing is to determine which dogs are game and which are not. The famous horse Secretariat did not produce any winners. Gameness is the most elusive trait of all and that is the very reason for game breeding. Sire and dam are just part of the equation. Many game dogs did not come from the best of breeding backgrounds.
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Dogs from good game lines are great pets typically. Most folks would never find out if there dog is game anyway as unless your dog is getting his ass kicked for 10 minutes and you allow it to happen, you would never have a clue as to whether or not he is actually game. In the old days even within a litter of pups from game tested parents, typically did not all the pups proved to be game. The very nature of game testing is to determine which dogs are game and which are not. The famous horse Secretariat did not produce any winners. Gameness is the most elusive trait of all and that is the very reason for game breeding. Sire and dam are just part of the equation. Many game dogs did not come from the best of breeding backgrounds. |
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Gamebred dogs come directly from game lines, but are not tested for gameness and are therefore called gamebred. If you're buying a legit gamebred dog from a breeder, it is very closely related to several dogs that have been proven. Or a dog linebred from a proven dog and other gamebred dogs. Haha. Every dogman seems to have his personal preference for how watered down a dog can be and still be called gamebred. No one can ever agree on anything when it comes to APBTs. XD We're as bad as GSD people, if not worse.
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