[pMJWFoAWD]

These same KCSPCA bastards came by my place one day this past July after a neighbor complained falsely complained that one of my dogs was loose (it was another neighbor's dog that looks a bit like my Buster from some angles).

I have two old vans that I used to drive and each dog was leashed to its own van, where they have dug out their areas beneath the vans to use for shade during the summer months.

I'd been paid a visit several weeks earlier by an Officer Laise of this KCSPCA and told that I should get them dog houses - my reply was that certainly they would have them before the weather gets cold. I also gave him my Cell phone number and asked that if they ever have any questions or problems with either of my dogs that they call me, although I think there is some question of jurisdiction because the MD/DE state line runs through my property and the area where I keep the dogs is unquestionably on the MD side of the line.

My dogs are never outside overnight or in bad weather - I ride a motorcycle daily (weather permitting) and while I am out riding, they stay by their vans.

A few weeks later, on a hot, sunny day, Sgt. Hulse of this same KCSPCA
came by my property, ignored the computer entry with my phone number, and seized my two healthy pits, all because I had not yet gotten dog houses for them.

I had been offered two houses by the breeder that I got Buster from - a genuinely great guy that some of you may know named Tom Cahall. But he is a long haul truck driver and I was waiting until he was home to get these houses from him. Had Sgt. Hulse called me or come by when I was home, I could have explained this to him, but no, he took my dogs for this flimsy nonsense (as if a dog would ever want to go in a dog house in July and wouldn't prefer to lie beneath a van where the air circulates and they can dig in the dirt for the cool ground below).

Knowing the KCSPCA's reputation, I feared that they might euthanize my dogs during the two days that they had them, and I slept very little. And yes, I was p*ssed.

To make a long story short, when I went to get my dogs, this arrogant pr*ck Hulse not only charged me $50 for the 'boarding', he wrote me a ticket for $182 for not having dog houses ($91 per dog).

Trial on this ticket - a jury trial - will be held a week from today in the Court of Common Pleas in Dover, Delaware!

Any assistance on this matter, especially legal assistance, would be greatly appreciated since I am representing myself.

[gugqgbyzlp]

Welcome.

[emupsMaispubs]

Hello and welcome!

That is awful.

Please post the story up in the news section:
Pit Bull News - Pit Bull Chat Forum

This part of the forum is for introductions, so the story may be missed by some of the members if only left in the intro.

[formobilagsw]

These same KCSPCA bastards came by my place one day this past July after a neighbor complained falsely complained that one of my dogs was loose (it was another neighbor's dog that looks a bit like my Buster from some angles).

I have two old vans that I used to drive and each dog was leashed to its own van, where they have dug out their areas beneath the vans to use for shade during the summer months.

I'd been paid a visit several weeks earlier by an Officer Laise of this KCSPCA and told that I should get them dog houses - my reply was that certainly they would have them before the weather gets cold. I also gave him my Cell phone number and asked that if they ever have any questions or problems with either of my dogs that they call me, although I think there is some question of jurisdiction because the MD/DE state line runs through my property and the area where I keep the dogs is unquestionably on the MD side of the line.

My dogs are never outside overnight or in bad weather - I ride a motorcycle daily (weather permitting) and while I am out riding, they stay by their vans.

A few weeks later, on a hot, sunny day, Sgt. Hulse of this same KCSPCA
came by my property, ignored the computer entry with my phone number, and seized my two healthy pits, all because I had not yet gotten dog houses for them.

I had been offered two houses by the breeder that I got Buster from - a genuinely great guy that some of you may know named Tom Cahall. But he is a long haul truck driver and I was waiting until he was home to get these houses from him. Had Sgt. Hulse called me or come by when I was home, I could have explained this to him, but no, he took my dogs for this flimsy nonsense (as if a dog would ever want to go in a dog house in July and wouldn't prefer to lie beneath a van where the air circulates and they can dig in the dirt for the cool ground below).

Knowing the KCSPCA's reputation, I feared that they might euthanize my dogs during the two days that they had them, and I slept very little. And yes, I was p*ssed.

To make a long story short, when I went to get my dogs, this arrogant pr*ck Hulse not only charged me $50 for the 'boarding', he wrote me a ticket for $182 for not having dog houses ($91 per dog).

Trial on this ticket - a jury trial - will be held a week from today in the Court of Common Pleas in Dover, Delaware!

Any assistance on this matter, especially legal assistance, would be greatly appreciated since I am representing myself.

Hello and welcome. I read your story here, and wanted to comment on it a bit. First off, it may be a good idea to make a post in the General Dog Discussions, or elsewhere on the forum, as that way you will get more responses.

Next, I do know that where I live, despite what the weather is, if your dogs are outside, you must have shelter available for them at all times. Tying them to the van is not sufficient. I know that the Animal Control can come give you a warning if you don't have one, then they will come back, can be in a day, can be in a week, and you had better have a house by then, or they will take your dogs. Again, the time of the year or weather does not matter in those situations. I'm sorry about your situation, but I'm sure they have a similar law there.

[pMJWFoAWD]

As far as your comment about the vans being insufficient shelter - this is the opinion of someone who has not seen the areas they have dugout beneath the vans. I have photos but they will first be used as evidence in court.

I had been working on getting dog houses since before they took them, and the KCSPCA had my cel phone # in their records. Had they called me, they would've learned that I was waiting for the breeder from whom I acquired Buster to return - he's a long haul trucker. But they ignored this and refused to call to discuss this - instead these morons decided to simply take the dogs (and there is no evidence that they would have taken any dogs in such a situation had they been any other breed).

I still fail to see what was the urgency for them to take them, it's not as though the dogs were being in any way abused or neglected.

I got two dog houses the day after they were taken (the breeder was still out of town, I had to bother his wife and son-in-law for this so to get my dogs back). Although I have had these houses for two months, both dogs have refused to go into these houses even when their dinner is placed inside - Allie drags the plate out of the house before she'll eat it and Buster refuses to go near his food so long as it is inside the dog house. They prefer their respective spots beneath the vans.

Besides, no dog that I've ever known will go in a dog house in July or August anyway. It's hot and the air doesn't circulate. So this was simply a heavy-handed and unnecessary show of authority by some small-minded people who exercise such authority for no reason whatsoever than because they feel that they can.

I have revealed as much here as I am willing to prior to the trial this coming Monday. When more is to come, I will post it elsewhere on this site.

[mirvokrug]

I live in Delaware and I'm active in a No-Kill Sanctuary group. I was horrified by this story of the SPCA killing a lost pit bull even though the owner had called to pick her up. This was shown on July 8, s008 in a local segment on Good Morning America. The Kent County SPCA is a high-kill facility and they kill pit bulls automatically. If you live in Delaware, please write your newspaper and state legislators to protest this. Also, please pass this story on to your fellow pit bull lovers and also to any dog lover you know. The SPCA kills hundreds of dogs in tiny Delaware every year. Pit bulls never have a chance.

http://www.wmdt.com/news-archive.aspx?item=8206
Fatal Error - Latest News
by - Ryan Hughes
CAMDEN, Del. - It's a situation the Kent County SPCA has never experienced before.
A family is heartbroken after their dog was mistakenly put to sleep
"Eighteen months in the family and an 18-month little girl now 3-years-old pulling on its ears and riding her," said Britainie Dill, who is the owner's stepmother. "It's sad and Taija was a best friend to a lot of people."
The owners say the dog got loose after its chain slipped over the stake it was attached to.
That's when someone found it and called the SPCA.
"She had received a phone call after SPCA hours that the dog had been found and brought in," said Dill. "She had asked about picking the dog up the next afternoon."
"That person said sure we can hold onto it for you, but that didn't get relayed, didn't get put on the paperwork," said Murrey Goldthwaite, the Executive Director for the Kent County SPCA.
When the owner arrived at the SPCA the next day they told her the dog was euthanized.
The Executive Director says officers read the forms wrong and it was the finder who signed over the dog not the owner.
He admits mistakes were made.
"Not following the proper procedure of our protocol of signing if the animal should be euthanized or not was not followed, and the animal lost its life," said Goldthwaite.
But the owners are especially angry Taija was put down so quickly.
"Taija was a Pitbull, that's one strike against her," said Goldthwaite.
The director says the shelter is overcrowded and they had no room for her.
"Theres some anger there because animals aren't just animals they need a chance as well and overbooking is not an excuse," said Dill.
The SPCA has apologized repeatedly to the family, and say they will use better communication in the future to make sure an inciden

[N9NACzws]

Oh wow, that's terrible!!

[Automobill]

How sad!

[avavavava]

I think I heard about this. So very sad and unfair.

[artkolkovk]

When our central air conditioner broke this past Memorial Day weekend (90 degrees +), both my dogs stayed cool by digging little trenches for themselves underneath our raised deck. They were not the least bit interested in coming inside so we made sure they had food and water and I checked on them constantly throughout each day. Not once did I see them panting. They just took it easy in their dugouts, coming out occasionally to do their business. Our yard is fenced so they didn't need to be on a tie out. It's one thing to leave a dog outside in the heat without any shade or shelter for hours on end. Not everyone has central a/c. I can attest to the fact that a "dog house", unless it came with A/C would be of no use in keeping a pooch cool. I can also attest to the fact that in this state, animal control officers are allowed to do as they please. They thoroughly enjoy flaunting their little powers. If your dog gets loose in De - watch out. You are at their mercy.

[addyta.org]

Hello and welcome to Pit Bull Chat!
I hope you'll stay and become an active part of our community.

I am sorry for the dog. Poor thing.

Here at PBC we stride to encourage responsible ownership through education and enlightenment. We know that knowledge and hard facts are our best weapons in the fight against Breed Specific Legislation and the horribly misconstrued reputation that these dogs have come to face. Our primary goal is to provide education to the public about the nature of the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) and related breeds such as the American Staffordshire Terrier (AST) Staffordshire Bull Terrier (SBT) and American Bully, all of which are often referred to as Pit Bulls. With a wide range of sizes and colors, and an ever-increasing mixed-breed population, the pit bull presents a challenge for those who would define it. These days, it seems that everyone knows what a "pit bull" is and that "they" are dangerous. This ambiguous status has led to vague definitions of the pit bull in breed-banning ordinances, and the label "pit bull" has been applied generically to any dog that appears dangerous. In fact, over eighty percent of Americans, when faced with pictures of the American Pit Bull Terrier and related breeds, fail to correctly identify the APBT. Can you spot the true Pit Bull? Click here to find out.

We are dedicated to the preservation of the Pit Bull in it's modern occupation as a loyal companion and outstanding athlete. At PBC we are opposed to all forms of animal cruelty and do not condone any sort of illegal activities, we chose to embrace the history of the Pit Bull and we value its qualities of courage, strength and tenacity as the very essence of this breed. Despite the general reputation of fighting dogs, it is the Pit Bulls history as such that has made it such a fine companion animal. Handled extensively by humans who regularly separated fighting dogs in the pit, Pit Bulls became uniquely human-friendly. A dog who would injure a human without human error or provocation was removed from breeding stock. That is why the true Pit Bull is uniquely responsive to humans and will go to amazing lengths to please its owner, allowing them to excel as working dogs regardless of the task given to do. However, it is obvious that guardian work is a job they are NOT suited for! To learn more about the history of the Pit Bull, please visit the History section of the forum.

We cannot stress enough that ownership of this fine breed is not for everyone. It is very important for an owner to recognize that because of it's history, the Pit Bull has a genetic predisposition to Dog Aggression (DA) such as the Greyhounds genetic abilities to run, the Labrador to retrieve, and so on. This does not necessarily mean that every Pit Bull dog will be DA, but that it is always a possibility for every Pit Bull dog.

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[newpiknicker]

I will first apoligize for my ranting . I had just found out my baby had been killed . She wasnt outside if You can read through my mess of tears hun i found a trail of dog food from my front door to the end of my porch where it looked to me she had been lured out . I have had some time now to cry and rant but i still think we as responsiable loving owners should stand up for our dogs !!! Hun this could happen to You and Your babv.

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And it is sad You are more concerned with my spelling and punctuation then the fact pits are put to death because they are pits . With no regard to the family's they hurt rip apart.

[Klissineopar]

I'm pretty sure it couldn't happen to me or my babies because I put them in the house, in their crates and then lock the door before I leave.

If your dog was in your house and the door was opened by the AC/police officer without a warrant or probable cause so they could lure your dog out I would think you would have pressed trespassing and Breaking and Entering charges along with contacting lawyers until you found one willing to sue.

[newpiknicker]

1st Its my word against theirs. sure they will admit wrong doing to an officer.
2nd yes i am getting a lawyer .
3rd My dog wasnt crated, I think crates are mean would You like to be in a crate ?
she was my baby she slept in my bed.
She sat and watched tv with me on the couch .
she laid beside me when i was sick and wouldnt leave my side until i was better .
She was Always ready with a wagging tail and hug she loved to hug .
Can I ask do You breed ? is Your dog family or a commodity?
I cant get Your aggression towards me if Your dog is family .
If Your dog was i think You would understand and not be attacking me.

For those who do care and love their babies few facts i have read here about Kent County SPCA
No-Kill Delaware
Do You realize Kent County Spca in the words of the director is a HIGH KILL FACILITY ?
With 0 tolerance to pitbulls ?
I am not alone and yes it it could be You and Your dog check the link above to read about more folks like me .

[Klissineopar]

I'd rather be crated safely in a locked house with a responsible owner than taken to a shelter and euthanized.

I find your story suspicious. I highly doubt AC would confiscate an inside dog just because the owner had no electricity. Stands to reason that they wouldn't consider that inadequate housing since many dogs live their lives outside without benefit of electricity in their dog houses. I honestly suspect there was more to the story such as the dog was not properly licensed and vaccinated or properly contained and perhaps neighbors complained.

Regardless, I am not arguing the issue since I have made my opinion known and you are obviously so grief stricken you still rant like a crazy person with a serious lack of respect for punctuation, sentence structure or the English language.

Good luck to you.

[newpiknicker]

i want a jUSTICE they killed my baby on the 21st said was a mistake should have never happened i a,m up at 3am because my heart is broke my life is empty my baby is gone because a SPCA worker did not document my call. Oh we are sorry it was a mistake shouldnt have happened ,
sorry my ass this was my baby and this wasnt the 1st time this is the 4th time iam told this has happened this year with PITS I want JUstice for my ISIS and NO ONE TO HURT LIKE ME AND MY FAMILY ARE !!!!! I am asking anyone and everyone to protest with me the Camden Spca for killing our babys !!!!!!!!!!!!

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You are lucky my baby was killed and i want a lawyer i want Justice the Spca is out of control power tripping Pit bull Nazis they are the true bullys .I say we need a lawyer who will take all our cases as a class action against the Kent COunty Spca . call for all pit lovers to protest with me .

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we need to put a stop to this abuse of power and senseless killing of our babys . when i have slept and can stop crying i will post my story or perhaps you will read about in the newspapers because that is my next stop tomorrow .

[newpiknicker]

last month due to me not getting paid for work i did my electric was shut off . i sent my family away and i stayed in my home with my dogs while i worked to restore our electric. the Spca came to visit me saying it was inadquete housing to be living in my home with me with no electric not once did they check for food or water ect. i was given 24hrs to rehome my dogs . i left my home to go to the store as the Spca worker left my yard only to return 20minutes later to find my dog gone and a trail of dog food from the front door to the driveway. Aprox 1hr later her comes the Spca worker again Your dog was loose so we took her it will cost blah blah blah . this was a sunday . on tuesday i called to get my dog again i am told i was being charged with inadequacy housing and would have to go to court couldnt see me dog take her a blanket nothing . 2wks heard nothing i call again and am told it will take months to get a court date,no i cant see her take her a blanket nothing. a wk later enough is enough i want to see my baby i want her home i want answers . i got spca only to be told there was a mix up and she was put down .!!!!!! PUT DOWN!!!!!!! my baby my heart is dead do to the workers not documenting me calling , the receptionist remembers me calling but the officer doesnt .oh and get this is NOTHING NOTHING in the recordss about inadequact house just dog at large !!!!!!!!! this is the 4th senseless killing do to Officer error in so many months . I am asking everyone who loves thier dogs to protest dont support the SPCA KENT COUNTY SPCA IS A HIGH KILL CENTER THEY ARE INHUMANE !!!!!! I AM ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO STAND UP WITH ME AND STOP THESE DOG NAZIS FROM KILLING AGAIN . PICKET THE NEXT RABIES TAGS CLINIC !!!!!!!!! START A CLASS ACTION ANY LAWYERS OUT THERE WILLING TO HELP US ???????? I WANT JUSTICE FOR MY ISIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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apoligizes is what we get for them killing our family members i cant stop crying i havent slept my heart is sick . my children are almost grown and my isis was my baby . i cant have anymore children do to cancer they killed my baby . this has to stop.

[addyta.org]

I moved this thread here as it seemed like a more appropriate section, but the OP hasn't been on in about a year (I just realized) so someone should probably just delete it.

[Gedominew]

That is absolutely awful. That poor family I can't imagine what they are going through

[Klissineopar]

I tried to read Dawn's story and I tried to care, but it comes across as the ranting of lunatic who has issues with things like punctuation, spelling, grammar, the caps lock/shift key, common sense and dog ownership. As in, if AC has just been to your house and threatened to take your dog maybe it would have been a good idea to put your dog inside before you leave for the store...