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**QuidQuoPro** · 08-24-2012, 07:10 PM

not advertised is that the 4WD function will not be engaged for more than 1% of the life of the vehicle.

they don't advertise the fact it's got a jack either...

**EmpokemyMok** · 08-24-2012, 07:11 PM

strange definition of a lie...

i agree, but the Red Bull comment is sort of an indirect lie in that it uses the word in a figurative and not literal sense.

**Taunteefrurge** · 08-24-2012, 07:13 PM

they don't advertise the fact it's got a jack either...

don't all new cars have drive flat technology now days...

**ZIZITOPER** · 08-24-2012, 07:13 PM

I mean selling 4WDs by showing them crashing and bashing through a remote and rugged beautiful desert when buying a 4WD is very unlikely to result in that kind of experience makes it a kind of lie.

You're not buying a 4WD; you're buying a lifestyle, a dream, a fantasy of what you CAN do with it.

**jadabaad** · 08-24-2012, 07:14 PM

strange definition of a lie...

Some of them are 2WD, and most are sold with road tyres, not off-road tyres.

**ZwHRoTTn** · 08-24-2012, 07:14 PM

You're not buying a 4WD; you're buying a lifestyle, a dream, a fantasy of what you CAN do with it.

When I pay my money, what do they give me, the car or the fantasy?

**ArrichMer** · 08-24-2012, 07:15 PM

You're not buying a 4WD; you're buying a lifestyle, a dream, a fantasy of what you CAN do with it.

thank you Peggy Olson

**Lxbsvksl** · 08-24-2012, 07:16 PM

**DaleJrGirl** · 08-24-2012, 07:18 PM

The burgers are better at hungry jacks?

**duminyricky** · 08-24-2012, 07:19 PM

When I pay my money, what do they give me, the car or the fantasy?

The car...

**GoodLover** · 08-24-2012, 07:20 PM

The burgers are better at hungry jacks?

correct, they are better at raising your blood lipids...

**Hamucevasiop** · 08-24-2012, 07:20 PM

When I pay my money, what do they give me, the car or the fantasy?

The car... but why do you want the car?

**alex_loudermilk** · 08-24-2012, 07:21 PM

The car...

well to be fair... you buy the car, but are generally sold the fantasy

**gghrdfffhfyj** · 08-24-2012, 07:22 PM

strange definition of a lie...

Yes, perhaps. But maybe humans are just not adapted to thinking about images in the same way they do about verbal statements. I'd say there's a falseness to that image, and it's a knowing and deliberate falseness.

**!!Aaroncheg** · 08-24-2012, 07:22 PM

When you buy a haircut, are you buying some activity with scissors, or an image, a style, a "look"?

**Kk21pwa9** · 08-24-2012, 07:22 PM

The car... but why do you want the car?

status is a powerful motivating factor

**cargo_brad** · 08-24-2012, 07:23 PM

Yes, perhaps. But maybe humans are just not adapted to thinking about images in the same way they do about verbal statements. I'd say there's a falseness to that image, and it's a knowing and deliberate falseness.

I would think that humans take more in from the imagery than they do from verbal or written statements...

**JeremyBalll** · 08-24-2012, 07:24 PM

When you buy a haircut, are you buying some activity with scissors, or an image, a style, a "look"?

I'm buying an activity with scissors...

**StincPriene** · 08-24-2012, 07:26 PM

But maybe humans are just not adapted to thinking about images in the same way they do about verbal statements. I'd say there's a falseness to that image, and it's a knowing and deliberate falseness.

That seems to suggest people are stupid and can't discern between an image and reality...

**cestsennY** · 08-24-2012, 07:26 PM

I would think that humans take more in from the imagery than they do from verbal or written statements...

a picture tells a thousand words...

08-24-2012, 07:10 PM	#21
QuidQuoPro Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 597 Senior Member	not advertised is that the 4WD function will not be engaged for more than 1% of the life of the vehicle. they don't advertise the fact it's got a jack either... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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EmpokemyMok Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 503 Senior Member	strange definition of a lie... i agree, but the Red Bull comment is sort of an indirect lie in that it uses the word in a figurative and not literal sense. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Taunteefrurge Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 408 Senior Member	they don't advertise the fact it's got a jack either... don't all new cars have drive flat technology now days... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-24-2012, 07:13 PM	#24
ZIZITOPER Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 513 Senior Member	I mean selling 4WDs by showing them crashing and bashing through a remote and rugged beautiful desert when buying a 4WD is very unlikely to result in that kind of experience makes it a kind of lie. You're not buying a 4WD; you're buying a lifestyle, a dream, a fantasy of what you CAN do with it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-24-2012, 07:14 PM	#25
jadabaad Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 432 Senior Member	strange definition of a lie... Some of them are 2WD, and most are sold with road tyres, not off-road tyres. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-24-2012, 07:14 PM	#26
ZwHRoTTn Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 419 Senior Member	You're not buying a 4WD; you're buying a lifestyle, a dream, a fantasy of what you CAN do with it. When I pay my money, what do they give me, the car or the fantasy? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-24-2012, 07:15 PM	#27
ArrichMer Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 570 Senior Member	You're not buying a 4WD; you're buying a lifestyle, a dream, a fantasy of what you CAN do with it. thank you Peggy Olson Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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DaleJrGirl Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	The burgers are better at hungry jacks? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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duminyricky Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 464 Senior Member	When I pay my money, what do they give me, the car or the fantasy? The car... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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GoodLover Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 362 Senior Member	The burgers are better at hungry jacks? correct, they are better at raising your blood lipids... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-24-2012, 07:20 PM	#32
Hamucevasiop Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 575 Senior Member	When I pay my money, what do they give me, the car or the fantasy? The car... but why do you want the car? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-24-2012, 07:21 PM	#33
alex_loudermilk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	The car... well to be fair... you buy the car, but are generally sold the fantasy Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-24-2012, 07:22 PM	#34
gghrdfffhfyj Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	strange definition of a lie... Yes, perhaps. But maybe humans are just not adapted to thinking about images in the same way they do about verbal statements. I'd say there's a falseness to that image, and it's a knowing and deliberate falseness. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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!!Aaroncheg Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 460 Senior Member	When you buy a haircut, are you buying some activity with scissors, or an image, a style, a "look"? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-24-2012, 07:22 PM	#36
Kk21pwa9 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 506 Senior Member	The car... but why do you want the car? status is a powerful motivating factor Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-24-2012, 07:23 PM	#37
cargo_brad Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 412 Senior Member	Yes, perhaps. But maybe humans are just not adapted to thinking about images in the same way they do about verbal statements. I'd say there's a falseness to that image, and it's a knowing and deliberate falseness. I would think that humans take more in from the imagery than they do from verbal or written statements... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-24-2012, 07:24 PM	#38
JeremyBalll Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 499 Senior Member	When you buy a haircut, are you buying some activity with scissors, or an image, a style, a "look"? I'm buying an activity with scissors... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-24-2012, 07:26 PM	#39
StincPriene Join Date Dec 2005 Posts 460 Senior Member	But maybe humans are just not adapted to thinking about images in the same way they do about verbal statements. I'd say there's a falseness to that image, and it's a knowing and deliberate falseness. That seems to suggest people are stupid and can't discern between an image and reality... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-24-2012, 07:26 PM	#40
cestsennY Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 390 Senior Member	I would think that humans take more in from the imagery than they do from verbal or written statements... a picture tells a thousand words... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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