[HedgeYourBets]

This is my first post and im sure its in the wrong location. I just wanted to say hey and show off my dog. His name is achilles and hes 1 year and 2 months old. He has papers and all but I dont really plan on breeding him just like him for the company He's the smartest dog i have seen for being only a year old. I never taught him to sit properly he just kinda figured it out on his own, and i taught him how to shake in under an hour. Hes a bit of a handful sometimes but for the most part we get along great. Hes never had any formal training by me other than a little leash work but we are together so much I think he picks up on my intentions very well. He has a problem jumping and gets a little to much energy in the house for his size but i have to remind myself hes still a pup. Just a very large one.
My favorite part of him is he is completely non DA....thus far. I wanted to ask if this will change with age? Right now i can bring him over to any other dogs house or bring any over and he will play only as ruff as they do. I have never seen him growl or bark at any dog or person. I dont see this changing but I am new to owning a pitbull and i dont know what to expect with ageing. I have been working more lately and have been leaving him in my fenced in yard while at work. I have watched him while hes out there and if people walk by he runs to the fence to greet them and shows no agression. I hope he stays this way but he is a monster already and i'm praying he stays a gentle giant. I dont even know his weight at the moment but am sure hes pushing 80Lb's
The first pick is the first day I got him, 2nd Pick is prolly around 9 months, and the last is when he hit a year

[Jourgenz]

Not breeding him is the best thing you can do since nobody here likes a backyard breeder breeding for peds or looks. On that note, I'd like to see the ped if possible since it's pretty clear he's not a pbt. For your question about DA read the stickies.

[Falik]

He's a very bully looking boy and a big one at that! There are people on here that can help you read peds and give you information on shows and competitions if you are interested in that sort of thing

For your question about DA - this is something that bully breeds are prone to. It can show up at any time, though it seems most people start having issues between 6months and 2years. Dogs in general can start having issues around maturity. No one can tell you if your particular dog will have an issue. There have been many people pass through here that did not expect their dog to have a problem with other dogs and they end up unpleasantly surprised. The best you can do is be very vigilant.
If your dog ever has a bad experience with other dogs, it could contribute to future DA (this goes for any breed of dog). It could cause him to 1) be fear aggressive towards other dogs or 2) realize how much he enjoys a good fight and look for opportunities to do so in the future. This is why it is very important that you make any interactions he has with other dogs positive ones.

[Ferkilort]

Ignore the jackwads that want to insult your dog and tell you what it is and isn't. To be safe, just call your dog a bulldog, that way you won't have the APBT owners jumping your case. Of course your dog is a pit bull, it just isn't an American Pit Bull Terrier, but call it a bulldog to keep yourself out of the sights of people that want to fight.

Great looking dog. Who gives a damn what "[everybody] here likes." The people on this forum are not authorities on bulldogs.

[2puO4Rhf]

He's a pretty boy! I don't blame you for being proud of him. He definitely has more of an AmBully look to him than APBT.

While he gets along with dogs now, that could change as he reaches sexual maturity around 2-3 yrs old. Just be aware and ready to deal with it if it happens. My boy was fine with other dogs until he was just about 3yrs old. Now he's dog selective and tends to get irritated with other dogs pretty quickly. I've taken to not letting him play with other dogs because of this - all it would take is a couple seconds and he'd start a fight. It's just not worth it and he's perfectly happy being my buddy.

I'd stop leaving him in the yard alone though. That's just asking for trouble as he could dig out or jump the fence pretty easily if he wanted to do so. If you need to leave him outside please contain him in a covered kennel run or on a chainspot so that he stays safe and in the yard.

[6M8PJigS]

^Another reason not to leave him outside all day: I don't know about your area, but where I live(Alabama/Mississippi), people will steal anything that looks like a pitbull right out of your backyard. Especially if your dog is so friendly. So just be careful of that. People are mean.

But he's so handsome! I might want to steal him too!

Mine was a jumper too. No amount of kneeing or ignoring or time-outing would stop him. But a spray bottle worked for us. And he's much better now. So good luck!

[Savviioor]

Ignore the jackwads that want to insult your dog and tell you what it is and isn't. To be safe, just call your dog a bulldog, that way you won't have the APBT owners jumping your case. Of course your dog is a pit bull, it just isn't an American Pit Bull Terrier, but call it a bulldog to keep yourself out of the sights of people that want to fight.

Great looking dog. Who gives a damn what "[everybody] here likes." The people on this forum are not authorities on bulldogs.

And don't listen to this person since they've obviously got their panties in a wad from being schooled by many of the people here.

[UHlVExs7]

While he gets along with dogs now, that could change as he reaches sexual maturity around 2-3 yrs old. Just be aware and ready to deal with it if it happens. My boy was fine with other dogs until he was just about 3yrs old. Now he's dog selective and tends to get irritated with other dogs pretty quickly. I've taken to not letting him play with other dogs because of this - all it would take is a couple seconds and he'd start a fight. It's just not worth it and he's perfectly happy being my buddy.

I'd stop leaving him in the yard alone though. That's just asking for trouble as he could dig out or jump the fence pretty easily if he wanted to do so. If you need to leave him outside please contain him in a covered kennel run or on a chainspot so that he stays safe and in the yard.

This.

[HedgeYourBets]

Thanks for the advice and compliments. I have a run for him but he gets tangled up in it cause hes not the brightest dog, I will prolly try and come up with another plan since the last thing i want is scaring the crap out of a neighbor even though the worst he would do would knock you down and lick you.
And yeah I know all about the bully breed and the APBT battle going on. The APBT is a man made dog and not 1 is made the same, i dont really know how you can argue whats pure bread and whats not. And outside of educated pitbull forum online i think anyone would laugh if i tried to tell them my dog was a bull dog and not a pitbull. I know a APBT is suppose to be around 35-40lbs. I am educated just not concerned or swayed enough to call my dog something else. I honestly have no idea where i put his papers at the moment since i wasnt planning on breeding him i wasnt paying that much attention. Only thing i was concerned about was what his parents looked like and they were as beautiful as he is so i was happy. I will search around a little later because you have peaked my interest in knowing his pedigree now and let you know what they say.

[Savviioor]

Just to say, the AmBully is man made too. The only pit bull is the American Pit Bull Terrier. If its not an APBT, just better call it a Bully or a mix. No reason to call your dog what it's not. Not trying to be rude, but that's just how it is. This dog breed doesn't need anymore misinformation spread around.

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He is a pretty dog though.

[Ferkilort]

As long as it isn't white and doesn't have blue eyes, you can certainly call it a pit. Those are major faults, signs of a cur. The extra weight he carries is just a minor fault.

[Savviioor]

There is only ONE "pit bull". That's the American Pit Bull Terrier.

[Nigeopire]

As long as it isn't white and doesn't have blue eyes, you can certainly call it a pit. Those are major faults, signs of a cur. The extra weight he carries is just a minor fault.

This is some of the dumbest shit I've read to date...

[Ferkilort]

Major fault means cur. Cur means isn't a pit bull. Blue eyes = major fault. Dog with blue eyes is a cur, therefore isn't a pit bull.

http://www.apbtconformation.com/faultsdq.htm

[Zebrabitch]

No...major fault just means major fault. Cur can mean either mixed bred dog or dog that fails to do the job it was bred for (in the case of an APBT, "cur" is often used to describe a dog that refuses to fight, or quits a fight.)

A pure bred dog can indeed have major disqualifying faults and still be a purebred dog. take merle Great danes or white boxers for example. Both colors that would be disqualified in the ring, but those dogs are still purebred.

Disqualifying faults are not disqualifying faults because they indicate a lack of purebred status, but because those faults would hinder a dog from doing it's intended job, or just doesn't fit the ideal for the breed.

Blue eyes in a white dog is a disqualifying fault because they indicate the potential for deafness, and should not be reproduced, NOT because it indicates the dog is mixed breed.

[Ferkilort]

Yes, a cur dog is a half breed, but it is also a pure bred pit that turns or has a kink in its tail or merle coat or an under-bite... anything that makes it something other than a pit. Being too big doesn't make a pit a cur. Blue eyes and a white coat certainly does. It's semi-albino. Now way that can be considered a pit. I don't care what some all-for-the-money kennel club says. It's a cur.

[WaydayTew]

ADBA states that the only disqualifying colors are merle and albino.

[Nigeopire]

Yes, a cur dog is a half breed, but it is also a pure bred pit that turns or has a kink in its tail or merle coat or an under-bite... anything that makes it something other than a pit. Being too big doesn't make a pit a cur. Blue eyes and a white coat certainly does. It's semi-albino. Now way that can be considered a pit. I don't care what some all-for-the-money kennel club says. It's a cur.

So the physical characteristics you pick make the dog less than pure,but one of the most obvious-size is irrelevant ? C'mon man,be serious.You can't really believe the shit you're spewing.

[WaydayTew]

So the physical characteristics you pick make the dog less than pure,but one of the most obvious-size is irrelevant ? C'mon man,be serious.You can't really believe the shit you're spewing.

He's said he doesn't own pit bulls, then gets butt hurt when any dog that looks like his dogs isn't called a pit bull.

[Ferkilort]

No, that's not what I said. I said by YOUR standards, I probably don't have pit bulls. I said they are too big. I said they are bulldogs because a pit bull -- pure UKC standard pits -- simply isn't big enough to bring down 100+ pound hogs. Then you got butt hurt because I said that while my dogs have minor faults, they're probably closer in disposition and capacity to a traditional pit bull than a registered APBT that is bred for color. Then you really got upset because your dog is an example of that. Then... and we're right back to where we were when the last thread got closed down... all that because people want to jump some guy about a dog he is proud of because, "ONLY APBT ARE REAL PIT BULLS!!!"

Relax! Who cares if EVERYONE in here says, "I own a pit bull!" Why does that bother you people so much?!!!