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Old 05-04-2012, 02:13 AM   #1
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Default Fleas = tapeworms? Say whaaaat?
So I just read on the FB page that a dog with fleas usually has tape worms? Becauae if they accidentally eat a flea theyll get a tape worm? you guys know I live in Mexico and Sam usually gets a flea or two daily.. EVERY dog here gets them aallll the time. I just have a hard time believing this is true.. What have you guys heard?
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:30 AM   #2
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Some kinds of tapeworms can come from fleas, yes. But just because your dog has a flea, or fleas doesn't mean that he 100% has a tapeworm too. Look at his scat. If it looks like it has grains of rice in it, especially wiggly grains of rice, then that is a sign of tapeworms. I used to have a link for tapes, let me see if I can find it and put it up.

---------- Post added at 07:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:27 PM ----------

Found one.

http://www.pet-informed-veterinary-a...l#flea-diagram

These are pretty common tapeworms, I think there are several strains.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:30 AM   #3
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That would be great! Ill keep an eye on her puppy poop lol
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:31 AM   #4
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So I just read on the FB page that a dog with fleas usually has tape worms? Becauae if they accidentally eat a flea theyll get a tape worm? you guys know I live in Mexico and Sam usually gets a flea or two daily.. EVERY dog here gets them aallll the time. I just have a hard time believing this is true.. What have you guys heard?
Well I'm the one that posted it and if you don't believe it's true, honestly I could give 2 shits. Dogs ingesting fleas causes tape worms. It's a simple fact that any experienced dog owner should know. Try doing a little research since you have this amazing thing called the internet LOL.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:44 AM   #5
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Wow boogie, I always liked you until right now lol. I didnt know who "Brian" was but now that I can match "Brian" to boogieman Im more likely to believe you. And hellooo.. Attitude much? What do you think Im doing.. Getting a second opinion off of a reliable forum isnt doing research??
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:52 AM   #6
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LOL I'm no different now than I ever was. Seriously it's 100% fact. I wouldn't bullshit you.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:52 AM   #7
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Yes, he is right.

"Larval fleas are generally hatching in this vicinity and these larvae are busy grazing on organic debris and flea dirt (the black specks of digested blood shed by adult fleas to nourish their larvae). The flea larvae do not pay close attention to what they eat and innocently consume tapeworm eggs.

As the larval flea progresses in its development, the tapeworm inside it is also progressing in development. By the time the flea is an adult, the tapeworm is ready to infect a dog or cat. The young tapeworm is only infectious to its mammal host at this stage of development. The flea goes about its usual business, namely sucking its host’s blood, when to its horror it is licked away by the host and swallowed.


Inside the host’s stomach, the flea’s body is digested and the young tapeworm is released. It finds a nice spot to attach and the life cycle begins again. It takes 3 weeks from the time the flea is swallowed to the time tapeworm segments appear on the pet’s rear end or stool.


Controlling fleas is essential to prevent recurring infections with this species of tapeworm."

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Con...&S=0&C=0&A=562
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:59 AM   #8
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Thanks everybody. Brian its not that I didnt believe you and think you were full of shit, I just thought it would be foolish to just blindly believe one random FB source without researching and getting a second opinion. And now Im a believer and no, im not an experienced dog owner.. Sams only 7 months.. But after spending 2 of those months here on PBC I know SO much more about dogs and the APBT especially. Damn I love this website.. I can school all my friends on pit bulls now lol!
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:32 AM   #9
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I just want to add that it takes a pretty heavy worm load before they start shedding tapeworm segments. Thats why most vets do a fecal screening at the yearly exam, to determine whether the dog needs wormed for specific things.
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:27 AM   #10
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Thanks everybody. Brian its not that I didnt believe you and think you were full of shit, I just thought it would be foolish to just blindly believe one random FB source without researching and getting a second opinion. And now Im a believer and no, im not an experienced dog owner.. Sams only 7 months.. But after spending 2 of those months here on PBC I know SO much more about dogs and the APBT especially. Damn I love this website.. I can school all my friends on pit bulls now lol!
It's all good. It's just that you post that "I just have a hard time believing this is true" So if you have no knowledge, why is it so hard to believe? lol So yes it does appear you think the info was BS. It also isn't if the dog "accidently" ingests a flea. If the dog has fleas it is DEFINITELY going to ingest some of them. The fleas bite, it hurts the dog, the dog bites at the flea spot to kill it, which equals ingestion.

Monkey is absolutely correct also. If you're seeing it in the poo, it has them bad! Honestly you just need to get some wormer right now and worm the dog for tapes. I would bet for sure the dog has them. If not it's sure not going to hurt the dog and the only way to know is to pay a vet to do a fecal. Worming is cheaper and safe. It's not going to cost you a fortune. You need to get some Droncit or any wormer with praziquantel in it. Praz is the active ingredient in Droncit which is a named brand wormer. Others will prbly be cheaper, just make sure the active ingredient is PRAZIQUANTEL. Then follow the directions on the bottle.

You also need to have the dog on flea prevention all the time if fleas are that prominent there. It's very unhealthy for them to be constantly exposed to flea bites. Frontline is what I use. Stay away from garbage like Hartz or the cheap ass shit from wal mart. It's cheap for a reason. It's garbage and it's horrible for your dog.
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:30 AM   #11
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:58 AM   #12
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Most of the time tapeworms do not show up on a stool sample. Stool samples tested at the vet are done by flotation, looking for the eggs in the stool as they float to the top of a sugar or salt solution.

Tapeworms do not shed eggs, they shed proglottids, which are the segments you are seeing in the stool. These segments are shed intermittently and usually not seen on fecal exam.

Any pet that has fleas should be assumed to have tapeworms and dewormed accordingly.
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:04 AM   #13
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I don't know how much your dog weighs but I'd assume it would fall into the 3 tablet range.

Droncit: Pet Wormer for Dogs Cats - 1800PetMeds

^^^^Droncit would cost you $24 Notice the active ingredient (praziquantel) and how much it contains....34mg


Canine Tape Worm Tabs Trade Winds (Pet Supplies - Wormers)

^^^^^Then you go to a wormer that isn't the name brand. Notice same active ingredient (praz) and same amount of med per tablet 34mg 3 tablets would cost you $6.50 You do have to buy 6 tablets which is $12.95 So 6 of these for $12.85 vs Droncit which would cost $24 for 3 tablets.

If you just compare labels and active ingredients you can always find a better deal than the name brand.
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:12 AM   #14
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Just because a dog has fleas doesnt mean they r GOIMG to have worms but there is a chance of them eating the fleas and that's what causes it
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:36 AM   #15
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Boogie is right, it's very common for dogs with fleas to have tapeworms and yes they are caused by the dog eating a flea. Dogs with fleas chew their skin in an attempt to relieve the itching so it's easy for them to ingest a flea.
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:11 PM   #16
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Most of the time tapeworms do not show up on a stool sample. Stool samples tested at the vet are done by flotation, looking for the eggs in the stool as they float to the top of a sugar or salt solution.

Tapeworms do not shed eggs, they shed proglottids, which are the segments you are seeing in the stool. These segments are shed intermittently and usually not seen on fecal exam.

Any pet that has fleas should be assumed to have tapeworms and dewormed accordingly.
Yea, that's what directs are for.
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:55 PM   #17
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Well when I get paid on the 15th we're taking Sam to the vet for another shot so I'll ask him about what kind of anti flea products are available down here and see how much a tape worm de-worming would be... ugh. we still owe the damn vet money from when Sam got parvo a few months ago... Shes lucky I love her cuz this dog is running me BROKE! lol
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:19 PM   #18
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IF you know how to dose it and not kill your dogs you can use Equimax Ivermectin paste. I use it on all of my dogs once a month. It has Ivermectin and Praziquantel. Praziquantel kills tapeworms. Ivermectin prevents heartworms. It comes labeled for horses so you have to figure out how much to give, but it doesn't take much, but if you use it be very careful on how much you give because you can easily kill your dog from overdose.
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