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12ZHeWZa 05-08-2011 02:32 AM

Casey Anthony: license to kill
 
Good job jury of her peers. Its always nice to know that justice will prevail even in swampland states like Florida. NOT. Little Caylee was smothered to death with duct tape and tossed in the woods like an old rag doll but the nutjob that killed her gets to laugh some more at taxpayers expense. Oh well, justice lives on in Mayberry. Hiyoooo silver, awayyyyy.

Casey Anthony Verdict -- NOT GUILTY of Murder | TMZ.com

Rexaviennatutr 05-08-2011 02:40 AM

One thing I learned by watching a lot of the OJ Simpson trial (yes, when I was a wee lad I watched a lot of that trial during the summer) is that it is really hard to judge a jury's verdict unless you sit through the trial. Not to mention speak with them afterwords.

inchaaruutaa 05-08-2011 02:54 AM

My guess is some of those jurors will be selling their stories to the first publishing company or news network that offers a few dollars.

BadbarmrapBef 05-08-2011 03:03 AM

Well that was going to happen either way...Guilty or Not Guilty...


Blame Nancy Grace for that...

http://cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoft...rdict.reax.cnn

RogHammon 06-07-2011 03:29 PM

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Well that was going to happen either way...Guilty or Not Guilty...


Blame Nancy Grace for that...

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com
Or blame the fact that they were isolated from the world and only making about $6 a day for the past two months? You can not help but wonder if they reached the verdict that quickly because they all wanted to go home.

Ecurrexchangess 06-08-2011 02:20 AM

...like i said, it was about the cashout. A sensational case like this pays alot more if she walks than it does if she goes to jail. Take a look...

Casey Anthony Juror: Ask Me Anything ... For a Price | TMZ.com

pobrierce 06-08-2011 02:50 AM

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Good job jury of her peers. Its always nice to know that justice will prevail even in swampland states like Florida. NOT. Little Caylee was smothered to death with duct tape and tossed in the woods like an old rag doll but the nutjob that killed her gets to laugh some more at taxpayers expense. Oh well, justice lives on in Mayberry. Hiyoooo silver, awayyyyy.
the jury did their job. the prosecution's case was weak. they over reached on charges and simply didn't have the evidence to support a murder charge.

one thing that bothered me was the duct tape. was it stuck to the skull when the bones were found? if so, how?? if the child was smothered with it it would have been stuck to soft tissue, not bone. if the soft tissue all decayed away, how did the tape end up stuck to bone? and if there was some soft tissue remaining, why was no dna (other then the DNA of one of the forensic technicians) found on the tape?

without a cause of death or a time of death or anything connecting Casey to the remains, how on earth could anyone NOT have reasonable doubt?

i also spent three years of my career as a forensic scientist in orlando. your "mayberry" comment is simply wrong. every police agency, lawyer and scientist i worked with was a top notch professional.

mind you, i think she did it, but with the evidence presented, i think acquittal was the right verdict. justice did prevail in this case.

ProomoSam 07-07-2011 10:25 PM

I watched this trial from beginning to end, and was pretty unfamiliar with the case - so i consider myself having about as much knowledge as the jury. I'm heartsick about this verdict. There is not a single doubt in my mind that Casey Anthony murdered her daughter. Caylee was chloroformed, duct-taped, tossed in a trash-filled swamp, rotted to a skeleton and had her bones chewed on by animals and no one is paying for it. It's despicable. I thought the prosecution's case was stellar, but if you've seen any of the juror interviews, they are not the sharpest tools in the shed. Reasonable doubt is one thing, beyond a shadow of a doubt is another. Maybe they couldn't find her guilty of 1st degree murder, but not 2nd degree, manslaughter or aggravated child abuse? That is pure ignorance and laziness. They didn't bother to fully comprehend the jury instructions and just wanted to go home. There were MANY things connecting Casey to the remains - including human decomposition found in the trunk of a car that only she had control of for 31 days.

There was no soft tissue remaining anywhere. Her body was underwater for most of the 6 months she was out there due to a hurricane, so all DNA was gone. The duct tape was wrapped around her head and hair. Although the soft tissue disintegrated, the hair did not. It was wound so tightly that her mandible was still attached to the skull in perfect anatomical position.

mincbiori 07-07-2011 10:42 PM

I find it utterly hilarious that the people watching the trial are the ones who are up in arms about the verdict yet their viewership, which made the trial a sensation, will help Casey Anthony make a load of money with interview and book deals, which they will probably in turn buy.

If they had ignored the whole thing she would have faded into obscurity.

robstamps 07-07-2011 11:02 PM

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I There were MANY things connecting Casey to the remains - including human decomposition found in the trunk of a car that only she had control of for 31 days.
really? did you listen to all the testimony? what proof did they have that a HUMAN decomposed in the trunk of that car? assuming (big assumption) it was human, was there evidence that the decomposed human was caylee anthony? the air sampling evidence should not have been allowed in to begin with. it's cool science, neat research but certainly does not adhere to the Daubert standard.

and she wasn't the only one who had control of it for 31 days. it was impounded at some point BEFORE the 31 days between caylee's disappearance and her father picking the car up from impound.

There was no soft tissue remaining anywhere. Her body was underwater for most of the 6 months she was out there due to a hurricane, so all DNA was gone. The duct tape was wrapped around her head and hair. Although the soft tissue disintegrated, the hair did not. It was wound so tightly that her mandible was still attached to the skull in perfect anatomical position. how did they know the body was underwater during most of that time? because the spot where the body was found was under water? hm, if there was a lot of water couldn't the body have moved? it wasn't under water when it was found.

did theys how photos of the skull with the duct tape? my understanding was that it wasn't actually covering the mouth/nose area. that some was across the lower jaw. But i'm just going by descriptions in the press.

Was there any evidence presented to connect the duct tape to Casey Anthony?

Caylee was chloroformed, duct-taped, tossed in a trash-filled swamp, rotted to a skeleton and had her bones chewed on by animals and no one is paying for it. though i certainly have reasonable doubt that she was chloroformed, i agree she was killed (intentionally or accidently, who knows?) and tossed in woods. IMO, what was lacking is evidence that proved, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Casey is the person responsible.

The 12 jurors obviously felt the same.

hhynmtrxcp 07-07-2011 11:22 PM

"It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished. But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen will say, 'Whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no protection,' and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever."


- Mr. John Adams

Kokomoxcvcv 07-07-2011 11:24 PM

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Good job jury of her peers. Its always nice to know that justice will prevail even in swampland states like Florida. NOT. Little Caylee was smothered to death with duct tape and tossed in the woods like an old rag doll but the nutjob that killed her gets to laugh some more at taxpayers expense. Oh well, justice lives on in Mayberry. Hiyoooo silver, awayyyyy.

Casey Anthony Verdict -- NOT GUILTY of Murder | TMZ.com
They did a good job. They decided on a verdict based on the evidence presented. Point your frustration toward the investigators and prosecution. If anything, the jurors should be commended for having the guts to do the right thing.

VZF74G0M 07-07-2011 11:25 PM

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I watched this trial from beginning to end.
You can't be serious.

fudelholf 07-07-2011 11:37 PM

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They did a good job. They decided on a verdict based on the evidence presented. Point your frustration toward the investigators and prosecution. If anything, the jurors should be commended for having the guts to do the right thing.
honestly, i think the prosecution did a good job with the evidence they had, but they over reached on the charges. i'm not sure the investigators could have done much more either. i think if they would have included a negligence charge (for not reporting her daughter missing for 31 days) she would have been convicted for that.

6ZCo3xuK 07-07-2011 11:52 PM

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honestly, i think the prosecution did a good job with the evidence they had, but they over reached on the charges. i'm not sure the investigators could have done much more either. i think if they would have included a negligence charge (for not reporting her daughter missing for 31 days) she would have been convicted for that.
From what I've read, it was a very difficult case to prosecute. However, all I'm saying is that if people are going to point fingers over the outcome, don't pass judgment on the people who had no control over the investigation.

NowFloabDow 07-08-2011 12:12 AM

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From what I've read, it was a very difficult case to prosecute. However, all I'm saying is that if people are going to point fingers over the outcome, don't pass judgment on the people who had no control over the investigation.
i completely agree. The prosecution over reached. If I was still a tax paying floridian i'd be pissed at them!

Gvadelunar 07-08-2011 01:43 AM

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Was there any evidence presented to connect the duct tape to Casey Anthony?
There was evidence I believe that connected that type/brand of duct tape to Casey's house. Supposedly it was a rare type?

I do think that "reasonable" doubt has been misinterpreted by many jurors to mean any possible doubt (whether reasonable or not). Everyone seems to want everything wrapped up all nice and neat like on tv but real life crime investigation doesn't always provide this.

I am seriously surprised that it wasn't a hung jury.

IACJdKfU 08-07-2011 04:14 PM

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i think if they would have included a negligence charge (for not reporting her daughter missing for 31 days) she would have been convicted for that.
It's only a 1st or 2nd degree misdemeanor.. 1 year or 2 months jail.. not much different than what she got for lying. And I think they'd only have been able to get the 2nd degree. 1st degree requires the state to prove that the defendant inflicted actual personal injury upon the victim. Obviously they weren't able to do that.

gernica 08-07-2011 04:24 PM

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It's only a 1st or 2nd degree misdemeanor.. 1 year or 2 months jail.. not much different than what she got for lying. And I think they'd only have been able to get the 2nd degree. 1st degree requires the state to prove that the defendant inflicted actual personal injury upon the victim. Obviously they weren't able to do that.
in florida aggravated child neglect is a second degree felony and has a minimum punishment of 34.5 months in prison. max of 15 years.

radicalvolume 08-07-2011 04:54 PM

Ah, I was thinking criminal (culpable) negligence, not child neglect. Good point.


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