[Fededorbprago]

I will say this, I did tweet the all mighty and all knowing Dr Karl....

His explanation was gravity.

I then asked the second part to my question... He went totally off the subject and started rambling on about 'conspiracy theories'.

All his responses were direct to me and not open to the public. Its a simple question... I thought science was meant to be openly discussed...

Obviously not when we are talking about WTC7.

[Fededorbprago]

Not all highrise buildings have a huge gaping hole smashed into the side of them to allow huge amounts of air to flow in.

As I said mindless rambling Twoy.....

[arindiruppyr]

I will say this, I did tweet the all mighty and all knowing Dr Karl....

His explanation was gravity.

I then asked the second part to my question... He went totally off the subject and started rambling on about 'conspiracy theories'.

He does that to everyone. It's not your question, it's Dr Karl.

All his responses were direct to me and not open to the public. Its a simple question... I thought science was meant to be openly discussed...

Obviously not when we are talking about WTC7.

If you want to rant on about rigorous science, eyewitness accounts are not scientific evidence. This works both ways, you act like a conspiracy nutter, we'll treat you like one.

[Fededorbprago]

...

If you have something interesting to say, say it.

[Forex Autopilot]

Can you please explain to me, how you think the metal melted as described by the eye-witness accounts you've provided to us?

I am very interested in your theory...

[arindiruppyr]

As I said mindless rambling Twoy.....

No, it's a perfect answer. L_D implied that if the design of the building was to blame for the temperature of the fires, all office fires in highrise buildings should burn this hot. I showed why that's not true.

Mindless rambling is how you go off on tangents about how the building collapsed and Dr Karl's response and then try to tell us to stick to the topic.

[arindiruppyr]

If you have something interesting to say, say it.

I don't have to, you already said it, that's why I quoted you. You want us to stick to the topic, you do the same.

[arindiruppyr]

Can you please explain to me, how you think the metal melted as described by the eye-witness accounts you've provided to us?

I am very interested in your theory...

Yes, this! Where did the molten steel come from ROHZS?

[Fededorbprago]

He does that to everyone. It's not your question, it's Dr Karl.




If you want to rant on about rigorous science, eyewitness accounts are not scientific evidence. This works both ways, you act like a conspiracy nutter, we'll treat you like one.

I asked a simple question.... YOU haven't answered anything. If there is a paper out there other than the NIST report I'd love to read it. The NIST report is inconclusive. And their collapse model, well they wont release the parameters to the initiation.

So send me an email to a person that has done a study which has been 'peer reviewed' and I'd love to read it.

I'm sorry 'gaping holes' hasn't been review by anyone as of yet.

Go to another thread please Twoy your wasting time.

[Fededorbprago]

Can you please explain to me, how you think the metal melted as described by the eye-witness accounts you've provided to us?

I am very interested in your theory...

Its a question not a theory, there's a difference.

Go to another thread if your not going to try and answer the question.

[arindiruppyr]

I asked a simple question.... YOU haven't answered anything.

I'm the only one who did try to answer your question. If that's how you react to it, then please feel free to go away.

Try learning at the very least some basic science before you come back.

[Plulpangepler]

What an absolute load of bollocks.

I'm quite amused, which part do you think is "bollocks"? Everything written is a matter of fact.

Apart from having fully fuelled planes smash into them? Are you just ignoring the facts that don't agree with your imaginings?

Ooooh sounds bad, but the truth is that the plane fuel burned off in the first 5 to 10 minutes. Everyone, nist and fema included, agrees on that (apart from "debunkers").

People made it past the fire floors in one tower, firefighters made it to the fire floors and reported moderate fires, someone even took thermal images that show moderate fires.

But just have a look at the images and videos for yourself, do you think all those images showing thick black smoke and very little fire are photo shopped?

Mandarin fire, now that's an inferno


Close upf the one of the towers right where the plane hit and where Twoys gaping hole is for the oxygen supply



Now I am off to golf.

[Forex Autopilot]

Its a question not a theory, there's a difference.

Go to another thread if your not going to try and answer the question.

Well if you could give me something to work with - like your conjectures? your hypothosis?

It seems to me you aren't interested in having your question answered, you just want to stir up trouble.

can YOU go away to another forum please?

[moopogyOvenny]

Now I am off to golf.

Careful not to miss the putt. You never know whose building you could knock down.

[Forex Autopilot]

Question:

How much of our assumptions about this sort of thing are based on "hollywood" physics?

[piramirra]

I'm quite amused, which part do you think is "bollocks"? Everything written is a matter of fact.

No, what i quoted was a matter of opinion of the poster. And it was a load of bollocks. Writing something doesn't make it a fact.

[moopogyOvenny]

Question:

How much of our assumptions about this sort of thing are based on "hollywood" physics?

I do know this much.. The MythBusters haven't touched it with a barge pole, as of yet.

[CtEkM8Vq]

Ok.

There were uncontrolled fires in a semi-enclosed space with a large air inlet to provide lots of fresh oxygen. It got really hot in there and metal melted.

What's the problem?

[moopogyOvenny]

Ok.

There were uncontrolled fires in a semi-enclosed space with a large air inlet to provide lots of fresh oxygen. It got really hot in there and metal melted.

What's the problem?

Well you know, as I do that with the throat open.. there is no shortageof hotair.

[Fededorbprago]

Ok I have read the NIST report.
I have reviewed the NIST model for the initiation of the collapse.
The report leaves out all the witness testimony and the model looks nothing at all like the collapse itself.
I would also like to know how 'free fall' speeds are achieved in a fire fueled collapse, all the way to the ground.
So if you know of someone who has done an independent study and it can be emailed to me I would love to read it.
Not there was a huge hole in the building which created a hotter than normal fire.
That will always get a negative response.