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Old 09-10-2011, 12:30 AM   #1
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Default 2011 US Open Day 13 OoP & Discussion
Arthur Ashe Stadium 12:00 PM

Men's Singles - Semifinals
Novak Djokovic(SRB)[1] vs. Roger Federer(SUI)[3]

Not Before:2:45 PM
Men's Singles - Semifinals
Andy Murray(GBR)[4] vs. Rafael Nadal(ESP)[2]

Arthur Ashe Stadium 7:00 PM
Women's Singles - Semifinals
Caroline Wozniacki(DEN)[1] vs. Serena Williams(USA)[28]

Men's Doubles - Finals
Jurgen Melzer(AUT)[9]/Philipp Petzschner(GER)[9] vs. Mariusz Fyrstenberg(POL)[6]/Marcin Matkowski(POL)[6]


Grandstand 6:00 PM
Women's Singles - Semifinals
Angelique Kerber(GER) vs. Samantha Stosur(AUS)[9]
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Old 09-10-2011, 01:39 AM   #2
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I'm sure there are a dozen really good excuses for this particular schedule. But every time I see the "non-marquee" match over on Grandstand, I keep thinking of Leona Helmsley's remark about "the little people". I'm guessing Armstrong isn't playable still, so Grandstand isn't the insult. The exclusion from the big stage is the insult. All Grand Slam semi-finals should be equally valued. Not so here. But heck, it's a newcomer and an Australian, so why should we care. Well, I do, and assuming there's a livestream I'll watch every minute of that match.
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Old 09-10-2011, 01:46 AM   #3
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Stusur is not happy about it
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Old 09-10-2011, 02:09 AM   #4
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I'm sure there are a dozen really good excuses for this particular schedule. But every time I see the "non-marquee" match over on Grandstand, I keep thinking of Leona Helmsley's remark about "the little people". I'm guessing Armstrong isn't playable still, so Grandstand isn't the insult. The exclusion from the big stage is the insult. All Grand Slam semi-finals should be equally valued. Not so here. But heck, it's a newcomer and an Australian, so why should we care. Well, I do, and assuming there's a livestream I'll watch every minute of that match.
I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the women having to play the very next day. The matches are starting only a hour apart from each other. If they were on the same court and the first match was a blitz and the second was grueling, the winner of the second might be at a disadvantage the next day.

(But it's most likely about selling tickets.)
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Old 09-10-2011, 02:18 AM   #5
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It wouldn't bother me as much if the Men's Doubles final wasn't also on Ashe.

This is the only weekend match that's not on Ashe.

I think it's disrespectful and a slap in the face to both Kerber and Stosur.
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Old 09-10-2011, 02:34 AM   #6
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I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the women having to play the very next day. The matches are starting only a hour apart from each other. If they were on the same court and the first match was a blitz and the second was grueling, the winner of the second might be at a disadvantage the next day.

(But it's most likely about selling tickets.)
#factor according USTA http://twitter.com/#!/USATgolftennis...94633459032064

"These factors included programming for US Open ticket holders, competitive fairness for players, and the existing television window ..."
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Old 09-10-2011, 02:41 AM   #7
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I'm sure we all have our own ideas of how the program for Saturday should have been set up -- but we're not in charge of that, the USTA organizers are, and it's set.

I agree that the two women's SF should be run as nearly concurrently as possible, in fairness to all four of the ladies. However I would have scheduled them before the men's matches, since the men have Sunday off, and the women have to play on Sunday.

Just my two cents' worth.
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Old 09-10-2011, 04:25 AM   #8
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It wouldn't bother me as much if the Men's Doubles final wasn't also on Ashe.

This is the only weekend match that's not on Ashe.

I think it's disrespectful and a slap in the face to both Kerber and Stosur.
Co-sign. As it is also grossly unfair not to have the winner of Kerber/Stosur also have the opportunity to play their SF on Center Court and get more used to this court during such an important occasion- giving yet another advantage (as if she needs another advantage) to Serena or the Blonde.
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Old 09-10-2011, 07:27 AM   #9
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I don't think Kerber or Stosur have played on Ashe all tournament.

This scheduling is bs.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:02 AM   #10
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I don't think Kerber or Stosur have played on Ashe all tournament.

This scheduling is bs.
They haven't
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:16 PM   #11
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I'm sure we all have our own ideas of how the program for Saturday should have been set up -- but we're not in charge of that, the USTA organizers are, and it's set.

I agree that the two women's SF should be run as nearly concurrently as possible, in fairness to all four of the ladies. However I would have scheduled them before the men's matches, since the men have Sunday off, and the women have to play on Sunday.

Just my two cents' worth.
I would have put the women's on first as well, but for different logic. Murray/Nadal will have played three consecutive days whereas the women have had a day off. But maybe the reverse of that is that you wouldn't want to necessarily give them a very late night match, either.

I dunno. Everything will make someone unhappy. I tend not to question the scheduling for that reason. (Other than the extended first round thing).
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:14 PM   #12
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Raining now in ny?
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:17 PM   #13
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Raining now in ny?
you expect nice weather?
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:18 PM   #14
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The US Open is being punished for excessive hubris
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:21 PM   #15
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I dare them to solve this rain problem by putting one of the men's matches on Grandstand.
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:22 PM   #16
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The women should have played last night, one after another, on Ashe. It would have been the most fair to all involved, and would have provided a cushion against the rain that WAS IN the forecast for today.

I'm sure they didn't do this because there was no originally scheduled evening match for last night, but their lack of flexibility, yes, hubris, ostrich mentality, and just plain old greed is astounding.

They're getting everything they deserve. I feel bad for the players, and us.
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:36 PM   #17
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I dare them to solve this rain problem by putting one of the men's matches on Grandstand.
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:38 PM   #18
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There is no problem so far really. Even with no more play today (unlikely) we can still have a Monday finish for both sides.

By the way the record is third Wednesday (Wimbledon 1922).
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:40 PM   #19
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I dare them to solve this rain problem by putting one of the men's matches on Grandstand.
Love it!

However, dare I say that if one of the men's semi included Almagro/Mannarino they would have already scheduled it for the parking lot.
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:43 PM   #20
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I don't think Kerber or Stosur have played on Ashe all tournament.

This scheduling is bs.
Stosur was scheduled for Ashe, but that was the match with Kirilenko that was moved to Grandstand.

The second women's semi won't start till 8 pm (even though schedule says 7 pm), so at least they might get a full stadium if it stops raining
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