[PRengine]

I am not one who usually judges people for how they keep their dogs, but this video on this video saddens me. I don't really know much about the story but....I dont think it is normal for a dog to go in circles like the one in the video does. Seems like it does not leave this kennel very often.
What do yall think?

http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13841678

[flower-buy]

I agree.. BC's are highly intelligent dogs. It's probably cooped up 24/7, probably only taken out to breed. I wouldn't doubt if the dogs were mildly insane, hence the neurotic circling.

[PRengine]

I kinda looked a little more into the story. He is a breeder....50 dogs in kennels in a wooded lot that he does not live on. Said they are fed and watered though! Guess thats all that matters to some people.

[isopsmypovA]

BCS are also hyper as all living fuck. you cant straight up assume just because you see a dog running in circles in a kennel that the "poor thing is a abused." one of my pups runs back and fourth constantly in her kennel, she gets worked every damn day. why does she do it? BECAUSE SHES HYPER 24-7.

[Stasher11]

Yeah, BCs are high-energy dogs but the one in the video has gone kennel-crazy from lack of stimulation, exercise and interaction. It's very sad.

TN seems to be overridden with BC puppymillers. A huge one was shut down a few months ago, Richard Swafford. I am sure he's working on cahoots with this place now. It's all very sad.

[rikdpola]

I kinda looked a little more into the story. He is a breeder....50 dogs in kennels in a wooded lot that he does not live on. Said they are fed and watered though! Guess thats all that matters to some people.

Yup.

The legal requirements for pets are pretty low. Food, water, shelter, vet care if neccesary. As long as those basic needs are met...there's no laws protecting an animal's emotional or mental well being...just the very basics required for mere survival.

[isopsmypovA]

Yeah, BCs are high-energy dogs but the one in the video has gone kennel-crazy from lack of stimulation, exercise and interaction. It's very sad.

TN seems to be overridden with BC puppymillers. A huge one was shut down a few months ago, Richard Swafford. I am sure he's working on cahoots with this place now. It's all very sad.

tn is overrun with dogs everywhere. its insane. had a bloodhound, and a couple of mixed dogs stroll up to my car while we were getting gas.. my dogs flipping out and were yelling at them to leave.. a cop there looks at us and drives off.. apparently no one there cares about strays.

[nd90t3sf]

I think dogs living in kennels, or living on chains is cruel. I know a lot of breeders do it and think its OK but dogs are social animals and need a lot of interaction. I have less of a problem with fighting dogs than I do with how the dogs are forced to live when not in the [] or how they are treated in general. Any time someone is caring for too many animals or animals are a business it is inevitable that the animal is going to have a life similar to being in prison. There is no freedom and nothing positive to a life on a chain or in a cage, other than just having life or existing. I look at it like this, even in prison you get out of your cage for an hour a day of exercise, that isn't enough for a good life and it isn't enough for a dog. Just my opinion. Collecting dogs on the end of chains or in kennels doesn't make sense to me. It just make living things property for profit, or a personal collection.

[furious1]

I think dogs living in kennels, or living on chains is cruel. I know a lot of breeders do it and think its OK but dogs are social animals and need a lot of interaction. I have less of a problem with fighting dogs than I do with how the dogs are forced to live when not in the [] or how they are treated in general. Any time someone is caring for too many animals or animals are a business it is inevitable that the animal is going to have a life similar to being in prison. There is no freedom and nothing positive to a life on a chain or in a cage, other than just having life or existing. I look at it like this, even in prison you get out of your cage for an hour a day of exercise, that isn't enough for a good life and it isn't enough for a dog. Just my opinion. Collecting dogs on the end of chains or in kennels doesn't make sense to me. It just make living things property for profit, or a personal collection.

Well animals are property.

Now with that said. Just because you see a glimpse in time of a dog on a chain, in a kennel. Does not mean they do not get any social interaction. That is the problem with people like Dogs Deserve Better and the know nothing do gooders out there.

A chain, a kennel, a crate are not tools of abuse. They are inanimate objects. They can not abuse animals. It is a method on containment. It is the owner that does. And the fighting dog reference. LMAO Really? So all chained animals are fighting dogs? So those sled dogs that are kept on chains must be fighting as well.

How many house dogs are neglected. They get food, water, and shelter. But they do not get social interaction either. But I guess because they are in the house it is ok.

[nd90t3sf]

I never said dogs on chains meant they were fighting. I even said I had less of an issue with the fighting of dogs then I had with some of the practices used for breeding and housing of the dogs. I also realize the a chain or a crate does not abuse a dog and have no issue with these methods of containing animals, that said my point was if a dog is spending the majority of his life in a kennel, crate or on a chain, with say only an hour or two of interaction or exercise than I would consider that cruel. That does not mean I think someone who does it is evil or abusive per se, but PERSONALLY I would not do it to a pet.

I do believe if someone has several dogs living in kennels, or on chains they are most likely a dog business or rescue (which of course is a temporary situation). Because if dogs like that are not a business then what is the purpose? Just to have a collection of dogs? Isn't that the reason to rescue a dog out of a shelter or, is it a good life for a dog living is a cage even with periodic exercise, food, water and health care? If I adopt a dog from a no kill shelter, I consider it to be RESCUING a dog from it's life in a kennel or cage or on a chain. FWIW leaving a dog alone in a big back yard isn't all that great either.

Please understand I really don't care that much, and I am sure there are some dog lovers that keep dogs this way.

[PRengine]

Yeah, BCs are high-energy dogs but the one in the video has gone kennel-crazy from lack of stimulation, exercise and interaction. It's very sad.

TN seems to be overridden with BC puppymillers. A huge one was shut down a few months ago, Richard Swafford. I am sure he's working on cahoots with this place now. It's all very sad.

I think it might be the Richard Swafford guy. It is obvious that these dogs have one purpose and that is MONEY.

Yup.

The legal requirements for pets are pretty low. Food, water, shelter, vet care if neccesary. As long as those basic needs are met...there's no laws protecting an animal's emotional or mental well being...just the very basics required for mere survival.

On our road alone we have several homes with dogs that sit on chains or in kennels 24/7. 2 are bully breeds. I think it is easy for someone to put a dog in some form of containment and "forget" about them. Why even have the damn thing?

tn is overrun with dogs everywhere. its insane. had a bloodhound, and a couple of mixed dogs stroll up to my car while we were getting gas.. my dogs flipping out and were yelling at them to leave.. a cop there looks at us and drives off.. apparently no one there cares about strays.

Yeah...the cops have much bigger problems here in Memphis than stray dogs...lol. Animal control has much bigger problems here in Memphis than stray dogs. Sad but true.

I think dogs living in kennels, or living on chains is cruel. I know a lot of breeders do it and think its OK but dogs are social animals and need a lot of interaction. I have less of a problem with fighting dogs than I do with how the dogs are forced to live when not in the [] or how they are treated in general. Any time someone is caring for too many animals or animals are a business it is inevitable that the animal is going to have a life similar to being in prison. There is no freedom and nothing positive to a life on a chain or in a cage, other than just having life or existing. I look at it like this, even in prison you get out of your cage for an hour a day of exercise, that isn't enough for a good life and it isn't enough for a dog. Just my opinion. Collecting dogs on the end of chains or in kennels doesn't make sense to me. It just make living things property for profit, or a personal collection.

I understand what you are saying. There are many people I am sure who can own 50 dogs or more and give each one the proper exercise and socialization they need to be somewhat stable...but most people can't. So it then tends to make it somewhat obvious that there is another purpose to keeping so many dogs.

Well animals are property.

Now with that said. Just because you see a glimpse in time of a dog on a chain, in a kennel. Does not mean they do not get any social interaction. That is the problem with people like Dogs Deserve Better and the know nothing do gooders out there.

A chain, a kennel, a crate are not tools of abuse. They are inanimate objects. They can not abuse animals. It is a method on containment. It is the owner that does. And the fighting dog reference. LMAO Really? So all chained animals are fighting dogs? So those sled dogs that are kept on chains must be fighting as well.

How many house dogs are neglected. They get food, water, and shelter. But they do not get social interaction either. But I guess because they are in the house it is ok.

I completely agree with you on the kennel and chainspots being tools....just like the crate. A person can abuse any of them. I just think it is easier for a dog to be "forgotten" when they are kenneled with 50 other dogs in a wooded lot. They can also be "forgotten" as a house dog but I just have noticed that it is much easier when they are in a backyard or on houseless lot.....I am not saying that all people abuse these tools. I know there are many responsible owners who use a chain spot, kennel, and crate correctly.

[Attarderb]

I think dogs living in kennels, or living on chains is cruel. I know a lot of breeders do it and think its OK but dogs are social animals and need a lot of interaction. I have less of a problem with fighting dogs than I do with how the dogs are forced to live when not in the [] or how they are treated in general. Any time someone is caring for too many animals or animals are a business it is inevitable that the animal is going to have a life similar to being in prison. There is no freedom and nothing positive to a life on a chain or in a cage, other than just having life or existing. I look at it like this, even in prison you get out of your cage for an hour a day of exercise, that isn't enough for a good life and it isn't enough for a dog. Just my opinion. Collecting dogs on the end of chains or in kennels doesn't make sense to me. It just make living things property for profit, or a personal collection.

I agree it's cruel for dogs who live in isolated kennels or on chainspots 24/4/365,with little to no human interaction,never let out to play,never had fun,love or attention. It's another matter if its secure containment for only part of the day so they can blow off steam or lay in the sun when the master is at work.While mine do live with me,in my home,if I had the acreage I would have no qualms letting them outside most of the day to play in a large fenced in run with dog houses for shelter in case of sudden inclimate weather.Part of the day,in nice weather out in kennels is fine,but NOT complete isolation like those poor border collies!!! That is not right. That's a SHAME. BCs are so smart and active that I don't doubt at all they are suffering in that situation.Poor dogs.

[myspauyijbv]

I can't see the video. I'm on my phone and it keeps going to their mobile site.
Probably a good thing. I hate seeing working breeds put into situations like this. A dog like mine would do fine spending her life on a chain... she sleeps all day and could do without humans, except for me... but dogs like BCs need to go, go, go! They need a job and people to please.