[encunnibriG]

To this date my dog has showed no signs of DA a point my fiance points out all the time. I confronted him about why he keeps saying this and he tells me in a years time he wants a second dog..a husky. I love him and want to give him that chance but in a years time Slayer will no longer be a puppy and I dont want to have a huge problem on my hands.
My current game plan is to introduce them on leash outside the home a few times before we permanantly take home a husky, maybe walk them together and have some supervised play if the breeder allows it.
Is this a terrible idea, I am willing to invest in a break stick and crate and rotate if need be but I want solid advice on introducing the two..I wont be getting one for a year but it helps to have things planned ahead of time.

P.S. i do know NEVER to leave them unattended.

[KuznehikVasaN]

Sounds to me like your fiance believes your dog will never show any signs of DA. Remind him that it can show up at any time. There is no strict timeline. It is not as if the dog knows that if he doesn't become DA by 2 years of age he has lost his chance so he can't 'choose' to be DA after that. If you think you can handle a mult-dog home, go ahead. Best of luck. Just remind keep reminding your fiance everytime he mentions that Slayer isn't DA yet, what will be required of you both if he ever turns and has a fight with your future husky. If you can't keep both, which dog will go? Your fiance's husky or Slayer? Don't know if that has even been discussed.

I have been tempted to get another dog. A friend of mine was offering me a grandson of http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...e&dog_id=89215 from a future breeding he has been planning. I so want one of his pups, but I keep changing my mind when I imagine how a day would look with two apbts (a mutt and a game bred dog) would look.

[encunnibriG]

Thanks, I do keep telling him that these things can change. Also i laid down the law, if we cant keep both we took on our Slayer first. She is a sweetheart and I wont give her up just cause he NEEDS a husky. He agreed a bit hesitantly but I think that part is already handled. I personally have noticed she likes male dogs more then females even at this age..maybe i should put the stipulation it should be a male?

[KuznehikVasaN]

Dogs of the same sex are more likely to fight. So it is good that you have noticed her preference for dogs of the opposite sex.

[Switiespils]

As long as you are both aware of the potential for, and willing to, crate and rotate if they end up not getting along, then by all means go ahead and get another dog. If you KNOW you don't want to live like that, if you KNOW you would feel differently about her (want to get rid of her, or put her down, or get rid of the other dog) if she attacks, hurts, or even kills the other dog, then no. You shouldn't get another dog.

[PharmaDrMan]

For your fiance: we had an opposite sex pair of dogs for well over a year. When the (neutered) male turned on, all he%$ broke loose, and we had to keep the pair separated for the rest of their lives together (the female died last year from cancer).

So, I'd really think about it ...

[encunnibriG]

As long as you are both aware of the potential for, and willing to, crate and rotate if they end up not getting along, then by all means go ahead and get another dog. If you KNOW you don't want to live like that, if you KNOW you would feel differently about her (want to get rid of her, or put her down, or get rid of the other dog) if she attacks, hurts, or even kills the other dog, then no. You shouldn't get another dog.

I wouldnt ever see slayer different if she wasnt dog friendly, id be more alert but id never love her any less. I know the risks..its my fiance who seems to take the "its all about how you train them" stance. Kinda a sore spot in our doggy debates.

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For your fiance: we had an opposite sex pair of dogs for well over a year. When the (neutered) male turned on, all he%$ broke loose, and we had to keep the pair separated for the rest of their lives together (the female died last year from cancer).

So, I'd really think about it ...

I will have him read this if i can..his perception of this forum is its all bullies that own "bullies" :P He is kinda transfixed by media lies..im working on him. slowly

[Illisezek]

I will have him read this if i can..his perception of this forum is its all bullies that own "bullies" :P He is kinda transfixed by media lies..im working on him. slowly

Try and get him involved more lol its pretty easy to train guys...

Ive successfully trained the BF, my sister, my brother, and a friend.. They all have or are getting a bully breed.. so its possible to get them to see the light

[encunnibriG]

Try and get him involved more lol its pretty easy to train guys...

Ive successfully trained the BF, my sister, my brother, and a friend.. They all have or are getting a bully breed.. so its possible to get them to see the light

Good to know. He loves the breed but I think he watched too many nat geo shows. He thinks all pits are like any other dog. So as much as he LOVES Slayer, im her main caretaker..or she'd be an off leash and free to roam dog. I dont know if he is just in denial that she might get toothy some day if it comes to other dogs or if he just sees her as a lab/beagle/lap dog?
I noticed when I check her teeth he wont look..I get a feeling he is a scaredy man.

[PharmaDrMan]

I wouldnt ever see slayer different if she wasnt dog friendly, id be more alert but id never love her any less. I know the risks..its my fiance who seems to take the "its all about how you train them" stance. Kinda a sore spot in our doggy debates.

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I will have him read this if i can..his perception of this forum is its all bullies that own "bullies" :P He is kinda transfixed by media lies..im working on him. slowly

A lot of people have that misconception - I have met several such Fur Mommies and Daddies over the years. Some have to learn the hard way (and have), and some find themselves losing a dog without having planned to do so

It is a learning process like any other; some will listen to those more experienced, some not.

As for the bully comment - as a group, bully owners tend to be more outspoken than others, but I would not describe them as 'bullies', LOL.

[encunnibriG]

A lot of people have that misconception - I have met several such Fur Mommies and Daddies over the years. Some have to learn the hard way (and have), and some find themselves losing a dog without having planned to do so

It is a learning process like any other; some will listen to those more experienced, some not.

As for the bully comment - as a group, bully owners tend to be more outspoken than others, but I would not describe them as 'bullies', LOL.

I am lucky he respects my wishes and trains/treats her to my standards. I think he is just over sensitive, admittedly as a new owner I found that I had to get a tough skin some to deal with the crossfire. I don't find you all bullies. I like that you are all realistic here. I quote this place all the time when talking to him. Most recently saying "she might be cold forever but you have to accept that she may well not".

[hjyAMqqT]

I have 4 pitties living in my house. 1 is male and 3 are female. The male is the only one neutered, the other females are not spayed. They get along pretty good and play pretty good together. I am, however, iffy about leaving the 4 alone for a long period of time. Each one has their own unique personality, and every once in a while they clash. 2 of the dogs were introduced into my home as puppies, the last one was about a year old when we rescued her and brought her in. She is kind of like the "outsider" sometimes, and I feel bad for her. But we give all of them the same amount of love and attention so that no dog is left out.

Our method of introducing new dogs into our house is letting all 4 of our dogs outside in the backyard and bringing in the "new" dog to sniff around first. Then we let our dogs inside to sniff each other. So far, this has worked for us. It might not work for everyone, so just be cautious.

Being a bully breed owner, we have to be very alert that they are strong and intelligent dogs. In my opinion, I think, some people don't have the "awareness" that us responsible owners have...which is why you see so much media attention (minus the fact of the dog fighters...bastards!) All in all, if you want to bring another dog into the picture, I think it should be a puppy.

Good luck in the future!

[Attaniuri]

I didn't read the thread so I apologize if I'm repeated others.... I think it will be okay getting a 2nd dog as long as you and your fiance understand that DA is a very real possibility. I get that you understand that but he really needs to be 100% in the same place as you are. He needs to be aware and accept that facts are facts. My dog didn't turn on until he was 4 years old.

I think the biggest thing here is that your fiance understands what could potentially happen and takes responsibility in keeping the future dog separate when needed. If he's not fully in agreeance with you, I would advise against a 2nd dog.

[encunnibriG]

I think I finally got him on my side of this argument. He isnt saying as much but he seems more willing to be cautious and more ready to watch her behavior. I told him we will get him his husky next year but that he is going to have to be ready to rotate the dogs fairly if we have to.
I guess I have some moronic owners to thank for this. Someone on our block left two dogs leashed somehow to the outside of thier car and the dogs were both super DA and trying to lunge at Slayer who we were walking. Slayer let out a pretty mean growl and started barking up a storm, and I dont blame her they were taunting her. My fiance seemed to come around after seeing that and realize that she has the potentential like ANY dog to go that course as well.
Also..someone should tell those retarded owners that Chows are large dogs and that they shouldnt be left unattended even tied cause that dog was on the sidewalk and DA with NO human in sight.

[Jellowstrom]

As long as you are both aware of the potential for, and willing to, crate and rotate if they end up not getting along, then by all means go ahead and get another dog. If you KNOW you don't want to live like that, if you KNOW you would feel differently about her (want to get rid of her, or put her down, or get rid of the other dog) if she attacks, hurts, or even kills the other dog, then no. You shouldn't get another dog.

Good post by Gator... I agree completely.

I have 6 dogs of various breeds. We adopted Bella when she was 3-4 months old, and Mollie was 4 yrs old. Slow introduction, but they got along wonderfully and were best friends..... for 2 years. Then slowly, I started noticing how Bella was getting snarky with Mollie. I was always right there and would intervene... but one day, I wasn't as fast as they were. Small scuffle, lasted less than 60 seconds... started watching them more closely, stricter supervision, then another spat less than 60 seconds. Then, they were separated all the time, and Bella no longer was allowed to sleep in the bed. Mollie got dibs on the bed because she had seniority rights . The last scuffle, I thought Mollie was outside, someone had let her in and I didn't know it. Bella saw her at the exact instant I saw her, but she was faster than I was. That scuffle lasted less than 2 minutes, but Bella ended up having to have a few stitches in her leg, more from the actual fight being broken up (pulling Mollie back when she had a hold on Bella's leg) than the actual scuffle. Now, I triple check to make sure where everyone is before anyone is let out, in or anywhere in between. Crate and rotate has been a part of my life for about 4 years now, Titus (my Lab/Husky mix) is the most dog aggressive dog I have and hates everyone with 4 feet and a tail. The other Lab mix, Zoey, is very submissive, but tends to get "picked on", so she is only allowed out with certain other ones. Cooper, the pit bull I'm fostering, was great with Bella and Zoey, until the neighbor kid came over and tried to reach over the fence to pet them, which caused Cooper to redirect on Zoey, and Bella decided to jump in as well. That scuffle lasted about 2 minutes tops. Now, Cooper and Bella only go outside solo. Titus can go out with Zoey, as can Mollie. Gizzmo can go out with Mollie, Zoey, Bella and Titus. It can be tricky, which is why I never let anyone else take care of my dogs, but once you get the routine down pat, it's as normal as breathing.

Any dog can get into a fight with another dog, it doesn't matter what breed they are. Read up on crate/rotate, invest in a break stick and learn the proper way to use it, and you'll be ok. Just don't be afraid to crate and rotate. Trust me, your dogs can lead a happy, healthy life on the crate/rotate regimen, and it will be a lot less stressful for you, if it comes down to that. Just never leave them unsupervised, like don't put them outside to potty while you run inside to take a shower, vacuum or anything like that. And when you do go outside with them, always have your break stick in hand. Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

Pit Bull Rescue Central has great break sticks, and instructions on the proper way to use them.

http://www.pbrc.net/breaksticks.html

[encunnibriG]

Wow, thanks so much. As long winded as that was that is highly informative. I couldn't imagine six of them and being able to handle that so well. Thanks for the link I will get my fiance to look at it with me on his days off. This for us is an ongoing discussion. As previously stated, I am aware of the possibilities and more then willing to crate and rotate if need be. He wont like it so much though cause much like in your case..Slayer will have bed rights..she was here first. So glad that most people on here do own multiple dogs and can shed some light on the inner workings of making it work.

[Jellowstrom]

Well, I've never been accused of not having something to say.

Crate and rotate can give you tons of peace of mind, and it's not all bad, it gives them and you, a much needed break at times. Of course, if he wants his pup to sleep with you, you can always tell him he can sleep on the couch! Seriously though, Bella and Mollie both slept in the bed without any problems, but I always knew that it could change, and Bella was crate trained at night before she started sleeping in the bed with me. She only started sleeping in the bed with me after my best friend died, more as a way to comfort me, than anything else.

Those who go into it with knowledge and information/help at their fingertips, most of the time, can manage a multi dog household, but it does take work, and extreme supervision and not "oh, let them work it out" or "they are ok, they are just dogs" kind of mindset. Read everything you can on multi dog households, and all the stickys in the General and training sections. You will find that to be your greatest means of help with learning the do's and don'ts of bringing another dog into the home. Just remember, your dog doesn't need doggie friends, the new dog should be for you, not simply as a playmate for the other dog, that's where a lot of people make their first mistake.

[encunnibriG]

That is exactaly what I was telling him. I am glad you guys are all sensible. He keeps saying Slayer and the pup will be best friends. I keep reminding him that while that is a possibility that it isnt something to bet or hope on and that we need to be prepared for the worst case scenario not just waiting on the best one. Thanks so much to ALL of you for your help and advice.

[secondmortgages]

Forgive me for saying this but you have had this pit bull for what a couple of months? You are already planning another dog? My suggestion is chill out, see how things go for a year or two. Learn about the dog you already have. Why do people start collecting dogs before they have any real experience with the first one. These dogs change a lot between one and two years of age. You have no idea what you are in for so my suggestion is wait until your pit bull is at least 2 years old and get some experience with regard to how the dog is with other dogs before you start loading up your house with more. This is a typical sign of youthful exuberance combined with a lack of experience. It typically leads to trouble. Be patient there is plenty of time to acquire more dogs why rush it. See how you feel in two years after you deal with a mature dog and possibly a little DA.

[encunnibriG]

Forgive me for saying this but you have had this pit bull for what a couple of months? You are already planning another dog? My suggestion is chill out, see how things go for a year or two. Learn about the dog you already have. Why do people start collecting dogs before they have any real experience with the first one. These dogs change a lot between one and two years of age. You have no idea what you are in for so my suggestion is wait until your pit bull is at least 2 years old and get some experience with regard to how the dog is with other dogs before you start loading up your house with more. This is a typical sign of youthful exuberance combined with a lack of experience. It typically leads to trouble. Be patient there is plenty of time to acquire more dogs why rush it. See how you feel in two years after you deal with a mature dog and possibly a little DA.

he tells me in a years time he wants a second dog..
..taken directly from first post. I am already on this side of the fence. Dont want one till we have Slayer longer.