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Covert services cannot win wars...

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The death rate in the US from al qAeda terrorists is less than the death rate from lawn mower accidents.http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/lolers.gif

But the perceived death rate and the hysteria rate and the fear mongering rate is much, much, much higher. Many Americans would characterize the jihadi threat as equal to that of the Nazis who had one of the world's largest standing armies, controlled steel production, had the best scientists and engineers in the world and for a time the most effective airforce. The ability to regularly set of bombs in Baghdad markets is seen as equal to the ability to aerial bomb central London on a daily basis.

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Data please? Oh that's right, you have stated you don't need actual facts to believe what you want to believe.

What's that? That Al Qaida haven't killed six million Jews and marched an army through Paris and caused the entire population of London to hide underground as they aerial bombed pretty much at will? How they've terrorized the North Sea with their U-Boats, cutting transport to Europe to a crawl? Clue me in. I must have missed that story. To anyone not as deluded as you are, the difference between the threat of the Nazis and the threat of AQ is obvious. This conflict is in no way comparable, its goals are no way similar and the scale and impact of the required solution will not compare.

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A well-known rule of Internet discourse is Godwin's law, which states that, as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches inevitability.

Let me propose Nyhan's corollary: As a foreign policy debate with conservatives grows longer, the probability of a comparison with the appeasement of Nazis or Hitler approaches inevitability.

The Bush Administration has launched its latest PR offensive to boost support for the increasingly unpopular war in Iraq. But the rhetoric is familiar: an attempt to raise the specter of appeasement, starting with Donald Rumsfeld's speech to the American Legion Tuesday, in which he quoted Sen. William Borah saying "Lord, if only I had talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided!" after hearing of Germany's invasion of Poland in 1939. (Meanwhile, Rumsfeld barely mentioned Iraq until the last 500 words of the speech.) And today, in his speech to the Legion, President Bush described Islamic terrorists as the "successors to Fascists, to Nazis, to Communists, and other totalitarians of the 20th century."

. http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...515951,00.html

So stop bringing the Nazi's up. This is very typical of you. YOU bring up the comparison with Nazi's, I ask for data, you don't provide any, I call you on it and now you state that it is just a shame that the conversation turned to a Nazi comparison!

It just goes to show what a vacuous, unsupportable, twisted, and perverted postion you have. You are wholly incapable fo even starting to defend your position, so you just change the subject. Thanks for showing your stunning incompetence and feebleness for all to see.