[Roxanjbra]

The problem: How can we continue to do business as usual in Egypt ?


S-man (according to reports) seems to be a carbon copy of MU-B

However "acceptable" to U.S. and Israel*

Not however completely (if at all) acceptable to the Egyptian People. (they want to clean house)

MU-B jolts everyone by more or less saying he is going to hold on.

S-man is cast in the (pre arranged) roll of forcing him our of the country

S-man is the "Hero" and becomes acceptable to the populous.

All involved get a big bonus and live happily ever after.

* The quasi bankers of the world !

[JakilSong]

I think Egypt is headed for another election. ElBaradei will probably be the next legitimate president.

[nicegirlflor]

I think Egypt is headed for another election. ElBaradei will probably be the next legitimate president.

Well, ...that simplifies things.

One election, ...then Islamo-fascism.

(followed by loud noises and a lot of new glass...)

[Essefsbyday]

Well, ...that simplifies things.

One election, ...then Islamo-fascism.

(followed by loud noises and a lot of new glass...)

Why the irrational fear?

[euylvaygdq]

Why the irrational fear?

ElBaradei is a denier... like the original Iranian Democratic Party was...

...and so as such will likely turn out the same.


Got glass...?

[ådrrraj]

ElBaradei is a denier... like the original Iranian Democratic Party was...

...and so as such will likely turn out the same.


Got glass...?

Denier of what? So far as I've seen, ElBaradei is a moderate. I don't think he's anything like the Muslim Brotherhood.

[Ehlgamxf]

Denier of what? So far as I've seen, ElBaradei is a moderate. I don't think he's anything like the Muslim Brotherhood.

As were the Iranians, ...and the Turks.

Unless they are hard-line anti-Muslim Brotherhood... they will be co-opted or consumed.

Right now, the Muslim Brotherhood IS the organized opposition.

Regardless of the yahoos in the streets of Cairo... 60% to 85% of Egyptians out of Cairo are fundamentalist Muslim and are for Sharia Law, ...including death to all apostates, cutting the hands off thieves, and the segregation of women in the workplace.

If they have a seat at the table... Egypt as a free Republic is unicorn spit.

[QbCp7LaZ]

As were the Iranians, ...and the Turks.

Unless they are hard-line anti-Muslim Brotherhood... they will be co-opted or consumed.

Right now, the Muslim Brotherhood IS the organized opposition.

Regardless of the yahoos in the streets of Cairo... 60% to 85% of Egyptians out of Cairo are fundamentalist Muslim and are for Sharia Law, ...including death to all apostates, cutting the hands off thieves, and the segregation of women in the workplace.

If they have a seat at the table... Egypt as a free Republic is unicorn spit.

Seems like you're a BIG supporter of Democracy, right???
But you see, democracy is not "what YOU want to happen!" it is what "the majority of people in a country want to happen!"

If Egypt wants a Muslim regime, even with Sharia law. .that is THEIR business. . . not ours!


But I trust that they have had enough contact, and are familiar enough with Europe that they would NOT want a fundamental Muslim regime. . .although they would probably (hopefully) include Muslims, and Christians, and Atheists in their elected government!

And . . .if you don't like it, and if you don't think it "serves the U.S. interests and/or the Israeli interests" well. . . that's too bad!
You certainly don't want Iran to tell the U.S. how to function. . why would you want US to tell Egypt or any other countries in the Middle East how to function???

Get over it!

[gennickhif]

It will all come down to who decides who is on the ballot.

If its the Army, and it appears they call the shots, if they know who butters their bread (US), they will keep the Muslim Brotherhood off the ballot.

[Flankrene]

As were the Iranians, ...and the Turks.

Unless they are hard-line anti-Muslim Brotherhood... they will be co-opted or consumed.

Right now, the Muslim Brotherhood IS the organized opposition.

Regardless of the yahoos in the streets of Cairo... 60% to 85% of Egyptians out of Cairo are fundamentalist Muslim and are for Sharia Law, ...including death to all apostates, cutting the hands off thieves, and the segregation of women in the workplace.

If they have a seat at the table... Egypt as a free Republic is unicorn spit.

Might happen. And we care because?

But Sadanie is right. Sometimes you can't put toothpaste back in the tube.

The days of the old rules is dead or dying in the Middle East. The bell of change has been rung in the Middle East and that bell will continue to ring.
Even Iran is in the process of change. It may take 20 more years, but its happening. We can't rush the process.

[Nashhlkq]

As were the Iranians, ...and the Turks.

Unless they are hard-line anti-Muslim Brotherhood... they will be co-opted or consumed.

Right now, the Muslim Brotherhood IS the organized opposition.

Regardless of the yahoos in the streets of Cairo... 60% to 85% of Egyptians out of Cairo are fundamentalist Muslim and are for Sharia Law, ...including death to all apostates, cutting the hands off thieves, and the segregation of women in the workplace.

If they have a seat at the table... Egypt as a free Republic is unicorn spit.

Again, you didn't answer my question. Denier of what? The only thing I could find that would be relevant to your accusation is that some people are claiming the agency he was heading was withholding information about Iran's nuclear program. So far, I haven't seen any evidence that they were.

If you have evidence to back up these accusations, please provide them.

As for the accusations about the average Egyptian, I'd like to see your evidence for those too.

[budumol]

Well, ...that simplifies things.

One election, ...then Islamo-fascism.

(followed by loud noises and a lot of new glass...)

WTF is "Islamofacism?" (Other than a rightwingblogger/FoxNoise mental masturbation trigger word)

[Ifroham4]

Regardless of the yahoos in the streets of Cairo... 60% to 85% of Egyptians out of Cairo are fundamentalist Muslim and are for Sharia Law, ...including death to all apostates, cutting the hands off thieves, and the segregation of women in the workplace.

Even if you're right, Saudi Arabia is already that way and the US is still on relatively solid relations with them.

Not every country will turn out like Iran. Iran's theocracy's days - in its present form - are numbered as well, the recent uprising which got zero support from bush was just the start.

[zatronanec]

WTF is "Islamofacism?" (Other than a rightwingblogger/FoxNoise mental masturbation trigger word)

Just like normal fascism, only on behalf of Islam.

[Retapleapse]

Just like normal fascism, only on behalf of Islam.

So, any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism, such as German National Socialism; any right-wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism? (thanks to World English Dictionary).

Please, show me some Italian Fascist-inspired Islamic leaders.

[LottiFurmann]

Just like normal fascism, only on behalf of Islam.

Please help me understand that thought better. I am never to clear on what fascism is, anyway, but then adding religion into it leaves me with a cloudy understanding of your point.

[tLO0hFNy]

Part one of my prediction has basically commenced IMO money has changed hands.

Suleiman is favored by the U.S. and Israel but what is his status ? Has he resigned as well or are the people so ecstatic over the army take over and the removal of Mubarak they've forgotten all about him ?

Will the people actually enjoy a better life under the next leader.

Will Israel be under even more pressure and concern over their chances of facing a more united and militarily enhanced Arab nations Or

Has the tide been stemmed right people bought off and the status quo once again in place ?

[tickerinet]

I am very interested in what part of the government is left intact. Even though Mubarak 'dismissed' them, I have a tendency to believe some may be left. I am tempted to email the person I know in the ministry of health with some generic message. I just don't want to get hauled to Gitmo, and these days that isn't a certainty.

[ProomoSam]

All that the Egyptians have secured for themselves at this point is the opportunity to determine their future for themselves. It is not a small thing but it is also not a "great" thing at this point. I have yet to see a plan for the future of Egypt and the Egyptian people. I wish them the best and pray that they are wise and strong because the road before them will not be easy.

[smokeberly]

Seems like you're a BIG supporter of Democracy, right???
But you see, democracy is not "what YOU want to happen!" it is what "the majority of people in a country want to happen!"

If Egypt wants a Muslim regime, even with Sharia law. .that is THEIR business. . . not ours!


But I trust that they have had enough contact, and are familiar enough with Europe that they would NOT want a fundamental Muslim regime. . .although they would probably (hopefully) include Muslims, and Christians, and Atheists in their elected government!

And . . .if you don't like it, and if you don't think it "serves the U.S. interests and/or the Israeli interests" well. . . that's too bad!
You certainly don't want Iran to tell the U.S. how to function. . why would you want US to tell Egypt or any other countries in the Middle East how to function???

Get over it!

You think they're dealin' with stray kittens over there...?

Iran had a majority educated westernized population that included the Muslim Brotherhood as a minor minority voice for solidarity...

...how'd that work out. That Nation is now enslaved under Tyranny. It will now take countless lives, blood, and treasure to free them.

They were already free, save for mensa candidate thinkers like you.

Turkey...? how's that goin'...?


Egypt has nothing like what Iran had save its Military.

Iran had a pretty good Military too... until they shot almost everyone over the rank of Captain. Then they fed the rest to the Iraqis...

How do you think Israel will treat what's left of Egypt's Officer Corps, ...and all our Military hardware we gave'em, ...when the Muslim Brotherhood sends them over there...?