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Old 02-28-2012, 07:51 AM   #1
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Default What's scarier than Obama with another policy "Idea?"
Absolutely nothing.
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:16 AM   #2
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Ooh, ooh, I know this one: "Santorum 2012"!
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Old 02-28-2012, 03:30 PM   #3
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Ooh, ooh, I know this one: "Santorum 2012"!
Well, Santorum being the GOP nominee is pretty scary, cause that means another 4 years of Obama....if we last that long.
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Old 02-28-2012, 03:37 PM   #4
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Absolutely nothing.
Bush some how getting mysteriously elected for a third term.
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:04 PM   #5
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Easy---Reelection!
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:23 PM   #6
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BRUWIN bitching about his retiree status and how us young whipper snappers pay him no attention.
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:48 PM   #7
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Well, Santorum being the GOP nominee is pretty scary, cause that means another 4 years of Obama....if we last that long.
One can only hope that is the case if Santorum becomes the GOP nominee.
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:22 PM   #8
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Well, Santorum being the GOP nominee is pretty scary, cause that means another 4 years of Obama....if we last that long.
Actually, as the current state of the Republican Party has shown, ANY Republican candidate from the current pack will result in President Obama winning in November.

I really sympathize, because we Democrats have been there in the past, and that condition is indeed scary beyond belief.
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:17 PM   #9
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Actually, as the current state of the Republican Party has shown, ANY Republican candidate from the current pack will result in President Obama winning in November.

I really sympathize, because we Democrats have been there in the past, and that condition is indeed scary beyond belief.
Very true. Although I wanted Bush out of office in 2004, I think that it was probably better that he stayed than having any of the Democrat candidates of the time in office. Their campaigns sucked, and it was all about "at least I'm not Bush."

And... we see the GOP making the same fatal mistake.

The GOP has moved WAY farther to the right than they were four years ago. Even McCain, Huckabee, and Giulliani agreed with Obama on many issues back in 2008.

This time around, it's not about who can do what's best for this country. It's about who disagrees with Obama the most, and on the highest number of issues. Who is the best at slamming Obama.

Huntsman failed, because he wasn't anti-Obama enough.

What we see here is a case where many Republican voters were so worried about who they were voting against, that they failed to properly choose the candidates that they want to vote FOR.

The only exception to that appears to be the Ron Paul supporters. But the man won't win. Seriously, America's situation need to be FIXED - not "experimented with." We need to get a bit more further ahead in the game before we can let Rudy on the field to play a little ball.

The man who stands the best chance of beating Obama is Mitt Romney. Out of the four that are left, he's the only one that can win votes from the moderates. We've known that ever since Newt Gingrich was Speaker of the House, that he could NEVER become president because of how far to the right he was. And now? Rick Santorum is showing that he is probably even less capable than Gingrich of winning votes from the moderates.

Mitt Romney's major flaw is that he doesn't identify with working people - he was born into the 1%, and his policies will favor them and big business just the same as with Bush. He's not going to get any Democrats to defect. But he can still win moderates, unlike the others. In the end? However much it's saying, he's the only man with a shot at beating Obama.
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Old 02-28-2012, 09:32 PM   #10
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Very true. Although I wanted Bush out of office in 2004, I think that it was probably better that he stayed than having any of the Democrat candidates of the time in office. Their campaigns sucked, and it was all about "at least I'm not Bush."
Scarrrrryyyy! I agree with 90% of what you said there, with small exceptions regarding Ron Paul and "experimentation", but we don't need to get into that here. One thing I made a commitment to early on before all of the drama was that I wouldn't get caught up in the "Nobama 2012" rhetoric, I think I've stayed relatively consistent at least in that regard, with a few minor exceptions which I think were still mostly based towards principle beliefs. It's probably people like me that will in fact give Obama four more years, because quite frankly I'm not a huge advocate of the "Hold your nose and vote" proposition.
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Old 02-29-2012, 04:38 AM   #11
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Huntsman failed, because he wasn't anti-Obama enough. He was the only candidate I had anything even remotely resembling respect for... and of course he was doomed to failure from the start.
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Old 02-29-2012, 04:50 AM   #12
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He was the only candidate I had anything even remotely resembling respect for... and of course he was doomed to failure from the start.
Huntsman was the ONLY candidate that would have been able to get some Democrats to defect.

All hope is lost for the GOP to be able to do that in the presidential election now.
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:19 PM   #13
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Actually, as the current state of the Republican Party has shown, ANY Republican candidate from the current pack will result in President Obama winning in November.

I really sympathize, because we Democrats have been there in the past, and that condition is indeed scary beyond belief.
Really? Is that what the latest polls show?

Romney leads Obama by 45 percent to 43, while Paul leads by 43 percent to 41. The poll shows the president still ahead of the other two candidates in the race: He leads Rick Santorum by 45 percent to 43, and holds a 49-39 margin over Newt Gingrich.
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:29 PM   #14
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Huntsman was the ONLY candidate that would have been able to get some Democrats to defect.

All hope is lost for the GOP to be able to do that in the presidential election now.
Guess that is true....if you take the MSM position and consider Ron Paul the "13th floor" of the GOP and try to ignore him. But then again, Paul gets more independent voters than Huntsman.
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Old 02-29-2012, 05:06 PM   #15
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What's scarier than Obama with another policy "Idea?"

I'll tell you: Obama being elected for another term! Now that's scary!!!
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Old 02-29-2012, 05:34 PM   #16
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Guess that is true....if you take the MSM position and consider Ron Paul the "13th floor" of the GOP and try to ignore him. But then again, Paul gets more independent voters than Huntsman.
We're going to have to address this eventually so might as well address it now. Ron Paul's campaign is suffering because its prospects at succeeding in the GOP primaries is doubtful with what has been taken on as the "Main Stream" GOP platform towards foreign policy, it has nothing to do with the notion of "experimentation in favor of solutions" in our government or anything of the sort (any solution not the status quo is an "experiment" by definition, the question is whether one likes the direction the "experimentation" takes). That rhetoric may work for the average MSNBC audience but the main stream Fox News audience has no real issue with Ron Paul's notion of smaller government. Winning in the primaries seems partially attributable as to how much you really hate Muslims, I know that's not going to go over well with some folks but its part of where the trends are, at least as far as Ron Paul is concerned. The 13th floor notion is mostly again the Fox News crowd, the networks that are actually a bit more "fair and balanced" actually do give him the time of day occasionally. (I'm not pairing Fox Business Network with FNC to make this distinction clear) Ron Paul's own campaign strategy has something in part to do with this, as he knows he's not going to get the red carpet welcome that Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich are going to get, and he's visibly growing tired of arguing with hawks.
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Old 02-29-2012, 05:51 PM   #17
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We're going to have to address this eventually so might as well address it now. Ron Paul's campaign is suffering because its prospects at succeeding in the GOP primaries is doubtful with what has been taken on as the "Main Stream" GOP platform towards foreign policy, it has nothing to do with the notion of "experimentation in favor of solutions" in our government or anything of the sort (any solution not the status quo is an "experiment" by definition, the question is whether one likes the direction the "experimentation" takes). That rhetoric may work for the average MSNBC audience but the main stream Fox News audience has no real issue with Ron Paul's notion of smaller government. Winning in the primaries seems partially attributable as to how much you really hate Muslims, I know that's not going to go over well with some folks but its part of where the trends are, at least as far as Ron Paul is concerned. The 13th floor notion is mostly again the Fox News crowd, the networks that are actually a bit more "fair and balanced" actually do give him the time of day occasionally. (I'm not pairing Fox Business Network with FNC to make this distinction clear) Ron Paul's own campaign strategy has something in part to do with this, as he knows he's not going to get the red carpet welcome that Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich are going to get, and he's visibly growing tired of arguing with hawks.
That is for damn sure when he said at the last debate, "Since you aren't going to listen to the morality or fiscal aspect of going to war, at least do it constitutionally and get congress to declare war. This is WAR DAMNIT, people are doing to DIE!!!"
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:13 PM   #18
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Guess that is true....if you take the MSM position and consider Ron Paul the "13th floor" of the GOP and try to ignore him. But then again, Paul gets more independent voters than Huntsman.
Seeing as how New Hampshire is a red state - and not only is it a red state, but the fact that it's not only the only red state in New England, but also the only one on the east coast north of Virginia; that state, the loner in a sea of blue states, happens to be a real anomaly that really can't used as any indicator of what will happen in the bigger picture.
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:58 PM   #19
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What's scarier than Obama with another policy "Idea?" Rick Santorum
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:33 PM   #20
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Amen brother.
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