[gniewkoit]

How sick are we that people think a woman being able to kill a baby cause she might look fat is a right.

Wow, hate women much?

[ancexttew]

If you want to save a child from abortion then go to one of the many agencies that arrange for the adoption of children from mothers planning abortions, otherwise, shut up, as it's not your body and you truly have no right to have an opinion, one way or the other.

It would be truly wonderful if you would apply that logic, such as it is, to other issues.

[Yinekol]

I have to second Steve's call for sources, methinks you made it up.

let me get right on that. How about the third Tuesday of the week? I actually know someone who did this cause she didnt want to get fat. Matters little cause no reason is enough to kill the innocent in the womb. We as a society seemed to have declared war on the unborn.

[Yinekol]

Wow, hate women much?

why say that? Not all women are that depraved.

[wmhardware]

let me get right on that. How about the third Tuesday of the week? I actually know someone who did this cause she didnt want to get fat.

Ok, so one twisted chick speaks for all women now?

Matters little cause no reason is enough to kill the innocent in the womb. We as a society seemed to have declared war on the unborn. I'd argue that you only give a crap about kids until they're born, then they can die in a fire.

People love to complain about abortion but no one is willing to pay a little more taxes if it means kids' schools have enough funding and they're plenty happy to see programs like WIC and Medicare, which kids and their parents depend on, get their funding slashed. I didnt hear too many objections to cutting funding for Planned Parenthood which provides women's health services that include prenatal care information and resources, gynecological testing, cancer screenings, and access to birth control and comprehensive sex education (to prevent people from NEEDING abortions).

So the message I get from this is, kids are only important until they're born, then screw the little bastards.

[Repwailia]

If you want to save a child from abortion then go to one of the many agencies that arrange for the adoption of children from mothers planning abortions, otherwise, shut up, as it's not your body and you truly have no right to have an opinion, one way or the other.

Abortion is the Final Solution for getting rid of the no account lazy bums you find in the lower classes. I would think all Cons would be for that. That Libs are for it disgusts me.

Oh, by your own beliefs, if I saw a person literally beating his kid to death, I should just let them do it. Not my kid. Not my family, and she owns her body, so if she doesn't like what she produced, she has the right to kill it.

How about this. If a women does not want the inconvenience of a kid, and she is pregnant, why don't we just appoint some official group to kill her too. It should be our right to get rid of the murdering bitches, as they are a grave danger to life itself. In my book, anyone who kills a defenseless human, in the womb does not deserve the right to breath this air. When human life is no longer of great importance, we are no better than fucking dogs who eat their own young. So lets treat those folks like what they are, and give em a dose of their own medicine.

[CymnMaync]

I actually don't understand why (much of) the anti-abortion crowd makes an exemption for cases of rape and incest. Either abortion is murder, or it isn't; either a fetus has a right to live, or it doesn't.

There's also the fact that the entire human race today has "rape and incest" in its lineage. Somewhere in each of our past bloodlines, was a rape or case of incest that eventually led to our existence.

We're justifying murder of a genuine innocent for the sins of another.

That's ok ?

Abortion is the Final Solution for getting rid of the no account lazy bums you find in the lower classes. I would think all Cons would be for that. That Libs are for it disgusts me.

Oh, by your own beliefs, if I saw a person literally beating his kid to death, I should just let them do it. Not my kid. Not my family, and she owns her body, so if she doesn't like what she produced, she has the right to kill it.

How about this. If a women does not want the inconvenience of a kid, and she is pregnant, why don't we just appoint some official group to kill her too. It should be our right to get rid of the murdering bitches, as they are a grave danger to life itself. In my book, anyone who kills a defenseless human, in the womb does not deserve the right to breath this air. When human life is no longer of great importance, we are no better than fucking dogs who eat their own young. So lets treat those folks like what they are, and give em a dose of their own medicine.

That may not be far off with the criminal "lawmakers" we have running America today.

[OWV9LSxH]

Again, this makes no logical sense. The "right to life" crowd believe that abortion is murder because the fetus is a person with a right to live. Rape and incest cannot possibly justify murder, can it?

(Just to be clear, I do not believe that abortion is murder. I am simply pointing out that those who believe abortion is murder must believe, if they are being logically consistent, that abortion is murder regardless of the circumstances under which the fetus was conceived. Anything else is a moral cop-out.)

Maybe it's like the differences between murder and involuntary manslaughter. Both are the result of a human killing another human, but the circumstances are a huge difference.

(just guessing, I'm pro-choice myself)

[himecthekWiff]

Some things never change.

So because you don't approve of that lifestyle, we must assume that it is always without consent?

[yK2VgoEI]

So because you don't approve of that lifestyle, we must assume that it is always without consent?

If the child is 3 months old, it cannot consent. If the child is 3 years old, it cannot consent. If the child is 13 years old, it cannot consent. What part of that is so difficult for you to understand?

[Yinekol]

Ok, so one twisted chick speaks for all women now?


I'd argue that you only give a crap about kids until they're born, then they can die in a fire.

People love to complain about abortion but no one is willing to pay a little more taxes if it means kids' schools have enough funding and they're plenty happy to see programs like WIC and Medicare, which kids and their parents depend on, get their funding slashed. I didnt hear too many objections to cutting funding for Planned Parenthood which provides women's health services that include prenatal care information and resources, gynecological testing, cancer screenings, and access to birth control and comprehensive sex education (to prevent people from NEEDING abortions).

So the message I get from this is, kids are only important until they're born, then screw the little bastards.

don't presume to know what I believe. Why is it liberals only seem to carw about is Kuo.g of the defenless?

[himecthekWiff]

If the child is 3 months old, it cannot consent. If the child is 3 years old, it cannot consent. If the child is 13 years old, it cannot consent. What part of that is so difficult for you to understand?

What part of that has anything to do with the topic? I was talking about incest. Last I checked, there was no age limit on that. Now please stick to the topic.

[Bondjrno]

I actually don't understand why (much of) the anti-abortion crowd makes an exemption for cases of rape and incest. Either abortion is murder, or it isn't; either a fetus has a right to live, or it doesn't.

Stripping a woman of her rights to decide what happens with her body is her punishment for consenting to sex, which after all, makes her a whore.
And what we need in this country are more children of whores, to boost Republican ranks.

[WrinnaArraple]

(Reuters) - Henry Hyde, a champion of the anti-abortion movement, might turn over in his grave if he knew that a provision of law he authored was an obstacle to individual states banning abortion.

The Hyde Amendment, named for the Illinois Republican who served in Congress for 32 years and died in 2007, initially barred the use of certain federal funds, namely Medicaid health insurance for the poor, to pay for abortion. But the provision, which has been attached to U.S. spending bills since 1976, was changed in 1977 to allow exceptions for pregnancies that result from rape or incest.

In a strange twist of fate, the Hyde Amendment -- whose purpose was to deny federal funding for abortions -- has become a stumbling block in efforts to stop abortions altogether, said Keith Mason, founder and president of the anti-abortion group Personhood USA. "A compromise in legislation that was part of the pro-life movement is the very hurdle that we have to overcome," he told Reuters.

This week lawmakers in Louisiana's state House effectively killed a bill that would have banned abortion outright. The author of that failed bill said lawmakers were put off by a state fiscal analysis that showed that $4.5 billion in federal funds could be at risk if the state criminalizes rape- and incest-related abortion, putting state law out of compliance with Hyde. Anti-abortion efforts in states hit obstacle of own making | Reuters

Anything that slows down the erosion of women's rights is good enough for me.

[eskimosik]

Abortion, in the case of rape and/or incest, should never, ever be denied and, as much as I don't want to see federal funds being used to provide abortions for women who simply get pregnant during recreational sex, I would support them being used in cases of rape and/or incest...

[feannigvogten]

So, include an exemption for documented rape and incest.

[eskimosik]

So, include an exemption for documented rape and incest.

I'd have no problem with that.

I believe a woman who engages in recreational sex should have the right to choose to have an abortion. I also believe that she should have to foot the bill...

[Yinekol]

How sick are we that people think a woman being able to kill a baby cause she might look fat is a right.

[new-nickname-zanovo]

How sick are we that people think a woman being able to kill a baby cause she might look fat is a right.

You make a good point, because as I understand it, that's what the entire abortion debate is about: The right to look thin.

[new-nickname-zanovo]

Abortion, in the case of rape and/or incest, should never, ever be denied and, as much as I don't want to see federal funds being used to provide abortions for women who simply get pregnant during recreational sex, I would support them being used in cases of rape and/or incest...

I actually don't understand why (much of) the anti-abortion crowd makes an exemption for cases of rape and incest. Either abortion is murder, or it isn't; either a fetus has a right to live, or it doesn't.