[NETvoyne]

AKA the most sane of either party.

I don't know that I'd call Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman sane...

[Grorointeri]

I don't know that I'd call Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman sane...

I disagree, but in any case, nobody can come close to topping Obama. Probably not even anthjohn.

[barsikjal]

Jon Huntsman

One could say he's a high school drop out, son of a billionaire, Boy scout until like age 30. On the other hand, he's a rocker, motorcycle enthusiast, sex maniac(with only his wife) and he's extremely intelligent. He's my favorite pick from the right.

[palantownia]

Yeah... Maybe the Tea Party should run someone...

The Tea Party is running Michelle Bachmann.

[BegeMoT]

So I saw what might be the stupidest bumper stickers today.

"Obama 2012". I looked at the guy, looked smart, but what a lemming.

Here is a guy who already knows who he is voting for, but doesn't even know who is running for the office or what they hope to do once in office...

Maybe he watched every minute of the GOP debate in NH?

[lkastonidwedsrer]

One could say he's a high school drop out, son of a billionaire, Boy scout until like age 30. On the other hand, he's a rocker, motorcycle enthusiast, sex maniac(with only his wife) and he's extremely intelligent. He's my favorite pick from the right.

I agree. But he doesn't stand a chance in hell of being the GOP nominee, which is a shame. He's probably the only GOP candidate who has a chance of appealing to independents and moderate democrats.

[sharpyure]

I agree. But he doesn't stand a chance in hell of being the GOP nominee, which is a shame. He's probably the only GOP candidate who has a chance of appealing to independents and moderate democrats.

Even if he could win the nomination, beating Obama is going to be real hard for anybody, unless the economy really dips again. Obama has the advantage of a lot "free" votes that are going to him no matter what, and his fundraising and campaign organization is excellent.

If Huntsman gets some national recognition this year, he might have a good shot in 2016; I'm guessing that's his game plan.

[eocavrWM]

Even if he could win the nomination, beating Obama is going to be real hard for anybody, unless the economy really dips again. Obama has the advantage of a lot "free" votes that are going to him no matter what, and his fundraising and campaign organization is excellent.

If Huntsman gets some national recognition this year, he might have a good shot in 2016; I'm guessing that's his game plan.

Well, maybe not: Poll: 3 in 10 sure they'll vote Obama - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

[Hixinfineedom]

So I saw what might be the stupidest bumper stickers today.

"Obama 2012". I looked at the guy, looked smart, but what a lemming.

Here is a guy who already knows who he is voting for, but doesn't even know who is running for the office or what they hope to do once in office.

We're fu'ed...

ps. of course, it was on a Prius.

Man what a lousy attitude. Might it occur to you that many people are extremely happy with the way Obama has governed and the policies he has implemented?

Maybe all the crowing from the Tea Party hasn't really sunk in to most of the electorate? Maybe all you hearing from are the loudest a-holes?

Or possibly the guy in the Prius believes that the Republican party has moved so far to the right that they dread the election of any of the current Republican candidates? Rick "Secession" Perry? Michelle Bachman? Sarah Palin? Newt? A you f'ing kidding me?

[BqTyG9eS]

Well, maybe not: Poll: 3 in 10 sure they'll vote Obama - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

A quote from your linked article:

"But the news isn’t all bad for Obama’s 2012 prospects. Sixty percent of those surveyed said that the Republican candidate who ends up running against Obama will have to move so far to the right on social and fiscal issues to win the GOP nomination that it will be very hard to vote for them in the general election."

No surprise there.

[Patamuta]

Man what a lousy attitude. Might it occur to you that many people are extremely happy with the way Obama has governed and the policies he has implemented?

Maybe all the crowing from the Tea Party hasn't really sunk in to most of the electorate? Maybe all you hearing from are the loudest a-holes?

Or possibly the guy in the Prius believes that the Republican party has moved so far to the right that they dread the election of any of the current Republican candidates? Rick "Secession" Perry? Michelle Bachman? Sarah Palin? Newt? A you f'ing kidding me?

God you're insufferable. If it was a Bush 2004 sticker on a Hummer in 2002, you'd be all over their sh!t, too.

But I know, I know, "I support the tea party, hate freedom, _________, etc."

Good post OP. I agree with you 100%. You know those tools bought the Obama 2012 stickers on the same day the anti's bought their stupid "How do you like your change, comrade" stickers: Nov 6th, 2008. Because politics is a team sport.

[quottrethew]

God you're insufferable. If it was a Bush 2004 sticker on a Hummer in 2002, you'd be all over their sh!t, too.

Actually no I wouldn't. I was against Bush because I was against the Iraq War and against his "religious" agenda. If a person who had a Bush sticker was for his agenda-he's just being consistent with his beliefs. No problem. I guess that's hard for you to understand eh?

Good post OP. I agree with you 100%. You know those tools bought the Obama 2012 stickers on the same day the anti's bought their stupid "How do you like your change, comrade" stickers: Nov 6th, 2008. Because politics is a team sport. Who is the tool? I support those who support the policies that I support. I was completely knowledgeable of the Obama campaign platform when I supported him against Hillary Clinton and against John McCain. And he has implemented a great number of those policies-to yours and other partisans chagrin. What tea party and other hacks like you fail to understand is that Obama has been remarkably consistent with most of his campaign promises and platform. Many people who supported him are very pleased with that-and are greatly looking forward to supporting him again. He was one of the most successful presidents in history from a legislative standpoint. You just don't like the policies. Tough for you. Don't blame those people who agree with him for supporting him.

The OP;s post is obnoxious and your support for it makes you look like a total jerk. You don't know this guys reason for having an Obama sticker do you? Perhaps he supports the health care bill and Wall Street reform? Perhaps he likes a president who showed the leadership necessary to capture and kill Osama Bin Laden? I guess that's hard to understand for someone looking through their Obama hatred lens.

[Catalogov]

Actually no I wouldn't. I was against Bush because I was against the Iraq War and against his "religious" agenda. If a person who had a Bush sticker was for his agenda-he's just being consistent with his beliefs. No problem. I guess that's hard for you to understand eh?



Who is the tool? I support those who support the policies that I support. I was completely knowledgeable of the Obama campaign platform when I supported him against Hillary Clinton and against John McCain. And he has implemented a great number of those policies-to yours and other partisans chagrin. What tea party and other hacks like you fail to understand is that Obama has been remarkably consistent with most of his campaign promises and platform. Many people who supported him are very pleased with that-and are greatly looking forward to supporting him again. He was one of the most successful presidents in history from a legislative standpoint. You just don't like the policies. Tough for you. Don't blame those people who agree with him for supporting him.

The OP;s post is obnoxious and your support for it makes you look like a total jerk. You don't know this guys reason for having an Obama sticker do you? Perhaps he supports the health care bill and Wall Street reform? Perhaps he likes a president who showed the leadership necessary to capture and kill Osama Bin Laden? I guess that's hard to understand for someone looking through their Obama hatred lens.

Yeah, you're totally right. Really hit the nail on the head there.

[diegogo]

Even if he could win the nomination, beating Obama is going to be real hard for anybody, unless the economy really dips again. Obama has the advantage of a lot "free" votes that are going to him no matter what, and his fundraising and campaign organization is excellent.

If Huntsman gets some national recognition this year, he might have a good shot in 2016; I'm guessing that's his game plan.

Free votes? Pretty much each party has a base votes of at least 30% of the voting electorate and they're generally fighting for 20% in the middle and for low turnout for their opponent.

[OmqMZtkv]

Actually no I wouldn't. I was against Bush because I was against the Iraq War and against his "religious" agenda. If a person who had a Bush sticker was for his agenda-he's just being consistent with his beliefs. No problem. I guess that's hard for you to understand eh? What tea party and other hacks like you fail to understand is that Obama has been remarkably consistent with most of his campaign promises and platform.

Libya, anyone?

[ëàìèíàò]

Libya, anyone?

A lot of that opposition to the Libyan campaign is disingenuous, at best. I'm not talking about you since you're of that Ron Paul mindset, but comparing Iraq and Libya is a little absurd. If it somehow becomes a unilateral ground war, then I'll be right there with you. I despise this habit we have of nation building. It's unconstitutional. Most of the wars over the past 60 years have been.

Huntsman is the first GOP candidate who intrigues me. I'm most likely voting for Obama and I drive a Prius. I don't like giving money to Saudi Arabia. If that makes me a bleeding heart liberal, then I'm proud to wear the label. However, if Huntsman or someone else shows me something over the next year, I'd have no problem voting GOP or Independent.

The OP called someone a partisan hack and then used the hackiest argument to prove his point. Yes, if blah blah said they were voting for Bush in 2002, then that makes them a blah blah, also. However, that doesn't change the fact that the OP comes off worse than the person with the Obama 2012 bumper sticker.

[wantedLOX]

I'm wondering how the driver with the Obama sticker, is any different from the thousands of people who voted for Bush again, because he alledgedly stopped another terror attack. Somehow, taking the fight to them, made him worthy of re-election.

[Gintovtosik]

2012 campaigning has begun; bumper stickers, pins, tee-shirts, lawn signs, are all part of campaigning; not only is it advertising, it raises money for the campaigns. I would be shocked if you couldn't buy a Bachmann, Romney, or even Gingrich 2012 bumper sticker for your car. Hell, Huntsman announced this week; you can probably call his campaign headquarters and get a bumper sticker today.

[spravka.ua]

A lot of that opposition to the Libyan campaign is disingenuous, at best. I'm not talking about you since you're of that Ron Paul mindset, but comparing Iraq and Libya is a little absurd. If it somehow becomes a unilateral ground war, then I'll be right there with you. I despise this habit we have of nation building. It's unconstitutional. Most of the wars over the past 60 years have been.

Huntsman is the first GOP candidate who intrigues me. I'm most likely voting for Obama and I drive a Prius. I don't like giving money to Saudi Arabia. If that makes me a bleeding heart liberal, then I'm proud to wear the label. However, if Huntsman or someone else shows me something over the next year, I'd have no problem voting GOP or Independent.

The OP called someone a partisan hack and then used the hackiest argument to prove his point. Yes, if blah blah said they were voting for Bush in 2002, then that makes them a blah blah, also. However, that doesn't change the fact that the OP comes off worse than the person with the Obama 2012 bumper sticker.

This is exactly the point.

Don't denigrate someone for having their mind made up when you don't know why the person is supporting the candidate. If he has a bumper sticker this early-he probably has a good reason for it.

As for Huntsman-he is a breath of fresh air in the field-actually stating that he would run a noble campaign and wouldn't try to "tear down" his opponents-but I fear for that reason he has no chance.

[reervieltnope]

A lot of that opposition to the Libyan campaign is disingenuous, at best.

Liberal Democrats in uproar over Libya action - John Bresnahan and Jonathan Allen - POLITICO.com

There was also a good discussion on NPR today about Dems (and Reps) in Congress upset about Libya. So no, it's not disingenuous. Obama has started another front. What about the other countries that could use our help? Why stop here? Nice NPR discussion today that contradicts you.