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Old 06-07-2010, 01:30 AM   #1
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Default Revolutionary Guard will escort ships?
This could be good. I hope they try it. I',m sure the Israelis would love to get Iranians in their sights. The Iranians have been attacking Israel through proxies for years. Are they finally going to step up and show themselves? We shall see.

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Old 07-06-2010, 11:23 AM   #2
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Israel would blow any ships carrying Iranian troops out of the water if they tried to run the blockade.
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:00 PM   #3
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I love how they say theyre ready, not that they committed to it. As usual Iran is all talk.
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:33 PM   #4
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exactly, Iran is all talk, I doubt they even have a nuke.
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:54 PM   #5
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I doubt this will happen. I would like to think Iran is not that stupid.
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Old 07-06-2010, 01:11 PM   #6
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exactly, Iran is all talk, I doubt they even have a nuke.
I dont know if that have a usable bomb, but dont doubt they have weapons grade uranium.
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Old 07-06-2010, 02:19 PM   #7
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Iran, like North Korea, can probably make a "bomb", but it won't be a nuke in the sense that we understand it. More like a combination dirty bomb/conventional bomb. North Korea still hasn't proved they actually have the know-how to make a real nuke and I doubt Iran does either.

As for their talk about the Guard, Iran doesn't need to send the Revolutionary Guard anywhere. Hezbollah and Hamas all but wear Iranian uniforms already. Those are Iran's armies, they can just use them.
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Old 07-06-2010, 02:27 PM   #8
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Israel would blow any ships carrying Iranian troops out of the water if they tried to run the blockade.
IMO Israels course is one of self destruction via "Perfidy" Not invasion.

perfidy - definition of perfidy by the Free Online Dictionary ...
Deliberate breach of faith; calculated violation of trust; treachery: "the fink, whose perfidy was equaled only by his gall" (Gilbert Millstein). ...
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Old 07-06-2010, 02:35 PM   #9
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exactly, Iran is all talk, I doubt they even have a nuke.
Today...

But... the moment they have one, where do you think they will send it?

Tens of thousands of Israelis will die.
Hundreds of thousands Arabs... that just happen to be there... 'in the way' will die.

Millions more Persians will die in the retaliation strike.

To 'kill all the Jews' Iran will kill hundreds of thousands of their 'brothers and sister' Arabs, and end their own nation as a functioning government.
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Old 07-06-2010, 03:00 PM   #10
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IMO Israels course is one of self destruction via "Perfidy" Not invasion.

perfidy - definition of perfidy by the Free Online Dictionary ...
Deliberate breach of faith; calculated violation of trust; treachery: "the fink, whose perfidy was equaled only by his gall" (Gilbert Millstein). ...
Who have they betrayed?
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Old 07-06-2010, 03:42 PM   #11
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you folks are missing the point, they will garner advantage for NOT doing what they never intended to do. Headline; "Iran exhibits Patience,will work with UN on Gaza crisis"...see? they play chess, we play checkers.
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Old 07-06-2010, 04:05 PM   #12
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I dont know if that have a usable bomb, but dont doubt they have weapons grade uranium.
I doubt it.
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:24 PM   #13
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Khomeni offered the Rev. Gurads naval forces to accompany aid ship; Hamas rejected Iran's offer. Hamas explained that they are not looking for an escalation or military support.

Another Iran advertisement or marketing campaign, esp. in regards to the growing popularity of the elected gov't of Turkey.
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:37 PM   #14
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North Korea still hasn't proved they actually have the know-how to make a real nuke and I doubt Iran does either.
North Korea has already detonated 2 nukes.

2009 North Korean nuclear test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 09-06-2010, 12:13 PM   #15
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I'm aware of those weak ass detonations.
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Old 09-06-2010, 06:30 PM   #16
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Khomeni offered the Rev. Gurads naval forces to accompany aid ship; Hamas rejected Iran's offer. Hamas explained that they are not looking for an escalation or military support.
Is this some kind of joke? Hamas is an Iranian proxy. I agree with Imperator on this one, in fact I don't see any other way to interpret things.

Iran is making the US out as a fool, and has been since the 80s. Sometimes I can't help but think Bush II must have been a Revolutionary Guard plant, as everything he did was exactly what Iran wanted us to do. Obama is just following the same course too, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was on the Iranian payroll as well.
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:27 PM   #17
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Is this some kind of joke? Hamas is an Iranian proxy. I agree with Imperator on this one, in fact I don't see any other way to interpret things.
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Hamas announced last week that it consents to finding a solution through peaceful negotiations, and that it would be willing to accept a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders. They also rejected Iran's offer of sending aid ships accompanied by Rev. Guard. They also expressed their will to negotiate with the U.S.

can you pls show proof that Hamas currently is taking direct orders from Iran?

Iran is currenty being besieged politically by int'l community including Arab states.
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Old 10-06-2010, 03:21 PM   #18
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Iran is not that stupid to get involved with any direct confrontation. Israel is strangling itself with its own hands.... let it do what it does best... murdering civilians!!.

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Old 10-06-2010, 05:43 PM   #19
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Reverse flottila.
Interesting idea.
I hope they pull it off.

Student Union chairman Boaz Torporovsky, who has been leading the reverse flotilla charge, told The Jerusalem Post on Monday, “Hundreds of people have volunteered for the flotilla, and many more are contacting us all the time for ways they can help.

“Our plan is to deliver much-needed humanitarian assistance to the Kurds of Turkey, who by the way outnumber Israelis and Palestinians combined,” he said.

“And to show that Turkey has its own issues when it comes to the treatment of its minorities, which they should consider before criticizing us.”

Torporovsky added that the National Student Union members had two separate flotilla ideas, both of which they hoped to embark on soon. The first was a flotilla of private yachts that would head out to sea if additional Gaza-bound flotillas entered Israeli waters.

“We would like to greet them at sea,” he said. “And explain to them, peacefully – we don’t want any violence – what it is that’s really going on here.

We’d like to show them the truth and help them understand that the reality here is not what they’ve been told.”

Torporovsky said that many yacht owners had already volunteered for that phase of the plan, and that he and his colleagues were preparing for the arrival of a number of Gaza-bound ships, of European or even Iranian origin.

The second phase of the National Student Union members’ flotilla plan would be the more ambitious journey to Turkey, though Torporovsky admitted they were hard-pressed when it came to funding it.

“We need three things to pull this part off,” he said.

“Money, logistical support and balls – and we’ve got the last two things covered.

“But it’s here that we really get into the shameless hypocrisy of the Turks, because while they criticize us day and night, they are oppressing the Kurds and silencing the world when it comes to recognition of the Armenian Genocide.”

Torporovsky said his group had already found a captain for the vessel, a retired Israel Navy sailor, but the ship itself was proving harder to acquire.

“It’s not easy to find a large, sea-bound vessel,” he said.

“But we’re looking, and we’re raising funds, and as soon as we’re able to do it, we will.”

But the reverse-flotilla talk hasn’t stopped there.

Another sea-bound venture is being organized in an effort to draw attention to Turkey’s own controversial policies – this time to Cyprus, to “call for an end to the Turkish occupation” of the island’s northern half – and is being organized by Meretz activist Pinchas Har-Zahav, and his son Haim, who has also signed on for the voyage.

The group is also set to include Alex Goldfarb, who was an MK with the Tzomet and Yiud parties from 1992 to 1996, and is being subsidized by an unnamed wealthy Israeli.

Speaking to the Post on Monday, Haim Har-Zahav said the goal of the voyage was to “remind the world that Turkey is not innocent.

“If Uruguay or Iceland were the ones criticizing us so harshly, it might be a different story,” he said. “But we’re talking about a country that only seven years after [the Six Day War and the beginning of Israeli control of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank] began occupying Cyprus.

“We’re talking about a country that has systematically killed the Kurds and refuses to acknowledge their role in the Armenian Genocide,” he said.

“And so no, we will not accept this. The hypocrisy has to stop here.”

Har-Zahav added that the ship’s passengers were not looking for a violent confrontation and if told to turn back, they would.

“But we feel that it’s important for us to show and remind the world that Turkey is not a righteous country, but a near-rogue state, and that we, the Israeli people, are not suckers.”

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Old 10-07-2010, 04:08 AM   #20
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Silly people. Don't they know that the world has very little interest in the Kurds, Tibetans, or any other stateless peoples? The only tragedy worth their time is the problem of several million Arabs who don't have yet another Arab state.
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