[DouseAuthott]

Sarcasm is a big Fail when communicated in text.

I was more curious abt the leftys thoughts on these over paying tax funded jobs we can’t afford it.
Seriously I could run the Dept. of the Interiors facebook page from home in the evening and/or on the weekend. I still keep my business running and add $115k a year to my income. I suspect a fat pension for life to go along w/ a golden medical benefit plan, no premiums/deductibles as well. Where do i apply?

[mQb0aVZe]

I don't care in the private industry--those things tend to work themselves out in some way or another.

It's called C-O-M-P-E-T-I-T-I-O-N.

Competition doesn't always naturally create itself. I work in the utilities space (they're my customers) and it's a natural monopoly. These things form.

HGirl you have read my rants about Pennsylvania's electricity "deregulation"; it's not producing any value to consumers who buy energy. All it has done so far is raise the floor price for electricity so everybody pays a LOT more, and give you a choice over one line item in your bill, and it has added thousands of people into the billing process that were not there before who are just dead weight. Like the marketing schmoes trying to get people to switch to get the 1-cent discount on the generation charges. This isn't real competition, it's Tom Foolery.

Oligopolies are basically a legalized form of price fixing that gets as CLOSE as legally possible to a monopoly. A market with only 3 suppliers in it and most of the employees have only a couple choices to relocate to if they quit their jobs equals a lot of internal shared information, including pricing that gets more sticky and less "free". The ATT buy of T-Mobile is a clear cut case. There is no advantage to consumers at face value in this transaction. However natural monopolies do have weaknesses, like market shutout which can backfire. But it can take decades for a breakout to come. Ask the cable TV industry about this (satellite, FIOS, etc).

Free markets do work, but only where the commodity or service involved can freely float in the market. If you have suppliers holding down supply or only a couple of buyers, the market isn't ever going to be the textbook ideal of a random place where arms-length transactions solely determine price and everyone is on an even advantage.

The Rand school of economics loves to ignore these and/or claim they're immaterial; as they do services which the free market would rather not supply, like fire protection. As you know, Philadelphia was the first place in the US where the idea of a private fire fighting system was established and it was a nightmare for the "consumers" who quickly discovered that it was not so easy to get a fire fighting gang to one's house if one wasn't paying for fire protection to a company that was available and sometimes other fire companies were not willing to extend themselves to "out of network" customers, etc. Fire fighting in Philadelphia in its early stages kind of had the service quality of an HMO insurance that requires referrals before patients are allowed to get a procedure.


Hard core Rand fans also do not believe government policing of fraud is really necessary. Alan Greenspan spoke openly about this; he was a believer of it. The argument goes that if someone in the market is a bad player, the other market players will ferret that person out and not trade with him. The reality is that it's absolutely not true.

And even if you have cops on the beat, if you have cops on the beat who collude with the players and take kickbacks, or are too dumb to understand how the market works, then the Bernie Madoffs are allowed to roam around the free market and inflict heavy amounts of damage.

Will getting rid of the cops get rid of the future Madoffs? I guess you could say, if we stop outlawing rape and give up the justice system from going after rapists, will that help or harm rape victims?

[Patamuta]

Follow-up to my post: The reasons I went into is why we have Antitrust laws. This predates the Depression and the Fed; we're talking about the 19th century here and the old railroad and commodity monopolies, and back in the day when stock sharks invented the term "cornering the market"


Know where the term "cornering the market" came from? It goes way back to when there used to be men standing outside the NYSE building who would trade outside the official markets inside the building. Some of them would borrow intense amounts of money from banks, buy up a security or a commodity up to the point where the depth of the market collapses.

Depth means there's not enough buyers and too many sellers or the opposite and there's little trading going on. This person would then go to the corner across from the NYSE and start selling his hoard and name is own price. Buyers who need this commodity and have no choice but to buy get screwed because there's only one person in the market selling, and when he sells the price goes up, and other investors want to jump in and buy and ride the wave with the guy cornering the market, so the price screams higher out of control.

[xanax-buy-online.com]

And where does JS work, exactly?

[nTDsD0aU]

Sarcasm is a big Fail when communicated in text.

I was more curious abt the leftys thoughts on these over paying tax funded jobs we can’t afford it.

so why not just ask?

Seriously I could run the Dept. of the Interiors facebook page from home in the evening and/or on the weekend. I still keep my business running and add $115k a year to my income. I suspect a fat pension for life to go along w/ a golden medical benefit plan, no premiums/deductibles as well. Where do i apply? i think the first test of eligibility is being able to figure out how to apply for the job

[gettoblaster]

Were you aware that Rand Paul takes government payments from Medicare and Medicaid ? Can we say hypocrisy ?

Rand Paul Under Fire For Accepting Government Payments For Treating Medicare And Medicaid Patients

Now we know who is one of the tax money taking liberals.

Back in May, Senator-elect Rand Paul (R-KY) raised more than a few eyebrows when he backed Democratic efforts to prevent cuts to physician payments under a program called the sustained growth rate, or SGR. At one campaign event Paul, an ophthalmologist who generated 50 percent of his practice from government reimbursements, said, “Physicians should be allowed to make a comfortable living,” conveniently disregarding his pledge to institute “across the board cuts” on government spending.


http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/20.../paul-spitzer/

[kesFockplek]

Sarcasm is a big Fail when communicated in text.

I was more curious abt the leftys thoughts on these over paying tax funded jobs we can’t afford it.
Seriously I could run the Dept. of the Interiors facebook page from home in the evening and/or on the weekend. I still keep my business running and add $115k a year to my income. I suspect a fat pension for life to go along w/ a golden medical benefit plan, no premiums/deductibles as well. Where do i apply?

Not all Federal jobs have benefits. I had a Federal job for 2 years, no benefits.

[Wckcvhsg]

How else do you justify your ramblings for deficits, printing from the Fed & higher taxes on the private sector & wealthy, for these jobs.

Federal Jobs | Uncle Sam shelling out big bucks for government jobs, GOP says time to cut | The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment

For $180k/yr at DOT, you can call me a queer Muslim communist for all I care.

[ChyFDjfed]

Not all Federal jobs have benefits. I had a Federal job for 2 years, no benefits.

they certainly don't all have pensions and while my health insurance premiums were covered completely, they weren't as good as my current benefits and people covering spouses and/or children had to pay a hefty sum.

[Enrobrorb]

I've never worked for any government ever. Always been in the private sector and I've worked in the F100.

I'm also a stockholder and a bondholder and I participate in the free markets.

And I'm not a leftist/liberal, nor am I a SoCo. I'm not a heavy fiscal conservative because such a critter does not realistically exist, only hypothetically.

I'm a pragmatist libertarian and have been for quite a long time.

No offense but ‘pragmatist’ gives you a defense for your statist tendencies

[Plonnikas]

Not all Federal jobs have benefits. I had a Federal job for 2 years, no benefits.

I know just having some fun .. the benefit structure in the Federal system is not the same as State and Local governments BUT the pay seems to be higher

[ChicasCams]

No offense but ‘pragmatist’ gives you a defense for your statist tendencies

Anything left of anarcho-libertarianism is statist in your eyes. Not a stronger ideologue has this forum ever had.

F*ck ideology. Do what works and does the most good for the most people as long as it doesn't violate our rights. Outside of that, why should one care if an idea is left or right?

Just another way of dehumanizing people with by applying labels to them.

[Jerwittdergut]

Anything left of anarcho-libertarianism is statist in your eyes. Not a stronger ideologue has this forum ever had.

F*ck ideology. Do what works and does the most good for the most people as long as it doesn't violate our rights. Outside of that, why should one care if an idea is left or right?

Just another way of dehumanizing people with by applying labels to them.

Seriously?

Mayfair is a big boy and i don't think I'm 'dehumanizing' him .. take a look at some of the 'labels' he (& others) have attached to me b/ of my views ... I haven't felt 'dehumanized' .. I think his skin is a lil thicker thn you give him credit

[vicgirl]

Anything left of anarcho-libertarianism is statist in your eyes. Not a stronger ideologue has this forum ever had.

But I do think you'd admit that Dayman has a point on this?

[seatlyled]

Anything left of anarcho-libertarianism is statist in your eyes. Not a stronger ideologue has this forum ever had.

But I do think you'd admit that Dayman has a point on this?

I've only been on this forum for 12 months so i can't say

[ROYMANgo]

I've only been on this forum for 12 months so i can't say

Actually, I was thinking more of this part:

Anything left of anarcho-libertarianism is statist in your eyes.

[SaraKonradtt]

Actually, I was thinking more of this part:

Anything left of anarcho-libertarianism is statist in your eyes.

I know

[Abedgebeefs]

I know

Oh, sorry. I was being humorless for a moment. Point taken.