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Old 08-28-2012, 02:07 PM   #81
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Probably because for Victoria it has (as stated) a much greater meaning. In the same or similar way that the death of someone close to you (a close relative/partner) would have great meaning/impact on you and most likely no meaning or impact what so ever on most everyone else. Each to their own.

Armstrong's demise is sad but ultimately inevitable.
Essentially this ^

Why question why I'm 'defensive', Kii? How about I question why you need to put down my posts and feelings? Just any opportunity to be a bit nasty, as usual I gather.
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Old 08-28-2012, 02:46 PM   #82
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Private Neil Armstrong service planned for Friday (Update)
August 27, 2012 by Dan Sewell


(AP)—A private service is planned in Cincinnati on Friday for astronaut Neil Armstrong, the first man on the moon.



The Ohio native died Saturday in Cincinnati at age 82. No other information was released immediately about the service, other than that it would be private.

There have been preliminary discussions about a national memorial service for Armstrong, who often shunned publicity in the decades after his historic mission, but a family spokesman said there were no details yet.

U.S. Sen. Rob Portman, who is from Ohio and has called Armstrong "a good friend and adviser," will eulogize him at Friday's service.

Portman is in Tampa, Florida, for the Republican National Convention, where he is scheduled to speak Wednesday night. Spokeswoman Caitlin Dunn said his office is working on travel arrangements to get him back to Cincinnati in time for the service. The convention schedule has already been changed this week and could be further disrupted as Tropical Storm Isaac bears down on the Gulf Coast.


The Museum of Natural History & Science of the Cincinnati Museum Center has an exhibit that includes a moon rock and replicas of Armstrong's Apollo 11 spacesuit and tools used on the moon. It is offering free admission through Labor Day to honor Armstrong, and more than 2,000 people visited Sunday.

Armstrong, who commanded the Apollo 11 moon landing on July 20, 1969, was born in Wapakoneta, in western Ohio. He is celebrated there at the Armstrong Air & Space Museum, which is planning a memorial tribute Wednesday night.

The tribute is called "Wink at the Moon." The statement Armstrong's family released upon his death requested that the public honor his example of service, accomplishment and modesty, adding "and the next time you walk outside on a clear night and see the moon smiling down at you, think of Neil Armstrong and give him a wink."




http://phys.org/news/2012-08-private...ng-friday.html
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Old 08-28-2012, 03:57 PM   #83
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I think it's ok to talk about things in different ways. Things have multiple meanings.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:12 PM   #84
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Language is malleable and some people are more dramatic than others. These functions combined will create interpretive differences.


RIP Armstrong, you were a pioneer with spirit and humility. Good human service.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:41 PM   #85
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Victoria - I have a different POV regarding the death of strangers. BTW - I am not nasty - just realistic.
I give up.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:47 PM   #86
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I personally find it strange that people get so emotionally invested in strangers that they cry when they die. Sure, this guy did things most can only dream of but his passing does not change that fact.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:54 PM   #87
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Victoria - I have a different POV regarding the death of strangers. BTW - I am not nasty - just realistic.
I give up.
Obviously, we're not the same person, ergo, we view things differently. Why you'd choose to confront me about it in this way is rude. And your Facebook 'drama queen eyebrow preening' comment is rude too.

This was the first post on this forum in quite a while, and it's disappointing to be accosted this way.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:59 PM   #88
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Victoria - I have a different POV regarding the death of strangers. BTW - I am not nasty - just realistic.
I give up.
Is ok Kii, I'm the same. Yes its sad that he died, but I'm not personally affected by it.

As you mentioned previously, his legacy lives on... Do people still get upset over the deaths of previous greats in history? Are people still upset that Shakespeare isn't writing anymore?

In a few hundred years, people will still remember who he is and the contributions he made and that's the important bit...
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Old 08-28-2012, 05:26 PM   #89
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What a strange dichotomy is being set up ... people feel what they feel; how they express it is how they express it.

If a stranger's life has intersected with our own private life at some significant point, whether through the media or whatever, then is it realistic for us to feel it when they die.

Public figures I have felt that way about include Dag Hammarskjold, Albert Schweitzer and Faith Bandler. Not because they did anything special for me but because the way they lived their lives / led, seemed to me to be encouraging at times that I needed that encouragement ... and when they died the spirit that their lives illuminated seemed diminished.

Each was human / flawed as well as marvelous ... I'm happy to say I felt sad when I heard of their deaths .. as I will when Nelson Mandela dies, for example.
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Old 08-28-2012, 05:34 PM   #90
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I don't find the passing of NA as particularly tragic, not do I consider him a hero. It was however very sad to see the death of someone involved in such a great achievement.

I wish his family all the very best at this difficult time.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:42 PM   #91
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I don't find the passing of NA as particularly tragic, not do I consider him a hero. It was however very sad to see the death of someone involved in such a great achievement.

I wish his family all the very best at this difficult time.
There would be far more disagreeing with you than agreeing with you I would imagine.
Actually Neil Armstrong would be one agreeing being the reluctant humble hero he was.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
DEFINITION:
a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hero?s=t.
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I do agree though [just as Neil did] that there are literally hundreds that are also heroes, and that he Aldrin and Collins were dependent on...from the cleaner through to the Mechanics and Scientists that made it all go.
But irrespective, like anything in any field, Neil, Aldrin and Collins were destined to be there at the coal face, taking the risks, knowing that they could have been stranded 300,000 kms away with no hope of a rescue.
No wonder Buzz saw the need to give that overbearing obnoxious photographer a good right hook when he did.

Yep, in the minds of most they were true heroes.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:13 PM   #92
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Kii, I left the sssf group. You didn't need to block me on Facebook as well, lol. I'm not angry at you, just standing up for myself. I thought I was being quite polite about it.

And someone gave me negative rep for this thread as well. Charming, I thought I was tactful.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:50 AM   #93
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The three Apollo 11 Astronauts were all born in 1930.....
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:33 AM   #94
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someone should go to the moon and lower the flags to half mast

and sadly I think we don't have any space ships that could go there right now

they would have to be specially built

or am I wrong, can anyone think of any that we might have?

but here is a clip I found that says something about him

http://boingboing.net/2012/08/27/wat...-narrowly.html
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:39 AM   #95
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someone should go to the moon and lower the flags to half mast

and sadly I think we don't have any space ships that could go there right now

they would have to be specially built

or am I wrong, can anyone think of any that we might have?

but here is a clip I found that says something about him

http://boingboing.net/2012/08/27/wat...-narrowly.html
The flag from the first mission blew over in the blast of the lift-off. So, sort of at half mast already.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:49 AM   #96
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someone should go to the moon

Fixed
http://imgur.com/gallery/1PH29
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:37 AM   #97
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someone should go to the moon

Fixed
http://imgur.com/gallery/1PH29
They had almost exactly the same cartoon in the Daily Telegraph here in Sydney.
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:57 AM   #98
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I thought this was a nice touch:

http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-082712a.html

There are very few images of Armstrong on the lunar surface, so Robert has not only given us the few that were taken but also lots of other images featuring Neil Armstrong. I like this one:

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Old 08-29-2012, 03:08 PM   #99
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I really feel like listening to The Police - Walking on the Moon

While walking around on the moon in low gravity after having a few bongs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPwMdZOlPo8
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:57 PM   #100
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From ABC Science ‏@abcscience

StarStuff Podcast: Andy Thomas' tribute to Neil Armstrong #space

http://goo.gl/fb/7JgXE via @abcstarstuff
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