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Old 03-14-2012, 07:47 AM   #1
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Its kinda dark but as you can see Violet loves some dogs lol well so far its just Ruckus and our neighbors husky
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:01 AM   #2
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Default is there a way to fix this?
Violet i know is a dominant dog. Right now the only dog she is aloud around really is ruckus. But even at one point there was a problem with her and ruckus.. When she sees a dog even through a grate she kind of growls,wags her tail, but the hair right above her hair stands up, and if you let them around eachother violet will been it down growling and snarling but not biting.. can i fix this?
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:01 AM   #3
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Dogs don't fit into clear cut, black and white categories.

Your bitch may not like puppies. I know plenty of adult dogs that don't.

Your bitch may not get on with dogs on the other side of a barrier. Neither does my Saluki all the time, who is utterly dog friendly otherwise (except with puppies.. see above comment!)

There's no use trying to fit your dog into a label or standard of what people tell you is or isn't DA, dominance, etc. Learn YOUR dog, HER likes/dislikes, and manage her accordingly.
Lovely post and I agree!

Dakota also hates puppies, they get the "Come any closer and you'll regret it" look.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:01 AM   #4
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we don't i am talking bout from past because in the end i would love for all of the dogs to be able to be around each other.. the two times it has happened with adults it happens once and then she acts like they are best friends after that.. but i would just rather she didnt do it to puppies because of how big she is

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i havent aloud violet around dogs besides ruckus since we got ruckus.. i was just wondering if there was something i could do so that i could have all the dogs out at once when i take em out to play or if forever its going to be violet and ruckus out and then put them away and take the others out
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:01 AM   #5
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Dominance asserting is fine for dogs like GSDs and hounds and others were their origins aren't for dog fighting. A pit / pit type dog has origins which lie DEEP in dog fighting. With a pit when it goes, as said before, DA there's not much to do as a means of changing it... in fact I believe it gets worst with some dogs with age.

If you're getting advice from people whom have never owned a pit / pit type before then you should take it with a grain of salt cause you can't apply what's dominance in other breeds to a pit [at least not safety for all dogs concerned in my mind].
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:01 AM   #6
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Dogs don't fit into clear cut, black and white categories.

Your bitch may not like puppies. I know plenty of adult dogs that don't.

Your bitch may not get on with dogs on the other side of a barrier. Neither does my Saluki all the time, who is utterly dog friendly otherwise (except with puppies.. see above comment!)

There's no use trying to fit your dog into a label or standard of what people tell you is or isn't DA, dominance, etc. Learn YOUR dog, HER likes/dislikes, and manage her accordingly.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:01 AM   #7
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Sounds like she doesn't want the other dog near her. Why do you continue to allow other dogs to be put in harm's way by allowing them near her?
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:01 AM   #8
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Violet when she was a puppy was very sociaized until i got hurt and she went about a month without seeing another dog and next thing i knew she was how she is.. but behind a barrier she just growls and does her little tail shake thing which i learned isnt always good.. but its if you move the barrier she is a real bitch for a minute.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:01 AM   #9
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Many pits are selectively DA.. Ok with some dogs and hate others. If shes ok with a dog, let her be around it but with CONSTANT SUPERVISION. Even non DA pits can very suddenly get into a fight. Also get a break stick. She sounds selective DA to me, and if thats the case then no, unfortunately it cannot be fixed. Its just part of the breed.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:01 AM   #10
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It's hard to say if it's dominance or aggression without seeing it happen. It could also be that she just doesn't know how to act properly around other dogs. Does she NEED to get along with other dogs to live in your home? Is it NECESSARY that she get along well with the other dog that lives in the home also? If the answer to these 2 questions is yes, then you chose the wrong breed.
Nope it doesnt bother me.. Its a preference thing.. I have no problems with it I know i can always crate rotate.. Was just kinda hoping there was something i could do but figured i could ask her and get better answers than someone who doesnt know the breed.


Dominance asserting is fine for dogs like GSDs and hounds and others were their origins aren't for dog fighting. A pit / pit type dog has origins which lie DEEP in dog fighting. With a pit when it goes, as said before, DA there's not much to do as a means of changing it... in fact I believe it gets worst with some dogs with age.

If you're getting advice from people whom have never owned a pit / pit type before then you should take it with a grain of salt cause you can't apply what's dominance in other breeds to a pit [at least not safety for all dogs concerned in my mind].
I fully understand. Thats why i asked here instead of just asking some person who knows dogs but not this particular breed.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:01 AM   #11
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Dogs don't fit into clear cut, black and white categories.

Your bitch may not like puppies. I know plenty of adult dogs that don't.

Your bitch may not get on with dogs on the other side of a barrier. Neither does my Saluki all the time, who is utterly dog friendly otherwise (except with puppies.. see above comment!)

There's no use trying to fit your dog into a label or standard of what people tell you is or isn't DA, dominance, etc. Learn YOUR dog, HER likes/dislikes, and manage her accordingly.
Actually i never really put to much thaught into her possibly not liking puppies..

But thanks alot. This was actually very helpful.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:01 AM   #12
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Dogs don't fit into clear cut, black and white categories.

Your bitch may not like puppies. I know plenty of adult dogs that don't.

Your bitch may not get on with dogs on the other side of a barrier. Neither does my Saluki all the time, who is utterly dog friendly otherwise (except with puppies.. see above comment!)

There's no use trying to fit your dog into a label or standard of what people tell you is or isn't DA, dominance, etc. Learn YOUR dog, HER likes/dislikes, and manage her accordingly.
Good post! I agree!
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:01 AM   #13
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okay thats why i get confused.. because people who have seen her and how she acts through a fence or baby gate have think she is DA other half says she wants to assert dominance especially over an overly excited dog. like we dont have the problem so much with dogs that she is introduced to its mostly puppies under like 4 months old that she reacts to..
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:01 AM   #14
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Dominance is irrelevant in this case if you ask me. Besides the potential for DA, there's also barrier frustration. A lot of dogs will react in a more assertive hostile manner when there's a barrier between them and the other animal. Under socialized dogs can also appear to be aholes when meeting new dogs because they're a bit clueless on boundaries.

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Old 10-01-2012, 09:01 AM   #15
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Pits are naturally dog aggresive. Not all, but most. If she is dog agressive all you can do is keep the other dogs away.. All the time! Sounds like she doeant want them there amd Im sorry but it probably wont change. Dont stress her out by trying to force it to work. Once a pit goes DA thats that, end of story. Its fine to have DA dog, just be careful to keep her seperate and never left alone with the other dogs.
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:01 AM   #16
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Nope it doesnt bother me.. Its a preference thing.. I have no problems with it I know i can always crate rotate.. Was just kinda hoping there was something i could do but figured i could ask her and get better answers than someone who doesnt know the breed.
That's good. Like I said, without seeing the behavior, it's really hard to pinpoint whether is dominance or aggression. Maybe it's a mixture of the 2. But forcing her to "meet" a dog that she's clearly showing signs of dislike toward will only make her dog aggression worse, IMO. The more scuffles Bentley got into, the more reactive he became toward other dogs. Eventually being reactive (aggressive) toward any and every dog he saw, no matter the distance. This was entirely my fault because I believed other people that told me that he just needed to meet more dogs and he'd eventually learn to get along.. Yea, life was different before I knew better. My mistake and now I deal with it every day.

I would not put her in any situations where she has the chance to harm another animal. This would include making your friends aware that she will not be "making nice" with their dogs. If it really is aggression, there's not much you can do except train her to ignore other dogs while she's focusing on you. Although, when left to her own devices to BE A DOG, she'll revert to her same aggression.
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:01 AM   #17
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That's good. Like I said, without seeing the behavior, it's really hard to pinpoint whether is dominance or aggression. Maybe it's a mixture of the 2. But forcing her to "meet" a dog that she's clearly showing signs of dislike toward will only make her dog aggression worse, IMO. The more scuffles Bentley got into, the more reactive he became toward other dogs. Eventually being reactive (aggressive) toward any and every dog he saw, no matter the distance. This was entirely my fault because I believed other people that told me that he just needed to meet more dogs and he'd eventually learn to get along.. Yea, life was different before I knew better. My mistake and now I deal with it every day.

I would not put her in any situations where she has the chance to harm another animal. This would include making your friends aware that she will not be "making nice" with their dogs. If it really is aggression, there's not much you can do except train her to ignore other dogs while she's focusing on you. Although, when left to her own devices to BE A DOG, she'll revert to her same aggression.
nope only dog we allow her to be with is ruckus.. and only time she meets dogs is if they come up to the fence.. or like today when she saw my wife's dog through the baby gate.. when friends want her to meet their dogs i claim she is both dominant and DA since i don't know which so i don't allow it to happen.. and then if we meet a strange dog on our walk i do what needs to be done too keep them apart including carrying a golf club with the head removed to smack another dog if need be
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:01 AM   #18
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Actually i never really put to much thaught into her possibly not liking puppies..

But thanks alot. This was actually very helpful.


You're welcome

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Old 10-02-2012, 09:01 AM   #19
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It's hard to say if it's dominance or aggression without seeing it happen. It could also be that she just doesn't know how to act properly around other dogs. Does she NEED to get along with other dogs to live in your home? Is it NECESSARY that she get along well with the other dog that lives in the home also? If the answer to these 2 questions is yes, then you chose the wrong breed.
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