[Seiblybiozy]

Maybe it would help you feel better if you could help just one person with options you are aware of and they may not be. This was posted just yesterday and sounds like you may have some advice they may be looking for ... Knee surgery! Can anyone recommend an affordable vet in phila?

I see you still haven't responded in ^^^ this thread yet. Why not ??

[barsikjal]

I was raised with a German Shepherd for 17 years and we had to make the painful decision to put him down due to him gaining bone spurs on his hip, arthritis, and a mild case of hip/joint problems. The money wasn't what concerned my family, we were all willing to do whatever it took to prolong his life, but we had to ask ourselves (How would Boo like it, living in pain for as long as he had left with meds/therapy every day?) - The answer came to us about 2 weeks later when we were all outside in our backyard, he fell down and gave *that* look. If you've ever seen an old dog tell you it's time, you know the look. It hurt all of the people who knew/loved Boo, but it had to be done. Doing anything else would have been selfish and wrong.

Boo taught me a lot about showing compassion for living things and loyalty and friendship. Boo also taught me the lesson of life/death and how to respect and cherish it. (I'd never experienced a loss of a loved one before that.)

I don't know how your client came to the conclusion..but I'm sure we all *hope* and *assume* it wasn't easy for your client to decide to end their friendship so soon. Protect/prolong life at all cost. -But what if the life you are so "saving" is better off NOT being saved? We don't know their pain/suffering, we're not them. Our loyal friends and companions rely on us to make the ultimate decision.

[Eltabaco]

I am fortunate enough to be able to have given my dog 2 life saving surgeries, and her quality of life hasn't changed and I was told the same thing about her odds of recovery, the prognosis is a individual as the diagnosis. I would never let my dog suffer needlessly or for my own selfish reasons nor would I put myself in financial destress.

This kind of rubs me the wrong way and pisses me off a bit. Why does this matter? Other than to 'brag' you've been able to afford these surgeries?

[kenowinnumberss]

... holy cow.. the OP was just stating that she felt down about somebody having to make a difficult decision because of finances... one that she had to make once. Kind of a "wow... *I* could have been in those shoes, thank god that, at that time, I was able to help my pet, but it takes so little to be on the other side of the coin. Kind of like an empathy thing? Anybody ever had that here? Feel bad for somebody else? I have.

[nilliraq]

This kind of rubs me the wrong way and pisses me off a bit. Why does this matter? Other than to 'brag' you've been able to afford these surgeries?

Oh GOOD, I'm not the only one!

All I'm getting from the OP, personally, is that she is looking down her nose at someone who won't or can't afford to spend $4,000 on a possibility...

[WumibBesowe]

I see you still haven't responded in ^^^ this thread yet. Why not ??

I see you are still writing sarcastic comment, I don't live in Phila so how can I recommend an affordable vet?

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This kind of rubs me the wrong way and pisses me off a bit. Why does this matter? Other than to 'brag' you've been able to afford these surgeries?

thats what you got out of that, that I am bragging.... if you read my OP and some of the replies written you would see why it was written. Jeseus Christ I can't believe how many judgemental MF aer on this site, appaerently you can't feel bad for someone else and post it on here without people thinking your a narcissistic, bragging or taking like your looking down your nose at their decision, which by the way was not what I was doing all I said is it saddens me she had to do it cause he was only 3.....WTF

[barsikjal]

@Roberta Ventura

I apologize if what I posted was taken negatively, but you must see how *some* people who read your post may take what you said and interpret it in a different way other than how it was meant to be read/taken. "he needed knee surgery and thought the 4000. was to much with a 50% out look. It just saddens me that she didn't feel there was another option"

I can assure you I did not intend for my post to be taken as an insult to you, (if it was taken that way). It was just my take/personal feelings on your post.

[Seiblybiozy]

I see you are still writing sarcastic comment, I don't live in Phila so how can I recommend an affordable vet?

Well that's a nice cop-out right there. IF you read the post you can clearly see she can't afford a $3000 surgical fee regardless of who the vet is. Where are the options you spoke of that you found for your dog ??

[TheLucyLee]

Well that's a nice cop-out right there. IF you read the post you can clearly see she can't afford a $3000 surgical fee regardless of who the vet is. Where are the options you spoke of that you found for your dog ??

How do you know her dog and that posters dog have the same issues? Luxating patella isn't a super common issue in the breed, I had assumed we were originally discussing a torn ccl.

[Seiblybiozy]

There's always options right ?? Wasn't that EXACTLY the point being made ??
It hasn't been said what the "knee problem(s)" were in the OP.

I'm looking around on the Internet concerning Luxating Patella right now, but I don't think I can help the linked poster. Anything Grade 2 and above, surgery is recommended. $2800-$3000 seems to be the going price in the PA, NJ and NY area. MAYBE if she were affiliated with a shelter or rescue somehow ... she MIGHT have a hookup for a discounted rate.

If her dog only has Grade 1 or MAYBE Grade 2, Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM might work for a time.

If I knew something that was truly a viable option ... I would post in the other thread.

I'm sorry the OP of this thread has to go through this and, "It just saddens me that she didn't feel there was another option". I hope she finds peace.

[opergolon]

I was going to stay away from this thread, but I just can't! LOL!

I want to say I was in the same position as Joe was in two times last year with 2 different cats that I have raised from tiny babies. I had my cats longer than my daughter has been alive! I loved them dearly, but one came down with some form of cancer. His abdomen kept retaining fluid and the vet could drain it, he would be ok for a few days, and it would fill back up. I LOVED THIS ANIMAL and had the option of continuing the draining and the exploratory surgery, lots of expense, and so on, and made the decision that Caesar, my boy, did not want that. It was hard to do. But I speak as one here also that PTS a treasured pet, and I did grieve over it, and it hurt like hell, but I feel it was the right thing to do.

[WumibBesowe]

There's always options right ?? Wasn't that EXACTLY the point being made ??
It hasn't been said what the "knee problem(s)" were in the OP.

I'm looking around on the Internet concerning Luxating Patella right now, but I don't think I can help the linked poster. Anything Grade 2 and above, surgery is recommended. $2800-$3000 seems to be the going price in the PA, NJ and NY area. MAYBE if she were affiliated with a shelter or rescue somehow ... she MIGHT have a hookup for a discounted rate.

If her dog only has Grade 1 or MAYBE Grade 2, Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM might work for a time.

If I knew something that was truly a viable option ... I would post in the other thread.

I'm sorry the OP of this thread has to go through this and, "It just saddens me that she didn't feel there was another option". I hope she finds peace.

No that wasn't the point being made, the only point I made or was trying to make is that I was sad she had to put her dog down because she felt she had no other option...never said there was another option for her dog, and the 4000 comment was because it IS so dam expensive and maybe shouldn't be cause its not a life threatening injury (torn acl) and then more people wouldn't have to make such a gut renching decision.. maybe it was the way it was worded that caused such a judgemental reaction.

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Not to mention no where in my OP did I say or imply that my client was not sad, nor that the decision she made wasn' difficult or hard.... she has been my client for about 5 years so I am fully aware of how hard this was for her and her husband....I have known him since she brought him home, so ya I am sad.. I like all my clients dogs alot and am sad when something terrible happens to them, if I didn't then there would be something wrong with me... its called empathy people!

[Seiblybiozy]

If anyone has options/advice and haven't posted there yet, this person could use some help too and just posted an update today (ACL/CCL) ...
Dog needs surgery

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No that wasn't the point being made, the only point I made or was trying to make is that I was sad she had to put her dog down because she felt she had no other option...never said there was another option for her dog,

interesting

My dog has the same issue she has had surgery on one knee with great results and she was 8 when she had it, and physical therapy for the other for around 300. and it worked wonders with a bit of anti-inflammatory so, sometimes there are other options.

[JulieSmithXIV]

I am sorry about the loss of their beloved pet, I understand the empathy you have, and understand how it can weigh on your heart. When your providing care to someone, their life effects their care, I don't feel it is unprofessional for you to have an emotional attachment. Its impossible to take that away, and it is usually the reason many choose to take care of others. You care! I think I would feel more secure with someone like you, instead of someone rushing thru their day, getting as many visits in as possible to bump up their paycheck.

[WumibBesowe]

apparently no matter how many times I write, I WAS JUST SAD about what happened to her dog and surgery is way to expensive. Some moron is gonna twist it.
so @ everyone who read more into the post than was meant, or assume they know what kind of a person i am just from a post

[Seiblybiozy]

[WumibBesowe]

[QUOTE=JoeBingo;1175723]Furthermore (and then I will shut up before I get further out of line) ...
Maybe you shoulkd take your own advise already!!

[Seiblybiozy]

Excellent Point !!!
I rest my case your honor

[forumsfavoriteall]

I'm not a furdaddy so I wouldn't bat an eye putting my dog down in a situation like that. I would feel sad about it though.