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Old 07-02-2011, 10:55 PM   #1
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/02...est=latestnews

A controversial non-profit organization announced it has awarded the second of five academic scholarships to a Texas man. Among the criteria: the recipient must be white and male. The group sponsoring it says it's the only scholarship of its kind in the United States, My Fox Dallas-Fort Worth reports.

The award was presented by a group called the Former Majority Association for Equality. Its president, Colby Bohannon, says he has been called a racist and compared to the KKK.

To win, he had to demonstrate a high GPA, community service, sports ability and financial need. But what really sealed the deal is the fact that he is a white man.


I don't think it is. How is it different from scholarships for select ethnicities, cultures, genders, people with disabilities, etc? I don't see the big deal.
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Old 07-02-2011, 11:00 PM   #2
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Nope its not. There are other scholarships for Hispanics or Blacks.
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Old 07-02-2011, 11:34 PM   #3
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If you sponsor the scholarship, you get to determine the rules for it's award.
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Old 07-03-2011, 12:04 AM   #4
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I don't think it is. Look at all the scholarships there are for minorities. All the non-white people need to stop throwing the race card every time something happens that they don't like. They are the racists.
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Old 07-03-2011, 07:03 AM   #5
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And being there are 30+ specific for blacks, iirc around 40+ for other minority groups EACH.. i don't see why its outlandish for one group to selectively go with whites.
Unless its the same sort of "discrimination" that people see when there are 30+ womans health centers/gyms allowed but as soon as one male specific one comes out it is slammed for being sexist.
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Old 07-03-2011, 09:21 AM   #6
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/02...est=latestnews

A controversial non-profit organization announced it has awarded the second of five academic scholarships to a Texas man. Among the criteria: the recipient must be white and male. The group sponsoring it says it's the only scholarship of its kind in the United States, My Fox Dallas-Fort Worth reports.

The award was presented by a group called the Former Majority Association for Equality. Its president, Colby Bohannon, says he has been called a racist and compared to the KKK.

To win, he had to demonstrate a high GPA, community service, sports ability and financial need. But what really sealed the deal is the fact that he is a white man.


I don't think it is. How is it different from scholarships for select ethnicities, cultures, genders, people with disabilities, etc? I don't see the big deal.
Is this something new happening in the world? haha.

I guess you never saw the movie SOUL MAN back in the 80s. One of my favorite flicks with C. Thomas Howell of ET and Outsiders fame.

Same theme.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Man_(film)
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Old 07-03-2011, 01:35 PM   #7
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An old colleague of mine was denied a college scholarship for "african americans" during his senior year in high school because he was caucasian. But get this, he was more qualified for it than any of the other applicants. His parents were american humanitarian workers and he was born in South Africa. He holds dual citizenship in both countries. The board didn't realize it until he showed up for the interview. To this day he still lists his race/ethnicity/nationality as African American whenever he fills out forms.
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Old 07-03-2011, 04:04 PM   #8
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Looks like Fox News is trolling again. The guy claimed he has been compared to the KKK, yet the entire article didn't mention ONE person or organization that opposes the scholarship. NOBODY CARES - but Fox stirs up publicity in an attempt to get someone angry, and prove there's some huge leftist conspiracy. Then they'll repeat the story over and over, each rerun more hysterical than the previous.

An old colleague of mine was denied a college scholarship for "african americans" during his senior year in high school because he was caucasian.
Well yeah, DUH.

He holds dual citizenship in both countries. So if I work at a casino on a Cherokee Reservation I'm Native American? If I live in Jerusalem I'm Jewish?
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Old 07-03-2011, 04:20 PM   #9
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I don't think it is. Look at all the scholarships there are for minorities. All the non-white people need to stop throwing the race card every time something happens that they don't like. They are the racists.
I read this and agree with the people that responded factually; however it sounds pretty ignorant to say stop throwing the race card. It was a question as to whether or not this particular scholarship is racist. The criteria is set, obviously non-whites need not apply.
Heres one for you, HBCU (Historically Black Colleges and Universities), ex: Howard University, Winston-Salem University, Delaware State University, to name a few, offer minority scholarships to non-blacks. Guess who qualifies? Non Blacks. So think before you label!
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Old 07-03-2011, 04:27 PM   #10
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So if I work at a casino on a Cherokee Reservation I'm Native American? If I live in Jerusalem I'm Jewish?
Big difference between "working at," "living in," and "being from". He was born in South Africa, making him african (something most blacks here in the states can't actually claim) and he holds American citizenship, making him American. So, when a scholarship is open to "African Americans" he should rightfully qualify, regardless of his skin color.
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Old 07-03-2011, 05:11 PM   #11
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Ethnicity is irrelevant to where you're from. A person of African descent born in the USA is still of African descent. I'm Caucasian no matter where I'm born. I could be born in a grass hut in Kenya, and grow up hunting antelope, and still be Caucasian.
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Old 07-03-2011, 06:46 PM   #12
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Looks like Fox News is trolling again. The guy claimed he has been compared to the KKK, yet the entire article didn't mention ONE person or organization that opposes the scholarship. NOBODY CARES - but Fox stirs up publicity in an attempt to get someone angry, and prove there's some huge leftist conspiracy. Then they'll repeat the story over and over, each rerun more hysterical than the previous.
Well ABC must be stirring the pot as well and at least one person seems to argue with the premise of the award. CNN joined the act as well.

And the Daily Mail in the UK……….

And Reuters……………

And……………the Washington Post

Hell even Perez Hilton had something to say.
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Old 07-03-2011, 06:52 PM   #13
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An old colleague of mine was denied a college scholarship for "african americans" during his senior year in high school because he was caucasian. But get this, he was more qualified for it than any of the other applicants. His parents were american humanitarian workers and he was born in South Africa. He holds dual citizenship in both countries. The board didn't realize it until he showed up for the interview. To this day he still lists his race/ethnicity/nationality as African American whenever he fills out forms.
Well he actually is African American. See that's what I tell people. If you weren't born in Africa, you shouldn't call yourself African American. Why not just call yourself American? I have German, Irish and Scottish ancestry of what I know and I don't call myself "German, Scottish, Irish - American" because I'm not from those areas!! I was born and raised in America. I'm American. Anyone else who is born and raised in this country is American. One of the guys in my old unit born in Mexico and came here when he was little and was a legal resident before getting his citizenship. If he wanted to he could say he's Mexican-American although after getting his citizenship, he's just American because he gave up his Mexican citizenship (had to in order to get a clearance).

I like to ask some black people "So when did you immigrate from Africa?" They give me a dumb stare. I say "Well if you're African American you must have been born or have citizenship in Africa right?"
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Old 07-03-2011, 06:53 PM   #14
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Well ABC must be stirring the pot as well and at least one person seems to argue with the premise of the award. CNN joined the act as well.

And the Daily Mail in the UK……….

And Reuters……………

And……………the Washington Post

Hell even Perez Hilton had something to say.
The application for a $500 scholarship from the Former Majority Association for Equality looks pretty much like all the others out there. Well, except for this eligibility requirement: "Male - No less than 25% Caucasian."

Well even there you could be black, Hispanic, whatever and still get it so what's the big deal? So if someone had one parent who is black and one who is white, they could still get the damn scholarship.

It usually is the media that stirs up controversy where there is none.
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Old 07-03-2011, 06:58 PM   #15
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The application for a $500 scholarship from the Former Majority Association for Equality looks pretty much like all the others out there. Well, except for this eligibility requirement: "Male - No less than 25% Caucasian."

Well even there you could be black, Hispanic, whatever and still get it so what's the big deal? So if someone had one parent who is black and one who is white, they could still get the damn scholarship.

It usually is the media that stirs up controversy where there is none.
No arguement from me on that point............
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Old 07-03-2011, 07:28 PM   #16
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Well he actually is African American. See that's what I tell people. If you weren't born in Africa, you shouldn't call yourself African American. Why not just call yourself American? I have German, Irish and Scottish ancestry of what I know and I don't call myself "German, Scottish, Irish - American" because I'm not from those areas!! I was born and raised in America. I'm American. Anyone else who is born and raised in this country is American. One of the guys in my old unit born in Mexico and came here when he was little and was a legal resident before getting his citizenship. If he wanted to he could say he's Mexican-American although after getting his citizenship, he's just American because he gave up his Mexican citizenship (had to in order to get a clearance).

I like to ask some black people "So when did you immigrate from Africa?" They give me a dumb stare. I say "Well if you're African American you must have been born or have citizenship in Africa right?"
And there is the reason during the census I always write in "Irish-American" Just for good measure.
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Old 07-03-2011, 09:59 PM   #17
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I read this and agree with the people that responded factually; however it sounds pretty ignorant to say stop throwing the race card. It was a question as to whether or not this particular scholarship is racist. The criteria is set, obviously non-whites need not apply.
Heres one for you, HBCU (Historically Black Colleges and Universities), ex: Howard University, Winston-Salem University, Delaware State University, to name a few, offer minority scholarships to non-blacks. Guess who qualifies? Non Blacks. So think before you label!
Why is it ignorant? It seems these days, anything that goes on that hampers a black person, even when its other blacks, gets cry's of racism..
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Old 07-03-2011, 10:12 PM   #18
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I read this and agree with the people that responded factually; however it sounds pretty ignorant to say stop throwing the race card. It was a question as to whether or not this particular scholarship is racist. The criteria is set, obviously non-whites need not apply.
Heres one for you, HBCU (Historically Black Colleges and Universities), ex: Howard University, Winston-Salem University, Delaware State University, to name a few, offer minority scholarships to non-blacks. Guess who qualifies? Non Blacks. So think before you label!
How is it ignorant to say the race card gets thrown around? It does. I see it a lot. If you say something even slightly construed as offensive to a black person or any minority it's racist but say it about white people and it's not racist. So how is that not throwing the race card around?

Also in one of the articles it states that part of the criteria is a person can't be "less than 25% white." So that means they could be the child of a black person and a white person, making them 50% white let's just say. I really doubt that anyone is 100% white or any skin color or ethnicity today anyway considering that, especially in the US during slavery, there was a lot of "mixing." But I don't think it's racist at all for there to be a white only scholarship from this group. If you want to set up a scholarship fund you set the guidelines. It's your money and if people donate to it, they must agree with you. Obviously don't apply for it then if you don't qualify. There were a lot of scholarships I didn't apply for before college because (gasp) I didn't qualify either my GPA wasn't a 4.0 or I didn't have enough activities. I go find something else.
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Old 07-04-2011, 04:16 AM   #19
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[QUOTE=
So if I work at a casino on a Cherokee Reservation I'm Native American? If I live in Jerusalem I'm Jewish?[/QUOTE]

Actually, if you live in Jerusalem you would be Israeli.
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Old 07-04-2011, 05:04 AM   #20
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Ethnicity is irrelevant to where you're from. A person of African descent born in the USA is still of African descent. I'm Caucasian no matter where I'm born. I could be born in a grass hut in Kenya, and grow up hunting antelope, and still be Caucasian.
But if you're born and raised in Africa, you're African. If you're born and raised in America, you're American. Just because I have German, Irish and Scottish - and who knows what else ancestry - that doesn't make me German, Irish or Scottish. Plus we all probably have some African ancestry in our lineages somewhere if you go back far enough. There are plenty of Caucasian or people who are considered white who are African because that's where they were born and live. That's why people who are born in this country are American, regardless of their ethnicity. However, I feel if you have never stepped foot in say Africa for example, you're not African American. So what about people who are "half" or mixed (even though again we all are but I digress)?

The point is that I don't understand why if you become a citizen of this country or are born a citizen or want to be a citizen, why wouldn't you just call yourself American? If you're a dual citizen, by all means, then you call yourself German American, Mexican American, etc.
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