[AlexBrith]

Save the cats! Here are a few forums that I love to visit! Have a cat? Check out the Feline forum!

Enjoy the APBT and its heritage? Look no further, Check out GameDog!

Have a Mastiff, a Cane Corso? Mastiff Forum: Molosser Breeds Discussion Forums

Here's another favorite pit bull forum I like: MPBP Pitbull Community Forum

And as always, please help us in the fight against BSL! Stop BSL

[Wrasialat]

Funny...

[AlexBrith]

I saw a dog fight once, and THAT was funny.

[Cxcvvfbgtr]

I love trolls

[tipoketpu]

<font color="Blue"><font size="3"> [quote]I love trolls

[Wrasialat]

I know, it is kind of sad that this would have to be one of the few forms of pleasure in their sad lives...but they are entertainment. They actually think they'd get someone mad by saying ridiculous things.

Lets start a "I

[bobibnoxx]

Lets start a "I

[AlexBrith]

^^^lol

ill be the admin of it!!!!!!!!

[Wrasialat]

ill be the admin of it!!!!!!!!

Let's get going!
The freewebs are free I believe. You go ahead and start a troll forum of random, and let us know when it's ready

[TNOULbr2]

Thought Provoking Surprises in Breed-Specific Legislation

Head Barista at pamshouseblend.com
Posted: January 11, 2010 01:46 PM

Because my wife Kate and I are dog lovers and know how hard the economy has hit local shelters (many people abandon or surrender their dogs for financial reasons) we made several deliveries of toys, towels and food to the Animal Protection Society of Durham last year but last fall we also decided to sponsor a dog cage. This will cover the costs to house a "guest" canines during the year in terms of food and necessities.

The APS handles the intake and adoption of animals for the city/county, with the city's Animal Control handling animal pickup and enforcement of local ordinances. This differs from, say other county shelters handle both, and having visited some, the animals spend their limited time there before euthanasia in pitiful, horrible circumstances.

The dogs at the APS are in clean cinderblock suites, kept up by the many volunteers who walk and give the dogs human affection and attention to make them adoption-worthy candidates, and that includes the often forgotten and misperceived pit bulls, which are often pit mixes. No pittie is put up for adoption without temperament testing, so it's a matter of educating folks that pits are great family dogs, love children -- but they are not first-time adopter dogs, like many breeds that prospective owners should research rather than impulse adopt.

So I'm starting a weekly feature on my blog to spotlight some cute pit bulls that deserve a chance for a forever home with the right person or family who's willing to put in the time, training and love to meet their needs, because the love they will receive from this very people-focused breed pays off in big dividends. My first two...




Too many dogs end up back in shelters, particularly after the holidays, because of the lack of understanding of the dog breed's working, herding, burrowing, lure-chasing or guarding instincts (see Jack Russell Terriers, Border Collies, Weimeraners, German Shepherds, Rotties, Dobermans -- and pits). If you can't put in the time to give a positive outlet for them, you'll have your furniture destroyed, or an anti-social, snipping, lunging, out-of-control dog -- it's not their fault, it's you the owner --and knowing what you're in for.

For those who believe in breed-specific bans what follows is some food for thought. I was shocked at the number of breeds besides the "pit bull" (which has a preposterously broad definition) that you might not think some states and municipalities ban. Your breed may be next.

We both watch The Dog Whisperer (Cesar Millan, National Geographic) and "It's Me Or the Dog" (with Victoria Stilwell on Animal Planet), and DogTown (Best Friends Animal Society, National Geographic). Anyone who wants to implement breed-specific legislation and believes that pit bulls are evil and not rehabilitable, should watch the NatGeo programs in particular. Cesar Millan is a huge advocate for pit bulls and frank about the facts and myths -- and focuses on responsible dog ownership. See his pack gallery and his stories about pits Daddy and Junior.

But when I was watching a program about owners who couldn't control their Shar Pei from going red-zone ape-sh*t when vistors came, I decided to look up the breed's history, and what do you know, [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shar_Pei"]it was historically used for guarding and fighting[/ame]. You don't see that breed on most breed ban legislation. In fact, many advocates of the Shar Pei know the breed is no different from pit bulls in that respect, but try to hide the history to avoid getting on a ban.

Incidentally, Western breeders maintain that any dog in China that protects property is called a fighting dog, whereas in Canada and the United States, they are referred to as guard dogs. This is still a moot point. Up until the introduction of Breed Specific Legislation, designed to target breeds alleged to be "more likely" to attack and largely aimed at criminalising the American Pit Bull Terrier, the Shar-Pei was regarded as a breed designed, bred and selected for dog fighting.
After the introduction of various Breed Specific Legislation, many breeders started to deny the fighting ancestry and concocted fanciful tales of a hunting heritage. It is worth mentioning that the Chinese and Taiwanese still regard the Shar-Pei as a dog-fighting breed, although the prohibitive cost of the breed has done much to discourage such abuse.
Isn't that special? And what about [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rottweiler"]Rottweilers[/ame] -- how come they escape breed bans?

Rottweilers are a powerful breed with well developed genetic herding and guarding instincts. As with any breed, potentially dangerous behavior in Rottweilers usually results from irresponsible ownership, abuse, neglect, or lack of socialization and training. However, the exceptional strength of the Rottweiler is an additional risk factor not to be neglected. It is for this reason that breed experts recommend that formal training and extensive socialization are essential for all Rottweilers.
I guarantee you that a good number of Rottie owners haven't gone through formal training, and those dogs can outweigh pits by 50 lbs. or more. And I can't count the number of times I've had people recall some they know or themselves being bitted by a German Shepherd Dog, a breed rarely on a BSL list. But they are clearly a menace if untrained and do turn up in shelters a lot.

Moreover, studies rely on 'reported' bites, leading the National Geographic Channel television show, The Dog Whisperer to conclude that small dog breeds are likely responsible for more bites than large dog breeds, but often go unreported.[32] In addition, according to the National Geographic Channel television show, Dangerous Encounters, the bite of a German Shepherd Dog has a force of over 200 pounds (compared with that of a Rottweiler, over 300 pounds of force, a Pitbull, also over 200 pounds of force, a Labrador Retriever, of approximately 125 pounds of force, or a human, of approximately 170 pounds of force), which means it is important to note the impact that 'reported' bites and serious injury have on any dog bite studies and to distinguish a dog attack from 'aggression'.[33] Regardless, one source indicates that fatalities have been attributed to over 30 breeds since 1975, including small breeds, such as the Pomeranian.[34] These claims have also been disputed on the statistical basis that German Shepherds represent a higher proportion of the population than other breeds and also because of the use of German Shepherd Dogs as protection dogs, which would require controlling statistical data for "pet" or "companion" use and not military, police or guard use. An Australian report from 1991 indicates that German Shepherd Dog bites are still over-represented in Australia when the statistics take into account the difference in population (though not use).[35] Again, though, there is a difference between 'aggression' in a dog and a dog attack. It is also important to note that German Shepherds are very common in cross-bred canines. And due to their popularity the layman will likely recognize most GSD cross-breeds simply as "German Shepherd," if a report is ever filed.
In fact my brother-in-law was just bitten by a GSD recently, while riding on his bike in a park. If that had been a pit or pit mix, would it have been reported? I'll have to ask him sometime.
Anyway, take a look at this list of Breed-Specific Legislation implemented around the country. I couldn't believe my eyes on this one.


Residents of the New York City Housing Authority are prohibited from owning the following dog breeds: Akita Inu, Alangu Mastiff, Alano Español, American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Argentine Dogo, Bedlington Terrier, Boston Terrier, Bull and Terrier, Bull Terrier, Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Dogo Sardesco, English Mastiff, Fila Brasileiro, Gull Dong, Gull Terr, Irish Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Korean Jindo Dog, Lottatore Brindisino, Neapolitan Mastiff, Perro de Presa Canario, Perro de Presa Mallorquin, Shar Pei, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Tosa Inu[45]
Honestly we're down to banning these dogs now?


[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedlington_Terrier"]Bedlington Terrier[/ame] (L), Boston Terrier (R).

Bedlingtons have NO fighting history. Boston Terriers, believe it or not, do, but it has been bred down over the years to be solely a companion dog. I want to know what the f*ck kind of information the New York City Housing Authority used to make that list up.

And Dobies, Rotties and German Shepherds DON'T make the above list, despite the factual information out there?! Oh wait, those are popular breeds, regardless of their potential for possible aggression issues in the wrong hands. And there are ridiculous iterations of this statement in almost all of the legislation listed, banning:

[A]ny dog exhibiting those distinguishing characteristics which substantially conform to the standards established by the American Kennel Club or United Kennel Club for any of the above breeds.
The canine merely has to look somewhat like a pit bull to be banned/destroyed, including mixes. That means you could have a Lab/Pit mix litter with some looking like the Lab, others like the Pit, and no idea which may have a dog-aggressive nature that the legislation is trying to ban. This is outlandishly subjective legislation intended, to scoop up enough dogs and deeming them dangerous, instead let's bad owners off the hook, and punishes responsible owners.

My goal with this weekly feature is to give left-behind pit bull pet prospects some sunshine and light, rather than focus on those "pits" that generate bad headlines because of their owners. So many dogs that could brighten lives end up euthanized or ignored for purebred purchases from breeders or pet stores. Please support and encourage spay/neuter programs to reduce the population of unwanted cats and dogs brought into the world.

Pam Spaulding: Thought Provoking Surprises in Breed-Specific Legislation

[AlexBrith]

^^^ Could u sum that up
O yea, howd u like my site?

[tipoketpu]

You should take the time to read it....if you are passionate about fighting for something you should be educated about it from all angles

[TNOULbr2]

To learn more about breed bans ClickHere

[InsManKV]

Ban Pit Bulls Petition Ban the damned dogs

Do your research dumb ass! The Truth About Pitbulls

[tipoketpu]

Purple, You are a genius!!

[InsManKV]

If alot of people started getting hit by red cars would we ban them? I got a red car maybe I could hit you then you could ban my car right?

[PriernPayorse]

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But when I was watching a program about owners who couldn't control their Shar Pei from going red-zone ape-sh*t when vistors came, I decided to look up the breed's history, and what do you know, it was historically used for guarding and fighting. You don't see that breed on most breed ban legislation. In fact, many advocates of the Shar Pei know the breed is no different from pit bulls in that respect, but try to hide the history to avoid getting on a ban.

Incidentally, Western breeders maintain that any dog in China that protects property is called a fighting dog, whereas in Canada and the United States, they are referred to as guard dogs. This is still a moot point. Up until the introduction of Breed Specific Legislation, designed to target breeds alleged to be "more likely" to attack and largely aimed at criminalising the American Pit Bull Terrier, the Shar-Pei was regarded as a breed designed, bred and selected for dog fighting.
After the introduction of various Breed Specific Legislation, many breeders started to deny the fighting ancestry and concocted fanciful tales of a hunting heritage. It is worth mentioning that the Chinese and Taiwanese still regard the Shar-Pei as a dog-fighting breed, although the prohibitive cost of the breed has done much to discourage such abuse.

I have a shar-pei mix and I know full well they're fighting dogs. I guess American ignorance works in our favor on this one. People think they're just rolly polly balls of wrinkles when really they're more DA than pits...... My pit mix is much friendlier than my shar-pei mix, but then again shes only 5 months.

[bobibnoxx]

http://www.pitbulllovers.com/pitbull...mperament.html
Pit Bull Temperament

By Jason Mann
Before we can talk about the temperament of Pit Bulls we have to first understand what temperament means.
Temperament can be defined as an individual's way of behaving or reacting to specific situations.
Reactions can include fear, shyness, aggressiveness, curiosity, courage and willingness.
Whether you are rescuing a Pit Bull or buying a puppy from a breeder, temperament is the most important factor to consider when making your choice.
One reason people choose to rescue a Pit Bull instead of buying from a breeder is when you adopt an adult you know their temperament and you can be certain of their behavior and reactions to general situations.
Puppies do not come with this benefit. You could bring home the best looking puppy in the litter that reacted to you with love and tenderness, but at the age of 2 will they still have that same temperament? The answer is no. Life experiences will shape their behaviors and reactions to certain situations.
Temperament is shaped through genetics and life experiences. How a 4 month old puppy reacts to a situation might not be the same reaction when they are 3 or 4 years old.
Even if you have the best looking dog on the block, if you didn't give temperament the weight it deserves you could have a great looking dog that has horrible temperament and is a burden to the breed.
How to Identify Proper Pit Bull Temperament

Proper Pit Bull temperament is easily identified as is poor temperament.
A Proper Temperament includes:

1. Strong nerves. A Pit Bull that shrinks or panics when confronted with loud noises or unfamiliar situations is showing weak nerves. Pit Bulls with proper temperament will show strong nerves in unfamiliar situations and their reactions to strange sounds, while at first might be fearful, will quickly turn to investigation the noise.
2. Friendly and outgoing. Even with strangers they have never met they will show an out-going nature and be willing to engage in fun with a total stranger without caution. In short, they love all people.
   
   I would like to note that a dog that shows fear towards any person was either not socialized correctly or in the case of a rescue dog may have been abused. Even when abused, a correct Pit Bull will still except strangers without much fuss though.
3. Submissive, but not overly so. A correct Pit Bull should be willing to submit to you willingly and not be over bearing or overly shy or nervous.
   
   This is a common trait of the breed despite popular belief they have a "hard temperament" which implies they are dominant towards people. Some individuals are dominant. The majority of individuals are submissive in their nature towards people. Especially their people.
4. Animal aggression. Animal aggression, especially dog aggression is common with the breed and should be considered normal.
   
   Abnormal dog and animal aggression should be dealt with quickly by seeking out a professional to help. Some Pit Bulls are "off the hook" when it comes to their aggressive behavior towards animals.
   
   In my opinion, this behavior is not normal of the breed as a whole and is not that common unless reinforced by people.
5. Highly intelligent. I like to say they can think on their feet. Because a proper Pit Bull will learn new obedience behaviors, tricks and even bad behaviors quickly without much effort.
   
   Their energy for learning new things is almost unstoppable.
6. High Energy. This is not true of all Pit Bulls. However, as a breed, the majority of individuals are packed to the rim with an abundance of energy. Lots of long walks and hard exercise is the order of the day for a Pit Bull owner.

While I could list 10-15 more traits of a proper temperament these make up the core of a sound American Pit Bull Terrier.
A Word about Human Aggression

Human aggression in the Pit Bull is rare. Those individuals who show this trait should be eliminated (put to sleep).
There is simply no room in our world for a Pit Bull that bites people or is capable of biting people.
Breeders, wait, puppy sellers, wait, morons, who sell dogs that are unstable biting freaks are abundant these days and their dogs show their immoral, misguided, lack of canine knowledge, actions.
While Pit Bulls do work in protection sports (the key word is SPORT) on a whole they make horrible real situation protection dogs. This is a result of their natural willingness to be friendly towards all people.
In short a human aggressive Pit Bull is a Pit Bull that should be put to sleep. No exceptions.
Summing Up Proper Pit Bull Temperament

Proper Pit Bulls (American Pit Bull Terriers) are eager to please their people, they love just about everyone, and combined with their high energy are great dogs for an active owner or active family.
They are not protective by nature as many people believe. I got into an altercation a few years ago with two men on the street who threatened me and were going to try and steal my girls. I dropped their leashes and as I was locked in a fight with both of them they ran home (this happened about 100 yards from my house) and I found them hiding under my truck.
This is a typical scenario. Dogs are not naturally protective for several reasons. First, they are submissive to you (the alpha) who is supposed to be the top dog. The top dog is the one who protects them from trouble. Not the other way around.
This is natural canine behavior and the Pit Bull is no exception.
In the end, a proper Pit Bull will love you, excel at just about any sport or activity you get involved with, and burst at the seems with life every day their eyes are open.
If you are not willing to give them that kind of life, a high energy life full of activity, then please, choose another breed that better suits your lifestyle.


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http://www.realpitbull.com/files/GuidetoPitBullTemp.pdf

[Wrasialat]

Purple, something is different

[PriernPayorse]

If alot of people started getting hit by red cars would we ban them? I got a red car maybe I could hit you then you could ban my car right?

Me too! Red cars for life! Wow, this is how desensitized we've become to ignorant people spouting breed bans. I'm proud of us.