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Old 10-03-2011, 08:32 PM   #1
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Default Dog Astrology - Your Thoughts?
Do you refer to dog astrology? There is more to a dogs needs that physical obviously, & because we can't have deep conversations with them (not 2-sided ones anyway!) using astrology is an interesting way to understand the inner-workings of your dog's mind...but you have to believe in that kind of stuff!

-Mimi is a rescue, we don't know her birthday but through researching her past, calling the state she came from, and then referring to astrology I was able to create a birthday for her. It is also helpful in considering, as a possible Libra, how to give her the "balance" she needs because as a rescue, she deserves so much to tip her scales from a neglected past to one filled with love & security.

Just a silly question I guess. Interested in your thoughts, your dog's sign, if you have noticed accuracy in dog astrology & things you do to accomate your dog's sign
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:47 PM   #2
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I have deep conversations with my dogs every day, mostly nonverbally.
I don't need some made up bs to tell me my dog's personality and her needs.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:52 PM   #3
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I have deep conversations with my dogs every day, mostly nonverbally.
I don't need some made up bs to tell me my dog's personality and her needs.
I was thinking about putting in here that this isn't a post criticizing those who believe in astrology, as I assume many people on here will do. I guess I should have done just that.

So you have "deep non-verbal conversations" with your dog daily, but are going to insult astrology believers by calling THAT "made up b.s."? Interesting logic.

-Please leave negative comments out of this thread. Thanks.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:56 PM   #4
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Astrology is bullshit in itself. It shouldn't be applied to humans, let alone animals. Every person, and animal, is unique, and just because you were born in a certain month does not dictate your personality or "needs".
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:58 PM   #5
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Wow, you all are gems are you?
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:59 PM   #6
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I never considered it where my dog in concerned, but then again, I dont put a lot of stock into any of it. I do call myself a gemini and notice a lot of similar traits to the ones they say but its purely entertainment for me.
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:02 PM   #7
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I have never gave it much thought either, I am not totally into astrology to be honest.

I also agree with bearxfoo on this:
Every person, and animal, is unique, and just because you were born in a certain month does not dictate your personality or "needs".
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:05 PM   #8
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I never considered it where my dog in concerned, but then again, I dont put a lot of stock into any of it. I do call myself a gemini and notice a lot of similar traits to the ones they say but its purely entertainment for me.
I think it can be entertaining for anyone. Some people live their entire lives based off of things like this (palm readings, tarot cards, etc), but I just think reading up on your sign is interesting when it does match a lot of your personality traits. And in that, moving it to the dog population is silly in some aspects, however, when my vet tells me to read my dog a book to calm her in the bath, I might choose Ghandi because that was recommended for a Libra dog
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:08 PM   #9
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Complete rubbish. Both for dogs and for humans. When science can show me proof I will consider it. For now, nothing to substantiate it.
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:10 PM   #10
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I think it can be entertaining for anyone. Some people live their entire lives based off of things like this (palm readings, tarot cards, etc), but I just think reading up on your sign is interesting when it does match a lot of your personality traits. And in that, moving it to the dog population is silly in some aspects, however, when my vet tells me to read my dog a book to calm her in the bath, I might choose Ghandi because that was recommended for a Libra dog
Wait, your Vet told you to read a book to your dog to calm it? Really? Am I misunderstanding?
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:11 PM   #11
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I think it can be entertaining for anyone. Some people live their entire lives based off of things like this (palm readings, tarot cards, etc), but I just think reading up on your sign is interesting when it does match a lot of your personality traits. And in that, moving it to the dog population is silly in some aspects, however, when my vet tells me to read my dog a book to calm her in the bath, I might choose Ghandi because that was recommended for a Libra dog
Dogs can't read, they don't know who Ghandi is, and wouldn't understand any words you're saying....
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:13 PM   #12
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It's kind of a fun thing (for humans or for dogs) - I would not live my life by it, nor design my dog's life around it.

Heck, I had a Libra dog (Madeleine), and if you look at the traits astronomy affixes to this sign, there was a lot of truth to it, LOL.
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:16 PM   #13
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Wait, your Vet told you to read a book to your dog to calm it? Really? Am I misunderstanding?
Yes indeed. She isn't some hippy-doctor or anything either! My dog has allergies and now requires 2 medicated baths a week. She hates baths but doesnt aggressively try to get away, just firmly and slowly tries to weasel out as if you won't notice, lol. So I guess my vet told my husband, since we have to leave the shampoo on for 10 minutes, to just sit in there and talk to her or read her a book to help keep her calm.

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It's kind of a fun thing (for humans or for dogs) - I would not live my life by it, nor design my dog's life around it.

Heck, I had a Libra dog (Madeleine), and if you look at the traits astronomy affixes to this sign, there was a lot of truth to it, LOL.
Totally agree! I am almost 100% Aries but I dont even get daily reading emails or anything like some people do, I just think it's entertaining to read how much I match the sign. And looking at Libra, I can totally see how my dog could benefit from my paying more attention to keeping her life in balance....like I said you have to believe in it or have an open mind *key word* to benefit from it.
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:17 PM   #14
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Im sorry, Ive just never heard of such a thing! And OHH, ok, that makes MORE sense. My male used to be the same way, try adjusting the water temp, that can really effect how some dogs handle it. Both of my guys used to hate baths, now they jump right in the tub.
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:21 PM   #15
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Im sorry, Ive just never heard of such a thing! And OHH, ok, that makes MORE sense. My male used to be the same way, try adjusting the water temp, that can really effect how some dogs handle it. Both of my guys used to hate baths, now they jump right in the tub.
I have tried several temps, from luke-cold, luke-warm to more on the warm-warm side. Haven't done cold or "hot shower" temp though as I assume she would hate those. I pretty much just gotta hold her one-handed as I do everything else, eventually she sits down and I stroke her face and talk to her, but she has this look of impending doom the entire time
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:34 PM   #16
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there is no way to keep the negative comments out of a thread like this, nor do we have a right to try...I mean in the title to your thread you asked what people's thoughts are... and lets face it, some of their thoughts are going to be negative and they have just as much right to express their opinion as those who are positive on the issue...
myself, I happen to think it is all hogwash... however, I also believe in your right to do what ever you feel is the thing to do...
and if it works for you, great...
me, if I do not like something,I don't do it... but I would never try to tell someone else not to...that is for them to decide for themselves... and if they want my opinion, they will ask for it... as you did in this thread...
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:45 PM   #17
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Dogs can't read, they don't know who Ghandi is, and wouldn't understand any words you're saying....
No one said anything about telling the dog to read the book herself. I think it undermines their intelligence to assume because they don't understand the range of language we do that they won't appreciate the spoken word of reading of book to them. Is it safe to assume then that you, in your infinite brilliance, never talk to you dog in ways he/she don't understand? I would venture to say many people talk to their dogs, having out-loud conversations about things their dog don't understand, however, the dog will greatly appreciate not sitting there in silence as you do whatever it is you do all day with your dog, or sitting there for 10 minutes as shampoo sits on their skin, only muttering the words, stay, no, sit, and good girl the entire time. Babies also do not understand written word, but it has been proven they benefit from reading while in the womb. I do not believe it is complete b.s. to read a book, whatever it may be, to a stressed out dog and quite frankly am glad I am not so close minded to assume it's pointless to speak to my dog in any other form than the basic commands I know she does understand.

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there is no way to keep the negative comments out of a thread like this, nor do we have a right to try...I mean in the title to your thread you asked what people's thoughts are... and lets face it, some of their thoughts are going to be negative and they have just as much right to express their opinion as those who are positive on the issue...
myself, I happen to think it is all hogwash... however, I also believe in your right to do what ever you feel is the thing to do...
and if it works for you, great...
me, if I do not like something,I don't do it... but I would never try to tell someone else not to...that is for them to decide for themselves... and if they want my opinion, they will ask for it... as you did in this thread...
While this this true, I did mention in my first reply that I almost asked that negative comments be left out because I did assume they would FLOCK to this thread like flies to poop because when on the internet, "your thoughts?" often translates into, "please tell me in any way you see fit your exact position on the matter, not taking into account my position and pleasant disposition, oh and feel free to criticize or down-right insult me, and anyone who agrees with me, in your reply." I see a few replies here that don't agree with or believe in astrology but were adult enough to respond in a respectful manner. The internet isn't license to lose tact.
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:50 PM   #18
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No one said anything about telling the dog to read the book herself. I think it undermines their intelligence to assume because they don't understand the range of language we do that they won't appreciate the spoken word of reading of book to them. Is it safe to assume then that you, in your infinite brilliance, never talk to you dog in ways he/she don't understand? I would venture to say many people talk to their dogs, having out-loud conversations about things their dog don't understand, however, the dog will greatly appreciate not sitting there in silence as you do whatever it is you do all day with your dog, or sitting there for 10 minutes as shampoo sits on their skin, only muttering the words, stay, no, sit, and good girl the entire time. Babies also do not understand written word, but it has been proven they benefit from reading while in the womb. I do not believe it is complete b.s. to read a book, whatever it may be, to a stressed out dog and quite frankly am glad I am not so close minded to assume it's pointless to speak to my dog in any other form than the basic commands I know she does understand.

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While this this true, I did mention in my first reply that I almost asked that negative comments be left out because I did assume they would FLOCK to this thread like flies to poop because when on the internet, "your thoughts?" often translates into, "please tell me in any way you see fit your exact position on the matter, not taking into account my position and pleasant disposition, oh and feel free to criticize or down-right insult me, and anyone who agrees with me, in your reply." I see a few replies here that don't agree with or believe in astrology but were adult enough to respond in a respectful manner. The internet isn't license to lose tact.
I don't, actually, talk to my dog. At all. He doesn't understand me. He can't respond back, and I don't enjoy hearing myself drone on and on like I'm talking to a wall. I cuddle with him, and I say things like "good boy!" when he's being good, but I don't sit there and actually converse with him. I don't tell him how my day went, I don't ask him to help me study, I simply do not talk to my dog - or any other animal I own. The furthest I'll take it is saying things like, "oh, does Dylan want some water?" when the bowl is empty, or etc, but that's it. And through classical conditioning, he'll actually respond to me asking that, because he's learned the words "water" and "bowl" = fresh water for him to drink.

I'm not saying my dog isn't smart - he's damn smart. But he doesn't understand the words I'm speaking, which is a completely different subject at hand.
Did I say somebody who speaks Spanish, compared to somebody who speaks English, is stupid? No, I did not. I stated he *doesn't understand*.

Don't ask for opinions if all you want is sunshine and butterflies. I have every right to state what I think of astrology, and no, I'm not going to sugar coat it just because you prefer something "nice" as opposed to something "not nice", which in itself is subjective. Saying something is bullshit doesn't have to be negative unless you take it that way, in which it's a personal issue that none of us can help you with, anyway.
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:59 PM   #19
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I never considered it where my dog in concerned, but then again, I dont put a lot of stock into any of it. I do call myself a gemini and notice a lot of similar traits to the ones they say but its purely entertainment for me.
This x2. Well, except that I'm not a Gemini..... I read my horoscope from time to time, but like Alma said, it's for entertainment purposes only, as none of the stuff I've ever read has come true! I don't know 5 out of my 6 dogs' birthdays, nor the 2 cats, but I know their "gotcha" dates, and that is pretty much when I celebrate with them.... singing, special treat and all!!
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Old 10-03-2011, 10:00 PM   #20
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I don't, actually, talk to my dog. At all. He doesn't understand me. He can't respond back, and I don't enjoy hearing myself drone on and on like I'm talking to a wall. I cuddle with him, and I say things like "good boy!" when he's being good, but I don't sit there and actually converse with him. I don't tell him how my day went, I don't ask him to help me study, I simply do not talk to my dog - or any other animal I own. The furthest I'll take it is saying things like, "oh, does Dylan want some water?" when the bowl is empty, or etc, but that's it. And through classical conditioning, he'll actually respond to me asking that, because he's learned the words "water" and "bowl" = fresh water for him to drink.

I'm not saying my dog isn't smart - he's damn smart. But he doesn't understand the words I'm speaking, which is a completely different subject at hand.
Did I say somebody who speaks Spanish, compared to somebody who speaks English, is stupid? No, I did not. I stated he *doesn't understand*.

Don't ask for opinions if all you want is sunshine and butterflies. I have every right to state what I think of astrology, and no, I'm not going to sugar coat it just because you prefer something "nice" as opposed to something "not nice", which in itself is subjective. Saying something is bullshit doesn't have to be negative unless you take it that way, in which it's a personal issue that none of us can help you with, anyway.
I believe this all comes down to differences in maturity. I can call Christianity bullshit all I want, but would I ever say that to my mother in law, who is a devout Christian? No. The simple fact is, it doesn't get anywhere! Other than people wondering, "wow that the hell is this guy's problem?" If you were to write about your dog, say, competing in strength competition or whatever, I wouldn't run into the thread talking about how those are just bullshit, mindless macho shows. You can have a form of respect for the speaker but also reply in your full right, with your opinion. I, also, don't walk around talking to my dog all day but when she won't potty I might say, "God Mimi, *go potty* it's freezing out here." Rather than, "Potty!" Because I feel I have a bond with my dog other than owner/pet...she is a family member. I also have a two-year-old who I talk to a bit above her level, rather than "yum yum food! yay!" all the time. I wouldn't even tell you I think it's b.s. you don't look into other methods of fullfilling your dogs life whether it be physical, mental or emotional...because that's your choice. I can only assume that my replies on my own thread really won't get anywhere with you because it's hard to get through to someone who is already close-minded in some ways, trying to defend their "right" to be flat out rude on someone else comments, questions or concerns. I'm sure this isn't a first for you, but hopefully you have a little more self-restraint in public when perhaps someone says something you disagree with
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