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Old 08-29-2012, 11:31 PM   #21
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I agree with Alma, rocheteau, that Republicans haven't lost their love for the military-indutrial establishment. But, as I said before, I think that they are mainily opposed to intervention in Libya and Syria because it distracts from attention given to their big bete noir, Iran. Some history:

We probably all know by now that the US and England overthrew the only elected Muslim democracy in the Mid-East in 1953 when the CIA and MI 6 overthrew the government of Dr. Mohammed Mossedegh in Iran and installed the Shah.

In 1979 there was an Iranian revolution sparked by a student rebellion, civil disobedience, and riots, and the US puppet Shah fled to the US. Then, Irainian students took US employees at the US Embassy hostage, demanding the Shah's money back, and that he and his SAVAK secret police be tried for crimes against humanity, creating the "Iranian hostage crisis," that went on for months.
Iranian Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, here's the case against Iran:

1. The Pentagon and State Department still resent the Iranians kicking out their guy.

2. The Iranians are now a relatively wealthy Mid-East country which wants to develop nuclear weapons to neutralize Israel's nuclear trump card (Or to do evil, depending on your viewpoint.)

3. Iran now buys its weapons from Russia, China, and elsewhere, and no longer from the US military-industial complex.

All three of these reasons contribute to McCain and Santorum wanting to Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb, bomb Iran. But, IMHO the real driving force behind the Hate Iran effort are Orthodox Jewish neocons like Richard Perle and Charles Krauthammer.

For those non-North Americans, McCain's "Bomb, bomb Iran" was sung to the tune of the Beach Boys' song, Barbara Ann.

The Beach Boys Singing Barbara Ann - YouTube

BTW, there are plenty of Democrats also itching to bomb Iran and plenty of others who love military-industrial complex donations to their re-elction campaings who would happily vote to attack Iran if push came to shove.
I think you are right on in respect to your post.

Do you think we could beg borrow or steal enough money to wage another war OR will our sorry financial condition bring peace to our country and perhaps to the world ?
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:31 PM   #22
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I think you are right on in respect to your post.

Do you think we could beg borrow or steal enough money to wage another war OR will our sorry financial condition bring peace to our country and perhaps to the world ?
I think that a Republican President (Definitely one with a mindset like McCain) might well shoot first and worry about paying for it later, but your guess is as good as mine.
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:31 PM   #23
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Do you think we could beg borrow or steal enough money to wage another war ...
Your elites will sure try. After 2012 elections a "coloured revolution" is in store for Russia: the same scenario that worked in desintegrating the USSR with the follow up robbery is now planned for Russia.

If it will be successful, the US will have enough to finance another war and to keep $ afloat for a few more years.
It will depends on whether or not the people of Russia learned anything from their first "Perestroyka".

If the plan will fail, the local conflicts will be stepped up.
Only the fall of the $-based world financial system will eventually bring peace.
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:31 PM   #24
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For those non-North Americans, McCain's "Bomb, bomb Iran" was sung to the tune of the Beach Boys' song, Barbara Ann.

The Beach Boys Singing Barbara Ann - YouTube

BTW, there are plenty of Democrats also itching to bomb Iran and plenty of others who love military-industrial complex donations to their re-elction campaings who would happily vote to attack Iran if push came to shove.
McLame didn't coin,invent or steal " bomb Iran" from the beach boys, he lifted it from Vince Vance and the Variants.

Vince Vance & The Valiants - Bomb Iran (1980): Free MP3 Download

Let's give credit for hate where credit is due.
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:31 PM   #25
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McLame didn't coin,invent or steal " bomb Iran" from the beach boys, he lifted it from Vince Vance and the Variants.

Vince Vance & The Valiants - Bomb Iran (1980): Free MP3 Download

Let's give credit for hate where credit is due.
The Iranian Hostage Crisis took up all of 1980, so Vince Vance's song to the tune of Barbara Ann was in response to that. That "crisis" is still well-remembered by right-wingers over thirty years later, as I'm sure that most Iranians are well aware of the 1953 US-orchestrated Operation Ajax coup almost 60 years later.
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:31 PM   #26
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The Iranian Hostage Crisis took up all of 1980, so Vince Vance's song to the tune of Barbara Ann was in response to that. That "crisis" is still well-remembered by right-wingers over thirty years later, as I'm sure that most Iranians are well aware of the 1953 US-orchestrated Operation Ajax coup almost 60 years later.
Just striving for accuracy in finger waving. "Bomb Iran" is a classic of jingoism and hate not an original of the "maverick" McLame.

I'm sure most Americans in 1980 had no clue about Operation Ajax or even really knew who the hell the Sha was. More Americans could tell you the score of the 53 World Series and name the team line ups than could name their state reps.
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