[Fdhwzctl]

Being on BullyDomain made me think of this. Note this is not a bashing....


Dear American Bully Owners,

I know many of you feel that your dog is an American Pit Bull Terrier. Many says, "All Dave Wilson added was Amstaff." Dave Wilson may have only added Amstaff blood to his line. I wasn't there, so I can only take what he says as the truth. However, other people have obviously added more than just Amstaff to their lines, like English bulldog and Mastiff (in some cases). It doesn't make your dog less "worthy", it just makes it a different breed.

Yes, to John Q. Public, a "Pit Bull" is anything that slightly resembles an American Pit Bull Terrier, but just because you have some of the blood in there, doesn't make it one. A person with a Patterdale could possible lose their dog as well if BSL comes knocking at their door, but that doesn't make it an American Pit Bull Terrier, just because the uneducated Public thinks it's one.

Yes, we need to stick together, but that doesn't mean that we have to agree that the American Bully and the American Pit Bull Terrier are the same breed. We should stick together in the fact that we don't want any of them banned, be it an American Pit Bull Terrier, an Amstaff, a Staffie, or an American Bully, or any breed. I have no problem with the American Bully itself. I have a problem when people try to pass it off as an American Pit Bull Terrier. Is it a bully breed? Yes. Is it an APBT? No.

I am not putting down the American Bully. To me, not acknowledging it as the breed it is, is a huge slap in the face to the dog. Why does it have to be an American Pit Bull Terrier? Is an American Bully, not a great dog if it doesn't have that name? No, if it's a good dog, then it's a good dog. But saying because they have the same temperament and the same drive makes them the same breed isn't accurate. A Patterdale Terrier looks a lot like an APBT, it has the same drive, the same temperament, and even has some APBT blood down the line, but it is still a Patterdale Terrier, not an American Pit Bull Terrier. Such is the American Bully.

If I wanted an American Bully, then I'd call it an American Bully. I don't see why it's upsets the American Bully crowd so much. You love your dog, right? Does it matter if it's an APBT or not? It shouldn't. If you love it, then what does it matter it's breed? It's still a bully breed. It still fits in the category.

American Bullies aren't my style of dogs, but if they are yours, then more power to you, own as many as you can take care of and love. I am not telling you to get rid of your dog, or that your dog sucks. If it's a good dog to you, then I am happy to hear it. I just don't see why many people feel the need to call them, APBT, when it's obvious that they aren't. Are they from the same ancestry? Yes, but now they have branched off and are their own breed. You should be proud of that breed, not trying to make it something it's not.

So, American Bully Owners stand tall and proudly call your dogs what they are American Bullies. Don't be ashamed of them. Don't try to make them into something they are not. Be proud of what they are.

Thank you. -CHJ

[seicslybearee]

This is really great! I don't understand why they'd want to call their APBTs either. If you want an ABPT, get an APBT, if you want an American Bully, get an American Bully!

[Beerinkol]

I agree...good post CHJ!

[tpJKhY8Z]

Love it.

[QysnZWB4]

Wonderful CHJ!!! I love it

[Triiooman]

I love it, too! I also don't understand why they want to keep their dogs under the APBT name, and I hear a lot of them calling them "the new age APBT"... but why not distinguish the breed and allow it to have it's own following?

[Drysnyaty]

Amen sista!

I had one in my Pit Bull training class today and the owner was told the dog was an APBT. Has papers and all.

Overall these dogs are wonderful dogs, so, not knocking the ABullies but his particular dog (and this can happen with any breed of course) had sub standard temperament with HA.

Marthina
www.ourpack.org

[gardeniyas]

Some people who own the dogs have no idea and think they do own an APBT what do we do about them? Especially if the dog has papers.

[Gcromqgb]

Could someone post a pic of the two, I am not sure what the diff is..Yeah I am blonde....lol We were told that Rocky is APBT and we have papers. I have pics posted of him so maybe some can tell me if he is APBT....

[JeorgeNoxeref]

Could someone post a pic of the two, I am not sure what the diff is..Yeah I am blonde....lol We were told that Rocky is APBT and we have papers. I have pics posted of him so maybe some can tell me if he is APBT....

Sure here are two pictures to show some of the differences... See the difference? Gr. Ch. Zebo on the top (APBT) PR Juan Gotti on the bottom (Bully)

[Gcromqgb]

Rocky maybe a Bully, His parents were shorter then the first pic. It is hard to tell right now because he is so young,,,,,

[Fdhwzctl]

Some people who own the dogs have no idea and think they do own an APBT what do we do about them? Especially if the dog has papers.

From what I have experienced, they just tell you that you are dumb and that they have papers, so they know more than you. I haven't gotten a very warm "reception" from the American Bully crowd from post like this. Which If I were attacking the breed, I would understand their anger, but I don't feel I bashed the breed at all. I even did a survey once asking if the AKC/UKC/ABDA/AADR all accepted the American Bully into the registries, if they would then call their dogs, American Bullies. I think I got one or two people say "yes". The other options were, "No, other reason", which got the majority of the votes, they kept telling me that they feel their dog is an APBT, and the last option was, "No, I like calling it a pit", and about five people voted for that one.

[BoattyGonm]

Well, from what i have gathered, the American Bullys are targeted by a certain crowd. Most of them seem to be uneducated on health testing, temperments, none of the dogs ever seem to have titles and the owners usually dont know what you mean by the word title. Not all bully owners fit this category and i hate to classify a group of people like that, especially since i am often classified as a typical pit bull owner based on looks alone.

Alot of them actually believe that they have a pit bull, hell i used to think american bullys were pit bulls. Thats all i ever saw around my area and everyone called them pit bulls. It wasnt until i ran across a few pit bull forum that i learned the difference. I also thought it was completly safe and mornal to give them steroids, glad i tuned into the forums right when i got Trouble. When i walk my apbt now, everyone asks me why he is so small and tell me he is not a pit bull. So, they either think they really have a pit bull, or they just use the name because it sells dogs, which most bully owners seem to care very much about.

Anyway, this feels like a losing battle. Its only getting worse. All we can do is keep trying but im pretty much done trying. I get tired of explaining to people and they look at me like im stupid. So i just answer with yes and no, im short and i move on with my life. They can call them whatever they want, i know what my dog is and i know that he is an APBT.

[Inonanialry]

I own 4 APBT. Because one of my pups came out "Bully" or "Bullier" then the rest-who could probably pass for an American Bully, should I just go and shred his UKC papers because of the way he was born and register him with the ABKC? He is PR UKC registered, and just happened to come out bully looking, but I still call him and consider him an APBT, because he is.

But I do know what you are saying-pick a side already

[Fdhwzctl]

There is a difference between a "bullier" looking APBT and an American Bully. At least from what I've seen. The "bullier" APBT look more like Amstaffs to me, then American Bullies.

When I talk about the American Bully, I am talking about dogs like Muggleston, Gotti, Some RE (Some to me are still APBT, ex: Boogie's Nic).

Here are examples of American Bullies.





Not your pup.


I think with these examples you can see the difference.

[Inonanialry]

Gosh I hate the hardware that some of the bully owners use to dress them up.

I guess while on the subject, I do know plenty American Bully owners, and they ARE NOT like the dogs in those pics. believe it or not, alot of AB owners like the cleaner cut American Bully verses those above! Those are way over done.

To each hisown

Thats such a funny pic of my Chocy, he makes me laugh just looking at him sometimes! Gotta know his personality!!!

[Fdhwzctl]

To each hisown

Yeah, I have no problem with people having Am. Bullies, like I already stated, but they just aren't APBT if you ask me.

Thats such a funny pic of my Chocy, he makes me laugh just looking at him sometimes! Gotta know his personality!!!

He reminds me a bit of a chocolate colored Left Foot.

[Inonanialry]

He reminds me a bit of a chocolate colored Left Foot.

[Fdhwzctl]

My pup, I don't know if it's the face or what, but there is just something that makes me think of Left Foot. lol.

[car.insur]

i dont think you could have stated this better CHJ.