[arrendabomnem]

she used to walk just fone, minus the pulling, and i bought a prong collar and that helped out alot. we used it a couple times and she did just fine with it, but about a week ago I tried to take her on a walk and when she went to pull and saw she wasnt going to get away with it she stopped and laid down, so i thought maybe it was hurting her and took it off. started to walk and when she pulled i just stopped and then shorten her leash and when we started to go and she realised she wasnt going to get to pull she quit. so we tried again tonight, both with and without the prong collar and she flat out refuses to walk! after i took off the prong collar, only had it on a few minutes and she tried to pull and realised it wasnt comfortable she laid down and refused to walk until i unhooked the leash and called her back to the house (we were only in the driveway) put on the regular collar, and as soon as i put the leash on she laid back down and refused to move. i got her to walk a few steps coaxing her with treats but after a few steps laid down wouldnt move didnt even come to me for the treat. took the leash off and she was all about wanting her treats! i am soo confused and dont know what to do to get her to walk!!! i even tried 2 different leashed because i thought maybe she just didnt like the new one

[U2DnBGFE]

She's playing with you. She doesn't move.. you take off the leash and give her treats. Would YOU move? LOL

Put the leash on her and go for a walk. If she lays down, make her ass get up and keep walking. She's being lazy and pushy.

[arrendabomnem]

So should I just keep walking and drag her along until she stops being a brat and give up and walks? Lol

[U2DnBGFE]

Pretty much! LOL That's what I would do, anyways. I mean.. don't drag her on her side down the sidewalk (if someone is watching, you could get in trouble )... But yeah, don't let her win!

Someone will probably tell you to bribe her with treats and make it more "positive" though haha

[juliannamed]

So should I just keep walking and drag her along until she stops being a brat and give up and walks? Lol

ahaha oh man i would be so frustrated

[MaickiP]

When she lays down, make it rather unpleasant. Does she hate to be squirted with water??? then get a super soaker and let her have it when she does this.

Lots of praise when she walks, Angry voice and squirt gun when she refuses. If she previously knew how to walk, this is a bratty temper tantrum. What would you do if you had a 4yr old child sitting in the store refusing to move because they were not getting their way???

[Peter Hill]

I don't like the idea of using water as punishment. Some dogs become fearful of it when you use it that way.

I would work on walking inside the house. Keep the leash on and let her wander around with it on. Stop fawning over the dog as Teal said. You'll never get her trained if she always wins.

How is your prong placement on her? Having it too low, IS uncomfortable. It needs to sit high on the neck behind her ears.

[Desflahd]

Your in charge. Pull her ass up and get her moving whether she wants to or not. It's not up to her and it doesn't have to be pleasant. When she does walk again and she starts pulling you give a good tug on the leash and get her back where you want her. My rule is that the dog's shoulder never goes past my leg. If it does they get a tug and a "no". If they continue to walk through it then you use the leash to put them where you want them. It don't take long.

[thighikergove]

I don't like the idea of using water as punishment. Some dogs become fearful of it when you use it that way.

I agree, I used vinegar in my spray bottle (as a bark deterrent )

I like to use a 2" collar with a leash with a traffic handle on it for training. Put the collar as high up on the neck as possible, hold the traffic handle and go. There shouldn't be enough slack for the dog to pull or lay down. Once she starts walking on her own, then give a treat if you want but I prefer praise because it doesn't detract from the walk itself; it you pause to treat, you may have to start all over again.

[mylittlejewelaa]

Don't giver her enough slack on the leash/collar to lie down in the first place. Hold it short, and high, and basically force her to keep walking right next to you. If she starts walking well next to you on her own, give a slight slack in the leash, and praise. She'll get the picture pretty quickly!

[arrendabomnem]

I Have a leash with a traffic holder and that's what I was using at first, but she basically tried to sit down while I was holding it! I was just kind of worried it was the wrong thing to do to pull her if she wouldn't walk!

[Desflahd]

Nope, it's not wrong. She's not walking because she wants to, she's walking because you want to. I bet she'll learn pretty quickly to walk with you.

[arrendabomnem]

Thanks a ton!! After SEVERAL blocks of having to pull her I think she got the hint that it was in her best interest to give in and just walk! I was using my leash with the extra handle near the clip ( that a traffic leash?) to keep her near me. We still have to practice the not pulling but tonight h really didn't do to bad! She does want to stop and not move when other people are on the other side of th road walking the same direction, and just stare at them, and doesn't like it much when dogs bark at her, but I didn't coddle her when she started to act a little unsure, just kept on walking like it was no big deal

[MaickiP]

YEAH!!!!!!!! If you are confident and the leader, she will follow! Great job, glad you worked through it!

[U2DnBGFE]

Don't giver her enough slack on the leash/collar to lie down in the first place. Hold it short, and high, and basically force her to keep walking right next to you. If she starts walking well next to you on her own, give a slight slack in the leash, and praise. She'll get the picture pretty quickly!

You would be surprised! LOL I know one dog who will just collapse in a fit of bratty behaviour... if you're holding her collar or leash really short, she'll still do it and choke herself. She's a bitch! LOL

Thanks a ton!! After SEVERAL blocks of having to pull her I think she got the hint that it was in her best interest to give in and just walk! I was using my leash with the extra handle near the clip ( that a traffic leash?) to keep her near me. We still have to practice the not pulling but tonight h really didn't do to bad! She does want to stop and not move when other people are on the other side of th road walking the same direction, and just stare at them, and doesn't like it much when dogs bark at her, but I didn't coddle her when she started to act a little unsure, just kept on walking like it was no big deal

So glad to hear there was improvement! Keep it up!

[Desflahd]

I'm glad to hear your persistance paid off. Congrats.

[marketheal]

First I would say to pick her up as soon as she lays down as well as starting to walk when doing so. Next I would advise you to use a gentle leader. My pup Bentley used to drag and pull all the time, though he did get better with time but i was told by a friend who also has a pit to buy a gentle leader. It made a drastic change in the way he walked, if he stepped in front a simple light tug up and stern "ey" is what i use when hes doing something wrong and he falls back in line behind the leader aka me. With the gentle leader when u tug on the lead it puts pressure on the nose and scruff as a mother dog would do, it also forces the dog to look at whoevers on the other end of the lead. I would highly advise trying this considering I've used it for about 2 months and within 2 or 3 walks with it he has completely changed his habits.

[buyviagraonlineusatoday]

Umm ya and you have a dog with major neck issues from it having it's head twisted around so much.. And I would not be using one on a youn powerful breed...the prong is the safest most effect training tool IMO that doesn't damage the dog. And no the gentle leader do not put pressure on the scruff not sure where you got that from how would it do that when it attaches at the bottom where the muzzle piece fits?

[marketheal]

That's why i said LIGHT tug that doesn't hurt the dog in any way it just reinforces that he must follow you. And its way less "damaging" than a prong collar considering this is literally pushing pieces of metal into your dogs neck... and yes it attaches underneath but it's designed in a way that when you lightly tug on the lead it applies pressure to the muzzle and scruff. Also it doesn't matter how powerful the breed if you're walking them correctly with only abou at foot of lead between you and the dog there's no way it could injure the dog in anyway. Again, it doesn't "twist the dogs head" it just turns it to look up at you letting them know you're in charge. And if you still don't believe me that it puts pressure on the scruff take a look at their webpage.... Gentle Leader Product Description - Premier Pet
and from someone who actually owns one and can say that it does just that.

[crazuMovies]

And its way less "damaging" than a prong collar considering this is literally pushing pieces of metal into your dogs neck... That's not really how it works so much as a pinch, and sorry, but no. A properly secured and adjusted prong collar has less chance of incidence
and yes it attaches underneath but it's designed in a way that when you lightly tug on the lead it applies pressure to the muzzle and scruff. Also it doesn't matter how powerful the breed if you're walking them correctly with only abou at foot of lead between you and the dog there's no way it could injure the dog in anyway. Again, it doesn't "twist the dogs head" it just turns it to look up at you letting them know you're in charge. And if you still don't believe me that it puts pressure on the scruff take a look at their webpage.... Gentle Leader Product Description - Premier Pet
and from someone who actually owns one and can say that it does just that. As someone who has owned one and someone who has seen multiple dogs land in the vet for having their necks torqued, I'll personally never use one again and would prefer the harness version or even a flat buckle collar to one of those neck breakers again