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Old 01-14-2011, 09:08 AM   #1
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So I was wondering if I could ask the show folks, or well everybody not just the show folks, LOL a question.

Have you all ever heard of BITING your dog in the show ring cuz it wasn't doing what you wanted it to do? Yes I did say BITING. There is a certain somebody that does this and I was wondering if it's something all the show folks I know are missing out on or something LOL

What do you all think? Please bully folks chime in too. I would love to know if anybody pulls this stunt in the bully shows also.

Thanks for your time.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:39 AM   #2
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I remember there was someone from another forum who bit her dogs ear for unwanted behavior/not listening but she didn't show her dog so I guess it doesn't apply here. You just reminded me of that though lol. DO probably knows who I'm talking about.
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:00 PM   #3
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I have heard of one person doing it. And no I do not think it is appropiate.
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:05 PM   #4
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The only time I heard of that was from a movie called snow dogs. Didn't think people actually did it. Why would anyone do it?
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Old 01-14-2011, 03:10 PM   #5
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I haven't seen that one yet. Does it work? lol
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Old 01-14-2011, 03:29 PM   #6
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I know of parents who would bite their toddlers when the toddler bit folks... of course they did not bite hard or draw blood or anything...
their reasoning was it showed the toddler what it felt like and encouraged them not to do it....never thought much of that either....
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Old 01-14-2011, 03:39 PM   #7
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Obed that is different. The child bit someone. This is because the owner was pissed at the dog because he did not place and was barking. Not to mention after the fact and they were out of the ring.
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Old 01-14-2011, 03:41 PM   #8
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Okay...I'm not a show person...

but I do confess to having lightly bitten Veronica (especially when she was a puppy) because she drove me to distraction and that was the only way I could keep myself from killing her. (mainly when she was doing her puppy mouthing and everything from brushing her to putting her collar on to attaching the leash was a project because that little mouth was going everywhere and those damn puppy needle teeth HURT!)

I would not however claim that to be an actual "training method"...and I doubt I would ever "lose it" that badly in public.

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Obed that is different. The child bit someone. This is because the owner was pissed at the dog because he did not place and was barking. Not to mention after the fact and they were out of the ring.
Okay...that's just weird then!
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Old 01-14-2011, 03:44 PM   #9
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Obed that is different. The child bit someone. This is because the owner was pissed at the dog because he did not place and was barking. Not to mention after the fact and they were out of the ring.
oh, I do understand the difference, the one is for training purposes, the other is just out of immature frustration.. it serves no useful purpose...
if the parents had bit the child for the same reasons as the dog was bit, I would have whipped their ass, or at least tried to...

you just do not fuck with women or children in my presence....
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:05 PM   #10
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Yes this is simply out of punishment in public!!! Gimme a break!!! Worst part is this is somebody who claims to be such a fine representative of the breed. We aren't talking about in your living room at home or playing.

This silly person BIT the dog because they were mad at the dog!!! The question was really not a question at all even though I posted it as one. It was asked in sarcasm. LOL I think it's a turd move and they should be slapped for it.

BTW I won't mention any names s in public w
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:26 PM   #11
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I haven't heard of someone biting their dog. But as a horse person, I have seen people at fairs/shows biting their horses ears when the horses are acting up. I'm really not sure what the purpose of that would be. But I don't like witnessing it.
As for biting dogs, thats "effed" up.
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:26 PM   #12
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wow... Im not sure what I would do if I saw someone do that in the show ring. Probably fall out laughing at them. Thats the dumbest thing I have heard lol
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:33 PM   #13
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It was out of the show ring by the person's vechile.

It was not in the show ring. If it was I am almost certain it would have been adressed.

While yes Boogie posted it as sarcasm. However I am wondering is it a useful training method? Is it more of a puppy training tool? Or can t be used on an adult dog as in this situation?
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:39 PM   #14
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I haven't heard of someone biting their dog. But as a horse person, I have seen people at fairs/shows biting their horses ears when the horses are acting up. I'm really not sure what the purpose of that would be. But I don't like witnessing it.
As for biting dogs, thats "effed" up.
As a horse person myself, I was taught when a horse was acting naughty to grab it's ear. If the horse didn't straighten up, to twist and pull it's ear. When I first got my pony, she was a handful and it was the first time in 17 years of being around horses that I tried that method. It worked and after a few times of pulling on her ear, she got her act together quick. She now is one of the best over all horses I've ever been around.

As for biting a dog out of frustration because it did not place... that is a bit much. Specially out in public!

As for the other comment on biting a puppy to show it what it feels like when they are mouthing, I raised my American bulldog when she was a puppy by "pinching" her. She'd bite, I'd pinch her a bit hard but quick. She got the message and didn't like it and soon stopped biting.
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:47 PM   #15
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I am familiar with the pulling and twisting of horses ears, but never anything ear related to a dog. With the exctption of an old neighbor I used to have, had loads of mixed breed mutts and he would pull their ears when they got into sparring matches. Oddly enough it worked on the mutts.
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:52 PM   #16
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While yes Boogie posted it as sarcasm. However I am wondering is it a useful training method? Is it more of a puppy training tool? Or can t be used on an adult dog as in this situation?
I doubt it is a useful training method.

It sounds like a different version of the ear pinch correction that I have heard some people use (although at the point it was given, wth was she correcting, so if it was a correction it was an ill timed pointless one unless some behavior happened just prior to the ear pinch). Mainly I have heard of the ear pinch in the context of getting the dog to open it's mouth to accept the dumbbell.

Really sounds like she got frustrated/angry with the dog; which is human, but generally unproductive.
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Old 01-14-2011, 05:04 PM   #17
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Since I show, as well as compete in almost every dog sport there is, I guess I will chime in.
Yes I have bitten my dog, mainly Jaeger. No, not in the show ring. However, it has gotten him under control many times on the flyball lanes. He doesn't like to wait, especially when he is amped up. When there is a false start or the other team is taking too long to line up, he can be a handful to say the least.
I have gotten some weird looks, but I get that from running an APBT (especially an intact male) in flyball anyway. I also get laughs, and there are also some photos floating around of my biting him.
If you can imagine: a 60lb high drive APBT that can pull 3,000lbs+, the dog is a ball addict, and 7 other dogs on the lanes all barking and rearing to get loose. Remember no correction collars or equipment is allowed, this dog is on a harness. I personally am 5' 1" and weigh 116lbs. Holding onto Jaeger, when he is ready to go, can be very difficult.
So Yes, I have bit him on occasions. However, I bite his cheek or lip and never his ears. The ears are far too sensitive. And Yes it does work.
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Old 01-14-2011, 06:08 PM   #18
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My uncle used to bite his malamute's ear when he acted up. Not sure if it helped, but that dog was the most obedient dog I've ever seen. I can see where it can be helpful with a dog who is not phased by correction collars and the like. It is a direct correction from the handler without any middle-man per se. Haven't done it myself.
But, just like any correction, anyone that does it AFTER the fact, long after the dog has any idea of what they did, is an idiot and needs to go to some training classes to learn of their stupidity.
As for biting children, my mom bit my brother. Once and only once. My brother loved to bite me, hard, to the point that I would bleed. Nothing my mom did could keep him from biting me, other than keeping us separated (we were like 2ish I think). So she asked our doctor what she should do and he told her she needs to bite him because he doesn't understand that biting=pain. So she bit him, and he never bit me again.
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Old 01-14-2011, 06:38 PM   #19
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But is it after the incident. Or during it so the dog can identify the bite with the unacceptable behavior.



Since I show, as well as compete in almost every dog sport there is, I guess I will chime in.
Yes I have bitten my dog, mainly Jaeger. No, not in the show ring. However, it has gotten him under control many times on the flyball lanes. He doesn't like to wait, especially when he is amped up. When there is a false start or the other team is taking too long to line up, he can be a handful to say the least.
I have gotten some weird looks, but I get that from running an APBT (especially an intact male) in flyball anyway. I also get laughs, and there are also some photos floating around of my biting him.
If you can imagine: a 60lb high drive APBT that can pull 3,000lbs+, the dog is a ball addict, and 7 other dogs on the lanes all barking and rearing to get loose. Remember no correction collars or equipment is allowed, this dog is on a harness. I personally am 5' 1" and weigh 116lbs. Holding onto Jaeger, when he is ready to go, can be very difficult.
So Yes, I have bit him on occasions. However, I bite his cheek or lip and never his ears. The ears are far too sensitive. And Yes it does work.
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Old 01-14-2011, 06:38 PM   #20
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My husband bites luigi, but not for any reason other than the fact that my husband is naturally a torturer, he claps his hands loud next to the cat when he's sound asleep, tickles me until I literally pee my pants, and chews on the dog's face when he's sleepy. I think Luigi, like the rest of the creatures on the planet that are loved by my strange husband, understands that torture = love coming from michael. I've also done what Jazzy described a few times when he was little and SUPER bitey, I bit him back a few times because i couldn't help it, not because I actually thought it was a good idea. Who ever you are talking about that bit their dog because he/she was mad at it for not doing well in a show sounds like maybe they have issues all the way around.
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