LOGO
USA Society
USA social debate

Reply to Thread New Thread
Old 07-06-2011, 06:28 PM   #1
avaiftBoara

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
414
Senior Member
Default U.S. Warns Terrorists Might Try to Plant Bombs Inside of People
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...inside-people/

WASHINGTON -- The U.S. government has warned domestic and international airlines that some terrorists are considering surgically implanting explosives into humans to carry out attacks, The Associated Press has learned.

There is no intelligence pointing to a specific plot, but the U.S. shared its concerns last week with executives at domestic and international carriers.

People traveling to the U.S. from overseas may experience additional screening at airports because of the threat, according to the Transportation Security Administration.


So there is no intelligence of a specific plot stating that this is possible but more of a "just in case?" Do they realize the planning it would take to implant someone with a bomb? I don't think that any of the terrorist groups have the funding, the knowledge or the wherewithal to pull this off. It's quite possible that the person could detonate before they even got to the airport.

I guess if we see a lot of reports of people being blown up then we have our "intel" to support it.

So this I just read:

But there is new intelligence pointing to a fresh interest in using this tactic, a U.S. security official told the AP. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive security information.

I always love to read about "an official who spoke on condition of anonymity" to "discuss sensitive security information." But "new intelligence" pointing to a "fresh interest." Yeah it was probably one report that some random dude said "We should use people as bombs" or something. Yes if someone pulled this off, it could be very bad. I guess as long as the TSA doesn't start performing body cavity searches...
avaiftBoara is offline


Old 07-06-2011, 06:45 PM   #2
jincomplet

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
418
Senior Member
Default
Watch the movie "Man on Fire" starring Denzel Washington, especially the scene where he's under the bridge, interrogating one of the people linked to the kidnapping of Dakota Fanning's character...he shoves an explosive up this dude's ass and then detonates it remotely....
jincomplet is offline


Old 07-06-2011, 06:53 PM   #3
ttoothh

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
263
Senior Member
Default
Watch the movie "Man on Fire" starring Denzel Washington, especially the scene where he's under the bridge, interrogating one of the people linked to the kidnapping of Dakota Fanning's character...he shoves an explosive up this dude's ass and then detonates it remotely....
I am sure that tickled just a little bit.

Back to the OP...

Wasn't this the warning the media and common sense type individuals gave out when the full body scanners and pat downs started by the TSA?
ttoothh is offline


Old 07-06-2011, 07:01 PM   #4
Chooriwrocafn

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
457
Senior Member
Default
Joker, I think Habib might try the same approach, and shove some C-4 up his turd-slicer with a detonating pin attached to it. He'll have Fahrouk and Mehmet standing near-by with the remote in hand, ready to push the button when it's time.

Habib: Fahrouk and Mehmet, IED is firmly up ahnoos.

Fahrouk: This is wonderful, Habib! Mohammed be praised!

Mehmet: So press button like this?

Habib: By the beard of Allah, Mehmet! Not now!

*Explosion*

Chooriwrocafn is offline


Old 07-06-2011, 07:25 PM   #5
dfuzioniag

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
597
Senior Member
Default
Is this the latest conspiracy theory our political masters have come up with?

How would such a plan even make sense? I'm not an explosives expert, but I doubt you could put a particularly large bomb inside a (living) human body, anally, surgically, or swallowed.

They'd be better just showing up to the lines outside airport security and tossing a grenade into the middle of the crowd. Hell, you could toss a fake grenade and shout "Allah Akbar", and a bunch of people would get killed in the panicked stampede. The equivalent of shouting "fire" in a theater.
dfuzioniag is offline


Old 07-06-2011, 07:27 PM   #6
HornyMolly

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
661
Senior Member
Default
Wasn't this the warning the media and common sense type individuals gave out when the full body scanners and pat downs started by the TSA?
The backscatter machines only detect what's on the outside of the body - spurred by the Christmas underwear bomber. This is an opportunity for perverts to apply to be screeners. "Look, I brought my own gloves!"
HornyMolly is offline


Old 07-06-2011, 08:30 PM   #7
sDePrx59

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
442
Senior Member
Default
Next time the TSA does a body search on me, I'm going to have them sign a release form, saying they will not sue me if I get excited and 'release' myself accidentally...!

sDePrx59 is offline


Old 07-06-2011, 08:49 PM   #8
Hsmrcahr

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
429
Senior Member
Default
Is this the latest conspiracy theory our political masters have come up with?

How would such a plan even make sense? I'm not an explosives expert, but I doubt you could put a particularly large bomb inside a (living) human body, anally, surgically, or swallowed.

They'd be better just showing up to the lines outside airport security and tossing a grenade into the middle of the crowd. Hell, you could toss a fake grenade and shout "Allah Akbar", and a bunch of people would get killed in the panicked stampede. The equivalent of shouting "fire" in a theater.
Actually it's been done...or at least attempted. Turned out the bomber only killed himself though...minor injuries to his target.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-backside.html
Hsmrcahr is offline


Old 07-06-2011, 10:17 PM   #9
masterboyz

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
586
Senior Member
Default
So, are any of you saying that someone couldn't have enough Semtex or C4 surgically implanted into them (no need to worry about infection or being overly skillful) and detonate it aboard an airplane with catostrophic results ? The normal TSA measures would be ineffective (either pat down or scatter machines) because it would be inside the person.

I'm not saying this is actually in the planning stages, but theoretically it could pose a major problem for screening at airports if someone could figure out how to do it without inadvertent detonation. Hell, you could kill more people in the crowded terminal than aboard the plane, and the entire terminal would be shut down indefinitely.
masterboyz is offline


Old 07-07-2011, 12:44 AM   #10
kjsdiuwe

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
508
Senior Member
Default
The Batman movie Heath Ledger played the Joker. Used a cell phone to detonate a bomb in another prisoner to blow up the jail. Makes sense, Stephan Hawking decided the aliens coming here might not be friendly, maybe he saw Independence Day, or War of the Worlds, or any other movie where the aliens try to kill us.
kjsdiuwe is offline


Old 07-07-2011, 12:57 AM   #11
tropicana

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
506
Senior Member
Default
Is this the latest conspiracy theory our political masters have come up with?

How would such a plan even make sense? I'm not an explosives expert, but I doubt you could put a particularly large bomb inside a (living) human body, anally, surgically, or swallowed.

They'd be better just showing up to the lines outside airport security and tossing a grenade into the middle of the crowd. Hell, you could toss a fake grenade and shout "Allah Akbar", and a bunch of people would get killed in the panicked stampede. The equivalent of shouting "fire" in a theater.
Or detonate a car bomb right outside international arrivals....
tropicana is offline


Old 07-07-2011, 12:58 AM   #12
ibupronec

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
365
Senior Member
Default
Watch the movie "Man on Fire" starring Denzel Washington, especially the scene where he's under the bridge, interrogating one of the people linked to the kidnapping of Dakota Fanning's character...he shoves an explosive up this dude's ass and then detonates it remotely....
Yes I've seen the movie - that's not really the same thing. He was just trying to kill that guy. This would be terrorists trying to cause mass murder.

I said it's plausible. But it's funny that it's always someone "anonymous" who isn't allowed to speak on the "sensitive nature" who do this. It's probably an analyst who saw one report and went to the news. For them to target an airport, there would be an extreme amount of planning to be done.
ibupronec is offline


Old 07-07-2011, 01:00 AM   #13
ruforumczspam

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
430
Senior Member
Default
So, are any of you saying that someone couldn't have enough Semtex or C4 surgically implanted into them (no need to worry about infection or being overly skillful) and detonate it aboard an airplane with catostrophic results ? The normal TSA measures would be ineffective (either pat down or scatter machines) because it would be inside the person.

I'm not saying this is actually in the planning stages, but theoretically it could pose a major problem for screening at airports if someone could figure out how to do it without inadvertent detonation. Hell, you could kill more people in the crowded terminal than aboard the plane, and the entire terminal would be shut down indefinitely.
Again, it's quite possible for an attack like this to occur - however you need money, logistics, and willing participants. And explosives that won't prematurely detonate only killing the person the explosives are in.
ruforumczspam is offline


Old 07-07-2011, 01:01 AM   #14
SM9WI8oI

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
412
Senior Member
Default
The Batman movie Heath Ledger played the Joker. Used a cell phone to detonate a bomb in another prisoner to blow up the jail. Makes sense, Stephan Hawking decided the aliens coming here might not be friendly, maybe he saw Independence Day, or War of the Worlds, or any other movie where the aliens try to kill us.
Movies as your source huh? Not sure what aliens have to do with terrorist bombings though.
SM9WI8oI is offline


Old 07-07-2011, 02:16 AM   #15
aliceingoogs

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
607
Senior Member
Default
Again, it's quite possible for an attack like this to occur - however you need money, logistics, and willing participants. And explosives that won't prematurely detonate only killing the person the explosives are in.
Our adversaries have all these things at their disposal. Neither Semtex or C4 will explode without a trigger, I don't think.
aliceingoogs is offline


Old 07-07-2011, 02:47 AM   #16
asypecresty

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
382
Senior Member
Default
they wont, you can chew c4 without it going off.
asypecresty is offline


Old 07-07-2011, 10:44 AM   #17
Sopsneork

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
404
Senior Member
Default
It wouldn't work, trust me on that.
Sopsneork is offline


Old 07-07-2011, 12:57 PM   #18
Cd9JfGHR

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
491
Senior Member
Default
Movies as your source huh? Not sure what aliens have to do with terrorist bombings though.
It was in the movie, not saying it was possible, just sayin it was in the movie. Maybe the dude/dudette who came up with this as a threat to our aircraft saw it on TV while half-asleep, maybe the bad guys saw it on Blu-Ray in there cave, I dunno, just throwin it out there. Aliens have to do with movies as sources of info (aliens aren't nice and want to kill us as in movie A and B) rather than terrorists. I tend to jump around while posting, but not that much.
Cd9JfGHR is offline


Old 07-07-2011, 02:12 PM   #19
Nabeqiv

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
481
Senior Member
Default
Actually it's been done...or at least attempted. Turned out the bomber only killed himself though...minor injuries to his target.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-backside.html
Now THAT'S interesting.

So, are any of you saying that someone couldn't have enough Semtex or C4 surgically implanted into them (no need to worry about infection or being overly skillful) and detonate it aboard an airplane with catostrophic results ? The normal TSA measures would be ineffective (either pat down or scatter machines) because it would be inside the person.
Problem that I suggested, and MM's link also shows - is that while blowing yourself up from an internal explosive is possible, its difficult to cause serious damage to the people and environment around you. If the guy who attacked that Saudi Prince had instead detonated inside an airplane - he might have killed a few people, but it is highly unlikely he could have downed the plane. Depressurized it maybe, but that doesn't quite qualify as "catastrophic results".
Nabeqiv is offline


Old 07-08-2011, 12:27 AM   #20
MADwanker

Join Date
Oct 2005
Posts
455
Senior Member
Default
It all depends on how much explosive charge he's able to pack in an open cavity.
MADwanker is offline



Reply to Thread New Thread

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:51 AM.
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Design & Developed by Amodity.com
Copyright© Amodity