[ehib8yPc]

This is an opinion piece that quotes what seems to be reasonable sources.

I understood diesel to be a sound choice for environmental reasons.
Do we manufacture it differently or have I misunderstood?

"
By Carl Pope

August 13, 2012

California can, and should, lead the world in ending the menace of soot and black carbon pollution from diesel engines.

We've all choked on black smoke billowing from diesel trucks and buses.
It's obviously polluting, but what's not obvious is much worse.
Diesel emissions are a major health hazard — cancer causing, in fact.
And they are a big part of the threat to our climate.

Yet cleaning them up is practical, easy and affordable — the rules just need to be enforced.

On June 12, the World Health Organization classified diesel particulate matter (soot) as a Group 1 "known carcinogen," adding it to an ugly list of chemicals that includes asbestos and cigarette smoke. The Environmental Protection Agency estimates that several thousand America ... "

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The newer common-rail engined cars are reasonably clean, I believe. But the older cars & (every?) truck with the old-style injector pump are very definitely not as clean at all.
It would be a fearsomely expensive proposition to phase out all the older trucks, etc, and replace them with the new type of injection system-equipped cars & trucks.
There is an additive I know of though that can help clean up the emissions of the older type engines and it also reduces fuel consumption.
As an example, a diesel train using it to go across the Bight to Perth & back would normally use about 88,000 litres, with the product (okay, I'm part of a group that's trying to sell it) the train proved that the consumption went down to about 77,000 litres and the emissions were over 10% improved.

[ehib8yPc]

The newer common-rail engined cars are reasonably clean, I believe. But the older cars & (every?) truck with the old-style injector pump are very definitely not as clean at all.
It would be a fearsomely expensive proposition to phase out all the older trucks, etc, and replace them with the new type of injection system-equipped cars & trucks.
There is an additive I know of though that can help clean up the emissions of the older type engines and it also reduces fuel consumption.
As an example, a diesel train using it to go across the Bight to Perth & back would normally use about 88,000 litres, with the product (okay, I'm part of a group that's trying to sell it) the train proved that the consumption went down to about 77,000 litres and the emissions were over 10% improved.

Ahhh, thanks Credible Hulk ... that explains it.

My info was based solely around making a decision about buying a NEW vehicle.
Are there rules about (say) all new vehicles being the clean ones?

[DariushPetresku]

"They" say some LPG bled into the inlet manifold above say, 2,000rpm makes a significant difference-but I don't want H2/LPG on or in my vehicle--too damn dangerous.

[xquFzpNw]

but I don't want H2/LPG on or in my vehicle--too damn dangerous.

*raises eyebrow skeptically*

[piramirra]

but I don't want H2/LPG on or in my vehicle--too damn dangerous.

Yet people are prepared to drive around with a liqud that has considerably greater explosive energy than gun powder, just sloshing around uinder their boot.

[DownloadADOBEsoftware]

Ahhh, thanks Credible Hulk ... that explains it.

My info was based solely around making a decision about buying a NEW vehicle.
Are there rules about (say) all new vehicles being the clean ones?

I think the current Aussie rules have the new cars following the Euro5 emissions standards, which are quite clean indeed. So you you wanted to get something like, say, a Volkswagen Polo Bluemotion, you can count on it be quite clean and very frugal.

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"They" say some LPG bled into the inlet manifold above say, 2,000rpm makes a significant difference-but I don't want H2/LPG on or in my vehicle--too damn dangerous.

Ever been in a taxi?

[ehib8yPc]

I think the current Aussie rules have the new cars following the Euro5 emissions standards, which are quite clean indeed. So you you wanted to get something like, say, a Volkswagen Polo Bluemotion, you can count on it be quite clean and very frugal.

Yes. That was the one.
Now have a VW van ... diesel again. LWB something converted to motorhome kind of thing.
Assume the same principle; it was important to me. but very ignorant about even questions to ask.

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Yes. That was the one.
Now have a VW van ... diesel again. LWB something converted to motorhome kind of thing.
Assume the same principle; it was important to me. but very ignorant about even questions to ask.

Do you know if it has common-rail injection?

[ehib8yPc]

Do you know if it has common-rail injection?

Short answer ... no.

Longer answer, NFI


I will look it up tomorrow.
It is just 18 months old if that matters.

[DownloadADOBEsoftware]

Short answer ... no.

Longer answer, NFI


I will look it up tomorrow.
It is just 18 months old if that matters.

It'll be common-rail then.

[ehib8yPc]

It'll be common-rail then.

ok
taa

*feels relieved*

It's so crazy driving around knowing so little


thank and good night.

[nilliraq]

Candles add to the warmth & atmosphere of a home,
but some candles can contribute to an indoor air pollution
problem by emitting particulate matter (candle soot) into
the air. Candle pollution not only discolors the walls, ceilings
and contents of a home it can also contaminate the ventilation
system's ductwork. This is especially true of ducts constructed
from fiberglass "duct-board". It appears that petroleum-based
(paraffin) candles and scented and/or aromatic candles are the
worst offenders. Most candles on the market today are made
from paraffin wax or a blend of paraffin and other waxes.
Paraffin is a derivative of petroleum. When burned they
release carcinogenic toxins such as benzene, toluene,
formaldehyde, acetaldehyde, acrolein and soot into the air.
The emissions from paraffin candles contain many of the
same toxins produced by burning diesel fuel. It is like
starting up a diesel engine inside you home!

[VQdeochratis]

Candles add to the warmth & atmosphere of a home,
but some candles can contribute to an indoor air pollution
problem by emitting particulate matter (candle soot) into
the air. Candle pollution not only discolors the walls, ceilings
and contents of a home it can also contaminate the ventilation
system's ductwork. This is especially true of ducts constructed
from fiberglass "duct-board". It appears that petroleum-based
(paraffin) candles and scented and/or aromatic candles are the
worst offenders. Most candles on the market today are made
from paraffin wax or a blend of paraffin and other waxes.
Paraffin is a derivative of petroleum. When burned they
release carcinogenic toxins such as benzene, toluene,
formaldehyde, acetaldehyde, acrolein and soot into the air.
The emissions from paraffin candles contain many of the
same toxins produced by burning diesel fuel. It is like
starting up a diesel engine inside you home!

LOL, where the hell did you drag that load of crap from.

[DownloadADOBEsoftware]

LOL, where the hell did you drag that load of crap from.

Woo-woo ...... !

[nilliraq]

LOL, where the hell did you drag that load of crap from.
Crap ?


http://www.ehso.com/ehshome/candles2.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0819153913.htm


There's plenty more "crap" where that "crap" came from.

[VQdeochratis]

"They" say some LPG bled into the inlet manifold above say, 2,000rpm makes a significant difference-but I don't want H2/LPG on or in my vehicle--too damn dangerous.

Diesel LPG mix has been around for years. They make diesel engines even more efficient than they already are. The trouble is they worked so well the government removed the rebate from anyone wanting to fit a system to their vehicle.

[VQdeochratis]

Crap ?


http://www.ehso.com/ehshome/candles2.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0819153913.htm


There's plenty more "crap" where that "crap" came from.

You comparing it to Diesel is the crap.Diesel is much cleaner.

[VQdeochratis]

You comparing it to Diesel is the crap.Diesel is much cleaner.

Sorry, it wasn't you it was in the article....if you can call it that.