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UK's muslim problem.

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The british were ok with harboring and giving refuge to the dregs of humanity as long as they spoke, organized, raised funds and hurled vitriol at jews, bombed buses, trains and generally slaughtered jews. Hindus too.

Suddenly, their own ar$es are on fire as this deluge of hatred is now turning against them. And MI5 is just realizing it.

A must read for this issue is "eurabia" and "londonistan."

Hi ShimonG.
That is a very Harsh statement against the very nation that was responsible for the jews return to their homeland,Yes the Uk goverments Have wrongly used other nations in the Past,But for the Last 60years that I have been around The jewish people have had the backing of the British people and still do.
All the best.
Rex

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Are you kidding me?

British refused entry of palestine to thousands of jews during ww2,condemning them to death

British gave 70 percent of palestine to elmir abdallah,subsequently becoming jordan
Same year,you exchanged golan heights for mosul area with the french
you always have been a thorn in our feet

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Also, simply put, many Christians have a very deep antisemitism anyway. The Gospels are clearly anti-Jewish slant and place the blame of Jesus's death on the Jews, even though it was the Romans who killed him. The Romans then went on to become Christians so the Gospels, (written many years after the events) are very biased against the Jews.

Actually, I hear Jesus was an anti-semite.

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Some do but many Christians don't. The Church if England is involved in boycotts against companies like Caterpiller whose constuction machines are used to bulldoze buildings in Gaza and the West Bank. Many Christians are liberal lefties and will support the Palestinians against Israel.

I agree. Although I would prefer to say that many Gentiles are anti-semitic and that most "christians" are not. The Left is not too happy with Israel at the moment. I haven't seem them go against Diaspora Jews however. Are they going against Jews or Israelis in the UK?

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Hi again
This is all news to me,The people I live and have worked with in the uk support Israel,please let the muslims quote the past.I would say most people of the christian faith supports Israel.And I will agree 60years ago the UK was as devious as any country could be,now we have gone the other way.
Regards Rex

I agree. But that won't do you any good. It is a semite trait to vividly remember sins of the past...both Muslim and Jew. Therefore you are responsible for Hitler, the Crusades, Jesus and probably the Flood to some http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...smiley-001.gif

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Do you ever actually read the UK Jewish press like the Jewish Chronicle? If you did then you'd read of countless attacks on Jewish cemetaries, Jewish schools, synagogues, etc. Every synagogue in the UK needs profesional security advice and guards protecting it.

The big difference between Muslims and Jews in Europe/US; and I am generalizing a bit, is that the Muslims would arm themselves and kill the bad guys. The Jews hire a security guard. That is a good reason why everyone is afraid of Muslims. The Jews should try a bit of Muslim strategy. Cut off a few heads in those countless attacks and see what happens.

The Jews above all others should understand the term "never trust a government to protect you."

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There's a whole list of unions and groups that are trying to boycott Israel and Jews who support Israel in the UK. There's the union of teachers, the union of university lecturers, the union of architects to name but a few. I mentioned the Church of England's divestment from companies like Caterpiler. There have been many problems with anti-Israel rhetoric on university campuses.

As for the media, the newspapers the Guardian and the Independant are becoming hysterically anti-Israel. These are the fashionable, trendy newspapers, especially the Guardian and they influence a lot of people in Britain; the kind of people who are policy makers, managers and leaders.

Hi Aviva
Well I am shocked at what you say,but as I dont live in london and read newspaper.as I dont trust what they say,I get my news of this screen I am now looking at,But your comments are very anti uk but you must remember that all people do not think or act the same,but when you make a post like you have,you are more likely to turn the supporter of Israel away,But as they say it takes all kinds to make a world.
I wish you all the best
Rex

I think the end of the Left's affair with Israel goes back to 1956. When Israel effectively told the Soviet Bloc to sod off and then joined the French and English in un-nationalizing the Suez Canal the left in the west decided that Israel was an enemy. The so called golden age of liberal tolerant acceptance of the Israel I think was imaginary - it never existed. Here in the west at any rate liberal Jewish involvement in socially progressive movements was a strictly internal matter - like the US Civil Rights movement. At the time there was actually some hesitation among Jewish groups that their involvement in the Civil Rights movement would hurt them in Washington vis a vis Israel. By the late 60's with the rise of militant black movements in the US like the Black Panthers and the NoI the break between the radical left and the Jews was obvious. That's when Jews started moving rightward.

Now as far as the left's abhorrence for all things religious - we have to pick our way through that carefully. Who spearheaded the antiwar movement? Liberal Catholics? Who spearheads the 'targeted' human rights movements in Africa? Liberal Protestant churches. Who helps them? Liberal nominally religious Jews. Clearly the left has staked out a position that religion is an evil thing, unless of course it suits them to work with leftist religious groups. So perhaps it's just a kind of methodical pragmatism. Maybe it has more to do with the difference between expressions of faith and the use of the philosophy of religion for political goals. Who of really knows anything of the Dalai Lama's personal religious beliefs for instance?