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Old 02-22-2012, 07:31 PM   #1
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I just moved to a new neighborhood and my neighbor across the street was trying to tell my wife to let us breed Bernie to his female. I briefly met his female the first day I went to see my new house when it ran across the street loose while three little kids were trying to bring it back to the house with no parents around. I got the dog to follow me back to the house because she wasn't listening to the kids and I told their mom to be careful with the dog off leash.

I saw two guys with some Pet bulls in front of his house this Saturday and they were there for a while I am guessing talking about how to breed the dog. She doesn't really look like your typey media pit bull she looks long and slender I could see her being a mix of many breeds. The kid that owns the dog is about 20 years old or so and from the looks of it the dog is never contained or supervised properly. I really want to go this house today or tomorrow and talk to him and his parents to try to convince him to fix the dog. In all seriousness there are couple of dogs in that street and with such poor management of that dog I can see it getting in trouble with other dogs. I am really not a fan of talking crap to people or getting in their business, but since I own a dog that resembles that dog I want to prevent an accident that can affect my dog and I also want the kid to know how many homeless pet bulls need homes and that he shouldn't contribute.
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:58 PM   #2
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It affects you since they're your neighbors. And as a neighbor, it's right to politely voice your concerns to them as you'll be living near each other for awhile.
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:12 PM   #3
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My wife just called me and told me that the kid is in the front of the house with his two friends and his dog is loose running around every where. The neighbors had to pick up their leashed dogs that they were about to bring into the car because his dog came running at them and the leashed dogs were growling and snapping at it, meanwhile the dog's owner is taking his sweet time to get the dog and it doesn't even listen to him.

Man I gotta do something about it..
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:48 PM   #4
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I would be upset that the dog is running loose and obviously out of control. I would hate for you to be walking Bernie and have the other dog start something and ending badly on either end.
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Old 02-23-2012, 03:10 AM   #5
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I am one of those people that HATES sticking my nose where it doesn't belong. I hate situations in "real life" (clearly I'm a pushy keyboard warrior! lol) that put me directly into other peoples' business. It makes me uncomfortable and to put it bluntly, I feel like a piece of shit. I try to live my life without voicing judgement aloud if it doesn't affect me.

Now if something puts me, someone I care about (which includes my animals) or an innocent person, like an old lady with a hat and cane or child, I will say something. Because I hate doing it, if I get flack, I usually flip my lid. Or, if I can politely wedge myself into the situation so I can get in their ear (when it comes to dogs) I will.

I think the dogs running around loose is a situation where I would say something. I personally wouldn't go over with the intention of discussing breeding. It seems a little obnoxious to tell someone you don't know that they just shouldn't breed their dogs. I get that they probably shouldn't, but the general public obviously doesn't look at breeding the way we do.

I'd just try to be as friendly as possible, say hello, and then ever so smoothly segway into a conversation about their dogs, after intro's something like; I see you've got some beautiful dogs! What are their names... ages, wtf'ever... I just wanted to mention I've got a dog myself, he is not very dog friendly, in fact I'm pretty sure it would cause quite a stir if your dogs came up to him loose, I've got some spare tether materials if you'd like. I could show you how to set it up... etc etc.

Of course you could just call AC and they'd probably take the dogs or fine them, but I just wouldn't go about it that way. My mom always told me; Unless you've got a good solution, don't run around pointing out problems.

Either way, hope something gets figured out!
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Old 02-23-2012, 03:18 AM   #6
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The unleashed dog is your business. The breeding is not.

I wouldn't hesitate to say something about the unleashed dog. He'd get ONE warning from me and then a call to Animal Control. Unleashed pit bulls are nothing to mess around with, and they give all of our good dogs and us good owners a bad name.
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Old 02-23-2012, 03:59 AM   #7
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Good advice given already.

The situation you're in happens all across America. I'm thousands of miles away from you and what you describe happens right across the street from me in the rental home.

The best I could come up with was to try and be friendly with the folks, talk dogs a bit and make statements about my concerns and opinion. Doesn't do any good. I'm an old guy ... a 20 years old young man that's already got it all figured out ... or who needs some money and thinks breeding will bring it ... won't listen. It's very frustrating ... I'm glad that bunch finally moved out. At least it's not in my face anymore.

I found a stray pit bull once and determined where it belonged. I talked to the guy about a proper tie out and THEN ... took one to him. He used it, so there was some success there.

Another time there was a stray pit bull ... I gave it a forever home and I just lost Rowdy to mast cell cancer last September after almost 5 years.

Free roaming dogs of every breed and feral cats are a problem around here. About all I can do is call AC. I don't like to, but have done so in hope they would speak with the owners and explain the law to them. But there is always the possibility when AC is called, that the owner will surrender and the otherwise perfectly good animal will be put down for no other reason than the owner was irresponsible and couldn't manage their pets.

I'm just thinking out loud because your post hit home. I hope others will continue to chime in with good advice.
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:17 AM   #8
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The unleashed dog is your business. The breeding is not.
I like this. I also agree that loose bulldogs give us all a bad name.
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:28 AM   #9
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The unleashed dog is your business. The breeding is not.

I wouldn't hesitate to say something about the unleashed dog. He'd get ONE warning from me and then a call to Animal Control. Unleashed pit bulls are nothing to mess around with, and they give all of our good dogs and us good owners a bad name.
This is what I would do and how i feel.

If you want give him information about his dog and then from there it is up to him what to do with his dog. I would definately talk to him about being responsible about his dog getting out though
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:30 AM   #10
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I'd say something about the breeding too. As advocates for responsible breeding, what would be if we didn't try to educate people? We wouldn't be part of any sort of solution, that's for sure. So yeah, I say voice your opinions and concerns, or even call animal control next time his dog is loose.
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:42 AM   #11
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I'd say something about the breeding too. As advocates for responsible breeding, what would be if we didn't try to educate people? We wouldn't be part of any sort of solution, that's for sure. So yeah, I say voice your opinions and concerns, or even call animal control next time his dog is loose.
This is all personal opinion, but as someone that considers myself to be quite the stickler for responsible breeding, and someone that deals with the general dog owning public, coming at people too strong puts them on the defensive and you'll never get anywhere. I've learned the saying; You catch more flies with honey than vinegar rings true when dealing with clients and people that come through the doors eager to talk dogs (even if they aren't very educated, their heart is in the right place). I look at it like training methods. I personally think positive reinforcement methods are the best, but when someone comes through the door with a prong collar on, discussing how they alpha roll their dog and smack it with a newspaper I don't jump on every wrong I see. I pick and choose my battles and work my way from there once I've built a relationship. But hey, once again, just my opinion and from my experience this is the path I choose for myself and those I encounter. Doesn't mean I don't educate people, I just do it in my own, non-abrasive manner and find I have much better results than my counter-parts that don't.

I would much rather not discuss breeding with this neighbor and get the dogs contained properly and possibly at least talk about breeding later on, than come on strong, tell them to contain their dogs and not breed, scare them off and then have a bad relationship with a neighbor who backyard breeds AND still has loose dogs running around.
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Old 02-23-2012, 06:34 AM   #12
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I'd say something about the breeding too. As advocates for responsible breeding, what would be if we didn't try to educate people? We wouldn't be part of any sort of solution, that's for sure. So yeah, I say voice your opinions and concerns, or even call animal control next time his dog is loose.
If you go at this young guy with some holier than thou sermon about what he should or shouldn't do with HIS dog at best your harping will only fall on deaf ears, at worst he'll tell you to go to hell and mind your own business while his loose dog shits on your yard. You can't just throw your opinions at everyone and expect them to listen or care about what you have to say. That's not education, that's nagging and nobody's going to pay attention to it. Talk to the guy about his loose dog sure, but unless you know him or his family well, stay out of his business. I'm not really sure about how to change the guy's mind about breeding his dog, but I promise that descending from on high to herald the benefits of sterilization is not the way to do it.
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Old 02-23-2012, 06:44 AM   #13
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If you go at this young guy with some holier than thou sermon about what he should or shouldn't do with HIS dog at best your harping will only fall on deaf ears, at worst he'll tell you to go to hell and mind your own business while his loose dog shits on your yard. You can't just throw your opinions at everyone and expect them to listen or care about what you have to say. That's not education, that's nagging and nobody's going to pay attention to it. Talk to the guy about his loose dog sure, but unless you know him or his family well, stay out of his business. I'm not really sure about how to change the guy's mind about breeding his dog, but I promise that descending from on high to herald the benefits of sterilization is not the way to do it.
well said. while him breeding can hurt the breed him letting the dog loose in the neighborhood is far more of an issue because it affects every person in that neighborhood. the best thing the OP could do is introduce himself to the neighbor since he said he just moved there. get to know the guy and let him know of his concerns of the dog being loose and what can happen. that is the saftey of his own dog and the neighbors. if done in a neighborly way then maybe he can get to know the guy and go from there on the breeding issue.

it bothers me when others feel it is right to judge other people that they don't know and think they know what is best for them and their property. (OP I am not talking about you in this statement it is general to the public because it seems to be more common these days). talking to neighbors seems to be a lost form of communication these days.
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:01 AM   #14
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I agree with PM.
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:55 AM   #15
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When did I say go at him hard with a "holier than though" sermon? Sorry, but I don't recall ever saying that. But he can explain to him the dangers of breeding and the amount of animals put to sleep each year. I never said to attack the man, but I did say to attempt to educate him. Like I said, if we do not stand up for what we believe in and attempt to educate people about responsible breeding, then we are NOT part of a solution.
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Old 02-23-2012, 08:03 AM   #16
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I'm not trying to be offensive, but going up to someone you don't know, especially when you're new to the neighorhood and telling them what they should or should not be doing with their dog IS a "holier than thou" know it all attitude. I don't know how to explain it any better than that except to say that it would be a rude thing to do and will not help educate this young man in any way. If anything it will make him get stubborn and he'd probably breed just to spite the lady across the street.
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Old 02-23-2012, 08:13 AM   #17
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I'm not trying to be offensive, but going up to someone you don't know, especially when you're new to the neighorhood and telling them what they should or should not be doing with their dog IS a "holier than thou" know it all attitude. I don't know how to explain it any better than that except to say that it would be a rude thing to do and will not help educate this young man in any way. If anything it will make him get stubborn and he'd probably breed just to spite the lady across the street.
I wouldn't think so. If he says something along the way of conversation like "So, I heard you were breeding your dog?" and the man says yes and some monologue after that, the OP can say "Well, did you know....?" and so on. You can conversation and inform people without an attitude. I've done it many times.
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Old 02-23-2012, 08:21 AM   #18
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And the sermon starts with "Well did you know....". That's exactly what I'm talking about. He doesn't know the guy, or anything about him. If anti breeding(in this case) were his view he would have no right to impose it without invitation. Maybe I take my dogs more seriously than most I don't know but to me that's rude and prying and definately unwelcomed. I would be defensive and wondering just what kind of wacko moved in across the street.
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Old 02-23-2012, 08:26 AM   #19
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Well, in my experience most people aren't so defensive.
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Old 02-23-2012, 08:32 AM   #20
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Well, in my experience most people aren't so defensive.
I have had the above done to me many times when I have Judge in public ON leash cause OMG...he has balls....and dogs just can't be happy if thy have balls and you must be contributing to the over population problem if your dog is intact.

Anymore when someone comes at me like you said you would do to someone Barbara...I walk away...usaully leaving with a rude crappy comment!!!

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