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**alex_loudermilk** · 03-17-2009, 08:39 PM

I used to browse kennel websites for hours looking for dogs. This has been about 6 years or so by now....I used to be in awe about most of the dogs I saw....but after reading these posts and talking with some of you guys and gals, I realized that most of what I was looking at was BULL$HIT! Some I like, some I don't. But now even more than ever, do I realize what's correct in the dogs. I personally like the larger yet agile pit-bull, the low-riders are cool if they are portioned correctly....If your dog has a freakishly large head and barley can hold it up or its body is so large that it can't even make a jog around the block ONCE, YOU ARE TRIPPIN! I don't want a dog that's gonna fall out in the middle of tryin to stop an intruder from coming in my home if thats the case and yes I know that somone is gonna say they are not bred for protection but it was just an analogy. But at the end of the day, if you are happy with what you have and you love it and care for it properly, then so be it. I'm not one to judge, just stating my thoughts......

**DoctorTentonyya** · 03-17-2009, 08:47 PM

Welcome to the forum.

Where minds are changed daily. LOLOL!!!!!!

**Ubgvuncd** · 03-17-2009, 08:47 PM

Isn't it amazing what a little bit of education will do to open people's eyes.

**alex_loudermilk** · 03-17-2009, 08:54 PM

True, but some things I'm not gonna change like, Figh....I mean matching........ and I'm not big on rescue dogs either..... but I do thank you for the knowledge dropped!

**LICraig** · 03-17-2009, 09:13 PM

Pit Bull Chat, where BS is uncovered everyday!!

**Ubgvuncd** · 03-17-2009, 09:47 PM

and I'm not big on rescue dogs either

Although my opinions on rescue and it's affect on the breed have changed after being involved in it for many years, there are TONS of AMAZING rescue dogs out there. Some of the ones I've had come through my house over the years, let's just say I'd be proud to call one of my own. Alot of wicked dogs just wind up with the shitty end of the owner stick, ya know.

**lzwha** · 03-17-2009, 10:10 PM

I know this might take a bit of work on your part, but I would like to know the posts/ideas that changed your thinking??? It would be good to know what works...

**alex_loudermilk** · 03-17-2009, 11:08 PM

That is a bit of work! it's mainly seeing the correct conformations and understanding whats correct and whats not, learning, the true history, where they came from which explains why there are different types of bullies.

**lzwha** · 03-17-2009, 11:19 PM

learning, the true history, where they came from which explains why there are different types of bullies.

That is a BIG ONE. I don't know why it is so hard for some to "let themselves" understand the history and differences.

Share the Knowledge...Save the Breed!

**Helloheshess** · 03-17-2009, 11:23 PM

Pit Bull Chat, where BS is uncovered everyday!!

Winner of thread

**LICraig** · 03-17-2009, 11:24 PM

lol

Glad you are learning Truk.

There is much to know and many opinions to consider.

**alex_loudermilk** · 03-17-2009, 11:42 PM

with all thats out there, aint no tellin what I'll come home with next time......But I do knowm that it will be papered legit from a reputable breeder....I really want to get into showing and weight pulling.

**HawksBurnDown** · 03-18-2009, 02:14 AM

I have been very lucky, I have been very good friends with an UKC Judge for about 8 to 10 yrs (and she has owned APBT's for 30 yrs or so), I have met a lot of her UKC Judge friends through the yrs, & a very good friend of her's is a ADBA Judge. It is so much fun just sitting & talking dog's. I have found through the yrs that each judge sees each dog differantley. So if you do ever start showing, just remember it is only that judges opinion that day & that show. Don't ever get discouraged, & remember some times it's the handler (you) that might make your dog look bad

or maybe you or your dog is having a bad day. It happens, been there, done that

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**Sniliabiz** · 03-18-2009, 02:35 AM

Glad that you are widening your thinking... lol.

On rescue, well, I just rescued a pup from a place in Mississippi, and so far, she's awesome! Naturally, unless you have a breeder you can trust, and papers to back everything up, you never truly know what you are getting, and it's a crap shoot as to whether it will turn out to be the best dog ever, or not. It's like everyday you get in your car and start the ignition, you may have a wreck and you may not.... there's no guarentees in life, except death and taxes.

Even though I have a rescue, well, 5 rescues since I became an adult, and a total of 4 of those are still alive, they have all been some of the best dogs I've ever had..... well, maybe except for Zoe, and she's just plain ADHD,

but other than that, they've all been great dogs. It may not be for you, but don't close the door completely... maybe just push it to a little, but don't close it completely..... you never know what tomorrow may bring.

**AntonioMQ** · 03-18-2009, 03:07 AM

Gotta love when anyone takes the moment to see and think with a different perspective =]

**alex_loudermilk** · 03-18-2009, 03:36 AM

I've always been open minded on most things. I usually try to see it from both sides of the fence and go with what I feel is right for me. But anyway, the rescue thing is cool, I understand the concept but I don't see me going, not to say that it can't happen for the fact that u never know what tommorow brings. But what I wanna do I can't do wit a rescue or whatever.

**HawksBurnDown** · 03-18-2009, 03:55 AM

The nice thing with the UKC you can register your spayed/nuetered dog/rescue with them and get weight pull titles & get titles in the other working events too. I really wish more people would do this with their dogs/rescues. They just can't show in conformation. APBT's or mix breeds you can get a Limited registation.

**LICraig** · 03-18-2009, 05:13 AM

I've always been open minded on most things. I usually try to see it from both sides of the fence and go with what I feel is right for me. But anyway, the rescue thing is cool, I understand the concept but I don't see me going, not to say that it can't happen for the fact that u never know what tommorow brings. But what I wanna do I can't do wit a rescue or whatever.

I got three rescues and we are working on therapy dogs, flyball, weightpulling, and I want to start dock dogs

I just need a pool... lol
I just train for fun since there are never any events here

Except flyball and dockdogs.

**VZF74G0M** · 03-18-2009, 05:23 AM

Turner, where do you live? I think I will run into the same problem where I am. I want to get into weight pulling as well.

apbtkidz, I was not aware you could register a non papered dog?

**LICraig** · 03-18-2009, 07:42 PM

Turner, where do you live? I think I will run into the same problem where I am. I want to get into weight pulling as well.

Las Vegas

Yeah, it's tough to find weight pull in this area.

03-17-2009, 08:39 PM	#1
alex_loudermilk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	Look at what you all did to me........ I used to browse kennel websites for hours looking for dogs. This has been about 6 years or so by now....I used to be in awe about most of the dogs I saw....but after reading these posts and talking with some of you guys and gals, I realized that most of what I was looking at was BULL$HIT! Some I like, some I don't. But now even more than ever, do I realize what's correct in the dogs. I personally like the larger yet agile pit-bull, the low-riders are cool if they are portioned correctly....If your dog has a freakishly large head and barley can hold it up or its body is so large that it can't even make a jog around the block ONCE, YOU ARE TRIPPIN! I don't want a dog that's gonna fall out in the middle of tryin to stop an intruder from coming in my home if thats the case and yes I know that somone is gonna say they are not bred for protection but it was just an analogy. But at the end of the day, if you are happy with what you have and you love it and care for it properly, then so be it. I'm not one to judge, just stating my thoughts...... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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DoctorTentonyya Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 453 Senior Member	Welcome to the forum. Where minds are changed daily. LOLOL!!!!!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2009, 08:54 PM	#4
alex_loudermilk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	True, but some things I'm not gonna change like, Figh....I mean matching........ and I'm not big on rescue dogs either..... but I do thank you for the knowledge dropped! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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LICraig Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 659 Senior Member	Pit Bull Chat, where BS is uncovered everyday!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2009, 09:47 PM	#6
Ubgvuncd Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 643 Senior Member	and I'm not big on rescue dogs either Although my opinions on rescue and it's affect on the breed have changed after being involved in it for many years, there are TONS of AMAZING rescue dogs out there. Some of the ones I've had come through my house over the years, let's just say I'd be proud to call one of my own. Alot of wicked dogs just wind up with the shitty end of the owner stick, ya know. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2009, 10:10 PM	#7
lzwha Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	I know this might take a bit of work on your part, but I would like to know the posts/ideas that changed your thinking??? It would be good to know what works... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2009, 11:08 PM	#8
alex_loudermilk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	That is a bit of work! it's mainly seeing the correct conformations and understanding whats correct and whats not, learning, the true history, where they came from which explains why there are different types of bullies. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2009, 11:19 PM	#9
lzwha Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	learning, the true history, where they came from which explains why there are different types of bullies. That is a BIG ONE. I don't know why it is so hard for some to "let themselves" understand the history and differences. *Share the Knowledge...Save the Breed!* Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2009, 11:23 PM	#10
Helloheshess Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 535 Senior Member	Pit Bull Chat, where BS is uncovered everyday!! Winner of thread Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2009, 11:24 PM	#11
LICraig Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 659 Senior Member	lol Glad you are learning Truk. There is much to know and many opinions to consider. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-17-2009, 11:42 PM	#12
alex_loudermilk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	with all thats out there, aint no tellin what I'll come home with next time......But I do knowm that it will be papered legit from a reputable breeder....I really want to get into showing and weight pulling. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-18-2009, 02:14 AM	#13
HawksBurnDown Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 695 Senior Member	I have been very lucky, I have been very good friends with an UKC Judge for about 8 to 10 yrs (and she has owned APBT's for 30 yrs or so), I have met a lot of her UKC Judge friends through the yrs, & a very good friend of her's is a ADBA Judge. It is so much fun just sitting & talking dog's. I have found through the yrs that each judge sees each dog differantley. So if you do ever start showing, just remember it is only that judges opinion that day & that show. Don't ever get discouraged, & remember some times it's the handler (you) that might make your dog look bad or maybe you or your dog is having a bad day. It happens, been there, done that. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-18-2009, 02:35 AM	#14
Sniliabiz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 415 Senior Member	Glad that you are widening your thinking... lol. On rescue, well, I just rescued a pup from a place in Mississippi, and so far, she's awesome! Naturally, unless you have a breeder you can trust, and papers to back everything up, you never truly know what you are getting, and it's a crap shoot as to whether it will turn out to be the best dog ever, or not. It's like everyday you get in your car and start the ignition, you may have a wreck and you may not.... there's no guarentees in life, except death and taxes. Even though I have a rescue, well, 5 rescues since I became an adult, and a total of 4 of those are still alive, they have all been some of the best dogs I've ever had..... well, maybe except for Zoe, and she's just plain ADHD, but other than that, they've all been great dogs. It may not be for you, but don't close the door completely... maybe just push it to a little, but don't close it completely..... you never know what tomorrow may bring. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-18-2009, 03:07 AM	#15
AntonioMQ Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 545 Senior Member	Gotta love when anyone takes the moment to see and think with a different perspective =] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-18-2009, 03:36 AM	#16
alex_loudermilk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	I've always been open minded on most things. I usually try to see it from both sides of the fence and go with what I feel is right for me. But anyway, the rescue thing is cool, I understand the concept but I don't see me going, not to say that it can't happen for the fact that u never know what tommorow brings. But what I wanna do I can't do wit a rescue or whatever. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-18-2009, 03:55 AM	#17
HawksBurnDown Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 695 Senior Member	The nice thing with the UKC you can register your spayed/nuetered dog/rescue with them and get weight pull titles & get titles in the other working events too. I really wish more people would do this with their dogs/rescues. They just can't show in conformation. APBT's or mix breeds you can get a Limited registation. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-18-2009, 05:13 AM	#18
LICraig Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 659 Senior Member	I've always been open minded on most things. I usually try to see it from both sides of the fence and go with what I feel is right for me. But anyway, the rescue thing is cool, I understand the concept but I don't see me going, not to say that it can't happen for the fact that u never know what tommorow brings. But what I wanna do I can't do wit a rescue or whatever. I got three rescues and we are working on therapy dogs, flyball, weightpulling, and I want to start dock dogs I just need a pool... lol I just train for fun since there are never any events here Except flyball and dockdogs. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-18-2009, 05:23 AM	#19
VZF74G0M Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 518 Senior Member	Turner, where do you live? I think I will run into the same problem where I am. I want to get into weight pulling as well. apbtkidz, I was not aware you could register a non papered dog? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-18-2009, 07:42 PM	#20
LICraig Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 659 Senior Member	Turner, where do you live? I think I will run into the same problem where I am. I want to get into weight pulling as well. Las Vegas Yeah, it's tough to find weight pull in this area. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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