[jq0AFTTC]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/04...leaves-5-dead/

First off, this was the wrong reaction to the buring of the Quran obviously. However when the only way these people usually hear about these things is through the Taliban, it's no wonder they freak out. Also this was not ISLAM reacting, this was the people reacting.

Second, that stupid "pastor" in Florida KNEW this would happen and he still did it. Did he as a US citizen have the right to do it? Yes but does that mean he should? No. Just because the WBC has the right to protest outside funerals does that mean they should?

This is only going to help the Taliban's side of the propaganda war. That's where the US and coalition is losing is the media war. I read somewhere that bin Laden stated "90% of the battle" is through media. They aren't stupid when it comes to that stuff.

I just don't understand why people think one religion is "better" than the other. Don't people realize not one religion is exactly the same as it was when it was created? Things have been misinterpreted over the years especially through translation.

Both Christianity and Islam have their sordid pasts and even today, there are those who say they are Christian who do horrendous things in the name of Jesus or god. Bombing abortion clinics, the WBC, hate groups. Oh wait, "real" Christians don't claim them. Well "real" Muslims don't claim their fundamentalists either.

Again, this was the wrong reaction for those in Afghanistan, especially against innocent UN workers, but Terry Jones KNEW the result and should have shown restraint. He could have held his little "trial" without the end result burning the Quran. I do wonder why no news outlets reported it ('major' news) until after this? I think maybe they didn't want to give him the publicity...or they were too concerned with Libya. Or both.

Either way, this situation could have easily been avoided. What have Muslims done to Terry Jones specifically that he feels the need to constantly prod them?

[Kinds Of Pain Meds]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/04...leaves-5-dead/

First off, this was the wrong reaction to the buring of the Quran obviously. However when the only way these people usually hear about these things is through the Taliban, it's no wonder they freak out. Also this was not ISLAM reacting, this was the people reacting.

Second, that stupid "pastor" in Florida KNEW this would happen and he still did it. Did he as a US citizen have the right to do it? Yes but does that mean he should? No. Just because the WBC has the right to protest outside funerals does that mean they should?

This is only going to help the Taliban's side of the propaganda war. That's where the US and coalition is losing is the media war. I read somewhere that bin Laden stated "90% of the battle" is through media. They aren't stupid when it comes to that stuff.

I just don't understand why people think one religion is "better" than the other. Don't people realize not one religion is exactly the same as it was when it was created? Things have been misinterpreted over the years especially through translation.

Both Christianity and Islam have their sordid pasts and even today, there are those who say they are Christian who do horrendous things in the name of Jesus or god. Bombing abortion clinics, the WBC, hate groups. Oh wait, "real" Christians don't claim them. Well "real" Muslims don't claim their fundamentalists either.

Again, this was the wrong reaction for those in Afghanistan, especially against innocent UN workers, but Terry Jones KNEW the result and should have shown restraint. He could have held his little "trial" without the end result burning the Quran. I do wonder why no news outlets reported it ('major' news) until after this? I think maybe they didn't want to give him the publicity...or they were too concerned with Libya. Or both.

Either way, this situation could have easily been avoided. What have Muslims done to Terry Jones specifically that he feels the need to constantly prod them?

Following this logic if we hadn't have made the Twin Towers so tall the 9/11 hijackers wouldn't have flown planes into them? This Terry Jones guy (not the one on Monty Python, the other one) is a loon, but saying he caused the otherwise peaceful people to kill and behead numerous people is like saying Onieda makes silverware, silverware includes spoons and spoons are used to eat ice cream therefore Onieda causes obesity.

[Peertantyb]

They want us out. Fine lets leave and see what happens when the Taliban comes back and starts stoning women. Afghanastan is a waste of space. We haven found Bin Laden yet, and even if we did we probably wouldnt be allowed to bomb him because we'd hurt somebody's feelings. I dont blame that loon in FL for the attacks on UN facility, but he knew the response he was going to get and he went with it. That guy is a moron. I'm thinking about burning some bibles across the street from his church because I feel its against my religion. I'm sure he'd blow his top over that one. To many wackjobs in the world.

[SiM7W2zi]

What we have are a bunch of 13th-century morons being led by imams who are also morons, but with a touch of power-hungry evil.

And we're in all seriousness trying to delevop a democracy there. So, who are really the morons? We need to GTFO of that unbelievable crap hole, and take every thing of any value that we brought over there with us. When the Taliban starts acting up again, well, that's what intercontinental bombers are for.

[opergolon]

Personallly i say drop a daisy cutter on mecca, medina and the 3 other Top 5 holy islamic sites..

[Daleman1984]

They are retarded for thinking that protesting and killing random foreigners is going to do anything to stop someone from burning the book. Eh, guess this is what happens when you give people freedom and they dont know what to do with it.

[NikkitaZ]

Following this logic if we hadn't have made the Twin Towers so tall the 9/11 hijackers wouldn't have flown planes into them? This Terry Jones guy (not the one on Monty Python, the other one) is a loon, but saying he caused the otherwise peaceful people to kill and behead numerous people is like saying Onieda makes silverware, silverware includes spoons and spoons are used to eat ice cream therefore Onieda causes obesity.

I said those Afghans weren't right in their decision to kill those UN workers, did I not? However, just because that "pastor" has the right to burn the Quran or any book, does that mean he should have? Couldn't he have had his little "trial" without the result of the book burning?

I'm not saying Islam is any more right than Christianity. It's not. In fact I think all religions are extremely corrupted in this day and age. They have been misinterpreted over the thousands of years of their existence and have become perverted into something unrecognizable.

I never said that Jones forced anyone to kill innocents so twisting what I said into your statement is ridiculous. However his ACTION did cause an EFFECT. 9/11 happened because of a twisted and horrendous man who managed to recruit some equally horrendous people to pull of an attack on the US; not because our building were "too tall." Also my statement is not similar to saying people who make spoons cause obesity. But thanks for the sarcasm.

[optormtix]

I find it interesting that some of the liberals (not singling out anyone here) who don't even raise an eyebrow at Muslims going on killing sprees when someone spreads a rumor that, on the other side of the world, a Koran was burned, are the first to condemn Christians for merely objecting their tax dollars should not be used to subsidize anti-Christian "art" in their own museums.

[LxtdK9i4]

I just don't understand why people think one religion is "better" than the other.

Because they make different truth claims, some of which are right and some of which is wrong.

The "best" religion is the one that gets the most and the most important truth claims right.

I don't understand people who choose a religion because they think it's cool or suits their personality. Choose the religion you think is TRUE.

[QEoMi752]

Personallly i say drop a daisy cutter on mecca, medina and the 3 other Top 5 holy islamic sites..

to small, have to step it up to a moab

[addisonnicogel]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/04...leaves-5-dead/

First off, this was the wrong reaction to the buring of the Quran obviously. However when the only way these people usually hear about these things is through the Taliban, it's no wonder they freak out. Also this was not ISLAM reacting, this was the people reacting.

Second, that stupid "pastor" in Florida KNEW this would happen and he still did it. Did he as a US citizen have the right to do it? Yes but does that mean he should? No. Just because the WBC has the right to protest outside funerals does that mean they should?

This is only going to help the Taliban's side of the propaganda war. That's where the US and coalition is losing is the media war. I read somewhere that bin Laden stated "90% of the battle" is through media. They aren't stupid when it comes to that stuff.

I just don't understand why people think one religion is "better" than the other. Don't people realize not one religion is exactly the same as it was when it was created? Things have been misinterpreted over the years especially through translation.

Both Christianity and Islam have their sordid pasts and even today, there are those who say they are Christian who do horrendous things in the name of Jesus or god. Bombing abortion clinics, the WBC, hate groups. Oh wait, "real" Christians don't claim them. Well "real" Muslims don't claim their fundamentalists either.

Again, this was the wrong reaction for those in Afghanistan, especially against innocent UN workers, but Terry Jones KNEW the result and should have shown restraint. He could have held his little "trial" without the end result burning the Quran. I do wonder why no news outlets reported it ('major' news) until after this? I think maybe they didn't want to give him the publicity...or they were too concerned with Libya. Or both.

Either way, this situation could have easily been avoided. What have Muslims done to Terry Jones specifically that he feels the need to constantly prod them?

BULL!

And if it were not for the policies of this website, I would have added the second half to it!

Islam did do this because Islam and its blind allegience is what caused this criminal action. It was Islam and the way these thugs were taught it that convinced them that when someone, anyone, claims Islam was insulted, offended, or whatever mild form of irritation gets their ire up, all morality and restraint is removed in the wrathful vengence the Islamic faithful is authorized to unleash on humanity!

We can do without your weak apologies for this religion that has many very significant problems within it, and for whom vastly too few who practice its faith are willing to adequately reform so that it may live in peace and solitude with the world.

[accotMask17]

They want us out. Fine lets leave and see what happens when the Taliban comes back and starts stoning women. Afghanastan is a waste of space. We haven found Bin Laden yet, and even if we did we probably wouldnt be allowed to bomb him because we'd hurt somebody's feelings. I dont blame that loon in FL for the attacks on UN facility, but he knew the response he was going to get and he went with it. That guy is a moron. I'm thinking about burning some bibles across the street from his church because I feel its against my religion. I'm sure he'd blow his top over that one. To many wackjobs in the world.

Yes, but he would not kill you nor find innocent people unfortunate enough to live near him to murder either! Like the Crucifix in urine shamelessly labeled artwork and displayed in a public art gallery, we Christians would protest it but not with violence!

Therein lies the vast difference! And while I agree the pastor in question is a media-seeking attention hound, and lacking in fundamental morality, the sad fact is that this muderous rampage against innocent people validated everything he claimed!

[cymnPrayerm]

Not every Muslim is an extremist. Nope no Christians ever retaliated in violence over anything. Do some history you'll see there is blood on Christians hands also.

[gregmcal]

Not every Muslim is an extremist. Nope no Christians ever retaliated in violence over anything. Do some history you'll see there is blood on Christians hands also.

That is the refuge one seeks when his original point is refuted!

If you now wish to change gears entirely and look at the entirety of human history, vice this situation, then that should require you start a new topic for discussion.

[Trebbinsa]

It's just funny how people chuck stones when they themselves live in a glass house. Not saying what the loonies in asscrackastan did was right but those crazies in FL knew exactly what was going to happen. All religions have their extremists. Just varying levels.

[AnimeThat]

I said those Afghans weren't right in their decision to kill those UN workers, did I not? However, just because that "pastor" has the right to burn the Quran or any book, does that mean he should have? Couldn't he have had his little "trial" without the result of the book burning?

I'm not saying Islam is any more right than Christianity. It's not. In fact I think all religions are extremely corrupted in this day and age. They have been misinterpreted over the thousands of years of their existence and have become perverted into something unrecognizable.

I never said that Jones forced anyone to kill innocents so twisting what I said into your statement is ridiculous. However his ACTION did cause an EFFECT. 9/11 happened because of a twisted and horrendous man who managed to recruit some equally horrendous people to pull of an attack on the US; not because our building were "too tall." Also my statement is not similar to saying people who make spoons cause obesity. But thanks for the sarcasm.

It wasn't really sarcasm, it was more of a comparison. Read your original post, the Pastor from Florida KNEW (your upper case) this would happen (his name ain't the Amazing Kreskin or Carnac the Magnificent). My comparison with the Twin Towers being too tall was a way to point out that people who had nothing to do with the quran being burned died, just like 3000 people who had nothing to do with whatever the hell the people who want to kill us and why they want to kill us. That was not my best sentence but I think you get what I'm saying. I've been hearing blame America crap since the Reagan administration and your original post struck me as exactly that. If I misinterpreted what you were sayin, my bad!

[UMATURLIN]

It's just funny how people chuck stones when they themselves live in a glass house. Not saying what the loonies in sacristan did was right but those crazies in FL knew exactly what was going to happen. All religions have their extremists. Just varying levels.

These "crazies" in Florida burned a book they paid for. No violation of law. These crazies in Afghanistan went after a UN headquarters and murdered as many people as they could. It is a horrible reflection of our world where we have to be careful about using the adjective "crazy" in applying it to human actions.

But, that is the reality we live in.

I for one do not believe it is reasonable to ask people to abridge their personal liberties because of the chance that other people might retaliate and murder people having nothing to do with the exercise of freedom in question.

To say extremists are in all religions but to varying levels is missing the essential element at work here.

Islam is the religion that fuels the worldwide jihadist movement that has resulted in the murders of tens of thousands of innocent people across the world! To that reality, there is no corollary at work! You cannot name a geographical region on the globe where Islamic terrorism and violence is not causing serious social problems.

If I merely listed the examples, it would take paragraphs. If I elaborated it would take pages of a book! If I went into detail, it would fill a small shelf!

The search for moral equivalency is alluring, but in this case specious. I am a Christian man, but I harbor you no ill will at all, and most certainly no desire for any tragic result! I respect your right to free speech, and frankly I do not know of any Christian organization in America (and please don't speak of the so-called Westboro Baptists, who are not Christians but a collection of lawyers trying to stir up problems to sue for money over) that would react anything remotely like has happened so often with Muslims.

You say the Florida pastor was wrong. Of course he was! No debate. But what about the Danish newspaper that published cartoons of Islam? Were they wrong? Or was the Muslim reaction wrong? At what point does the abridgment of freedoms to appease tyrants concern you?

I say it concerns me anytime it happens! Our liberties are not negotiable! In one of the few times I agree with the ACLU, it is not popular speech that needs protection, but rather the unpopular, even ridiculed speech such as this Quran burning that needs protection. Not protection in the sense of agreement. Far from it! But the protection that no harm comes to those who do it.

Look, if a Muslim man wants to walk up to that Florida pastor and punch him in the jaw hard, I'm actually OK with that. It would be assault and battery, but if I sat on the jury, I would not convict him! But, to go off on a murderous rampage, especially against totally innocent people? No, that not only invokes my outrage, but also my increased desire to protect free speech!

Because if we cave in to these senseless actions of violence by abridging our liberties, the truly evil forces on the globe will be emboldened to expand their efforts and next abridge the kind of speech that we not only defend, but also consider vital and valuable to our public discourse.

[wpFWNoIt]

They want us out. Fine lets leave and see what happens when the Taliban comes back and starts stoning women. Afghanastan is a waste of space. We haven found Bin Laden yet, and even if we did we probably wouldnt be allowed to bomb him because we'd hurt somebody's feelings. I dont blame that loon in FL for the attacks on UN facility, but he knew the response he was going to get and he went with it. That guy is a moron. I'm thinking about burning some bibles across the street from his church because I feel its against my religion. I'm sure he'd blow his top over that one. To many wackjobs in the world.

But would the burning of the bible cause him, his church or even the fringe group of "Christians" from Westboro come to your home and behead your family cause you burned a bible? This is the difference between the media propaganda Islam is a religion of piece, to the actions of what Islam actually stands for.

[unfolaReemoma]

I'm not saying Islam is any more right than Christianity. It's not. In fact I think all religions are extremely corrupted in this day and age. They have been misinterpreted over the thousands of years of their existence and have become perverted into something unrecognizable.

I would disagree. Look at the difference of Christianity and Islam. They both fought crusades to take the holy land. They both slaughtered thousands if not millions of people that stood in their way. But who in this day and age is still acting like it is the middle ages? Christians NOT swayed by the preacher but by the teachings of the bible are peaceful. The fringe group of Christians are Westboro and that is just disrespect, do you see anyone dying from their actions?

[zilsolley3]

It's just funny how people chuck stones when they themselves live in a glass house. Not saying what the loonies in asscrackastan did was right but those crazies in FL knew exactly what was going to happen. All religions have their extremists. Just varying levels.

And we know what we are going to be perceived as for attacking Libya. We shouldn't have done that either. Bet a few Quorans burned in the Tomahawk missile attacks. It seriously sounds like you are giving the people in "asscrackastan" a pass because they couldn't help themselves because this pastor knew what he was doing. That is so assigning, I guess you also agree that Columbine shooters weren't evil because the bullies knew what they were doing. Don't blame the preacher for the actions of another, blame the people that cut the heads off innocent bystanders in retaliation to a few pieces of paper being burned. Christians believe if someone burns a bible, God, and God alone will judge them for their actions. Islam is a religion of Children born from Judaism who hates their parents and wants them dead. Not even Christians hate Jews that much.

Both Christianity and Islam have their sordid pasts and even today, there are those who say they are Christian who do horrendous things in the name of Jesus or god. Bombing abortion clinics, the WBC, hate groups. Oh wait, "real" Christians don't claim them. Well "real" Muslims don't claim their fundamentalists either. Bombings of abortion clinics happen everyday? And do the Christians around the world condemn the bombings? Yes.

How many times a day is there a suicide bomber for Islam? And does the rest of the Islamic world condemn them for their actions? NO. The only ones that half heartily condemn the terrorist actions are the American Muslims, and only a few of them at that. Your comparison of Islam and Christianity is totally misconstrued.