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Old 01-30-2010, 08:31 PM   #21
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Old 01-30-2010, 09:30 PM   #22
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Think, if Osama was dead wouldn't Mr. Mission Accomplished have plastered it everywhere ? Instead he said this -----


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Old 01-30-2010, 10:29 PM   #23
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Think, if Osama was dead wouldn't Mr. Mission Accomplished have plastered it everywhere ? Instead he said this -----


haha, thats funny. once we declare war on something, it never goes away, it costs us more money and only gets worse. war on poverty, war on drugs, and now war on terror. this is a tax on your children and their children. it subsidizes the military industrial complex. (us spends more money on military then rest of world combined) this war on terror replaced the cold war, you see.

war is peaces, freedom is slavery.
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Old 01-30-2010, 10:51 PM   #24
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haha, thats funny. once we declare war on something, it never goes away, it costs us more money and only gets worse. war on poverty, war on drugs, and now war on terror. this is a tax on your children and their children. it subsidizes the military industrial complex. (us spends more money on military then rest of world combined) this war on terror replaced the cold war, you see.

war is peaces, freedom is slavery.
At least we were sure that Osama was responsible for 9/11 and we took our eye off the target and let him settle in Pakistan with Omar and the rest of his followers. At least now they are looking over their shoulders for missiles from drones and knowing that they cannot operate in the open without a very real risk of being blown off the map.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:16 AM   #25
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So Osama Bin Laden before taking up violent jihadism against the West was the sone of an incredibly wealthy Saudi family that made all of its money building oil-related infrastructure. Basically Haliburton for the Saudi royals.

Wouldn't all of his family's wealth be pretty direct global warming blood-money?
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:18 AM   #26
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At least we were sure that Osama was responsible for 9/11 and we took our eye off the target and let him settle in Pakistan with Omar and the rest of his followers. At least now they are looking over their shoulders for missiles from drones and knowing that they cannot operate in the open without a very real risk of being blown off the map.
Yep.

It took a democratic president to actually focus on our real enemy. if only Al Gore were elected, we might have been focused on Bin Laden instead of Pappy Bush's nemesis in Iraq and maybe-just maybe-we would have gotten him!
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:19 AM   #27
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So Osama Bin Laden before taking up violent jihadism against the West was the sone of an incredibly wealthy Saudi family that made all of its money building oil-related infrastructure. Basically Haliburton for the Saudi royals.

Wouldn't all of his family's wealth be pretty direct global warming blood-money?
And your trying to get logic from a crazy religious nut, shame on you.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:24 AM   #28
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It is sort of depressing that their religious nuts are more open to the scientific evidence for global warming than our religious nuts are.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:28 AM   #29
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Yep.

It took a democratic president to actually focus on our real enemy. if only Al Gore were elected, we might have been focused on Bin Laden instead of Pappy Bush's nemesis in Iraq and maybe-just maybe-we would have gotten him!
9/11 was a horrible thing but the attack only came from one source. No sane person on earth would have blamed us for hitting Osama and friends with everything at our disposal. Al Qaeda numbers were small and there is a good chance we could caught them before they had a chance to flee. Oh well woulda, coulda, shoulda. Water over the dam. It's only American lives.
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Old 01-31-2010, 06:48 PM   #30
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9/11 was a horrible thing but the attack only came from one source. No sane person on earth would have blamed us for hitting Osama and friends with everything at our disposal. Al Qaeda numbers were small and there is a good chance we could caught them before they had a chance to flee. Oh well woulda, coulda, shoulda. Water over the dam. It's only American lives.
it amazing that they found mohammed atta's passport a block and a half away in the rubble of the wtc. while none of the black boxes that day were recovered. not from wtc, not from the pentagon and not from shanksville pa. so this was an important piece of "evidence". wow, i also almost forgot that three buildings fell that day at the wtc complex. 1, 2, and 7. also amazing that all three of them just imploded upon themselves when only two planes crashed into the complex, kinda like when they demolish old vegas casinos. it was only time in history that a steel framed structure collapsed due to fire. those al qaeda guys sure got lucky that day. somehow they even got norad to stand down, normal protocol is that when a plane goes off course and is unresponsive for two minutes, they scrable jet fighters to intercept, yet it was over an hour from the first plane hit the wtc that the final plane hit the our most sensitive building (pentagon). oh, and what happened to the anti-aircraft missles at the pentagon too? hmmm, boy those mean turbin wearing box cutter carrying guys sure got lucky that day huh.
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Old 01-31-2010, 07:11 PM   #31
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That is the most amazing thing in this whole story, millions and millions of pieces of paper blowing in the wind , and yet Mohammad Atta's passport is found.
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Old 01-31-2010, 07:19 PM   #32
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it amazing that they found mohammed atta's passport a block and a half away in the rubble of the wtc. while none of the black boxes that day were recovered. not from wtc, not from the pentagon and not from shanksville pa. so this was an important piece of "evidence". wow, i also almost forgot that three buildings fell that day at the wtc complex. 1, 2, and 7. also amazing that all three of them just imploded upon themselves when only two planes crashed into the complex, kinda like when they demolish old vegas casinos. it was only time in history that a steel framed structure collapsed due to fire. those al qaeda guys sure got lucky that day. somehow they even got norad to stand down, normal protocol is that when a plane goes off course and is unresponsive for two minutes, they scrable jet fighters to intercept, yet it was over an hour from the first plane hit the wtc that the final plane hit the our most sensitive building (pentagon). oh, and what happened to the anti-aircraft missles at the pentagon too? hmmm, boy those mean turbin wearing box cutter carrying guys sure got lucky that day huh.
and who was in charge of security at the WTC ? It is possible that this was allowed to happen but in spite of my avatar I don't believe all theories. I've read a lot of theories about this and although some of them are sort of possible they would have involved so many people that some valid info would have leaked out.

I question why Osama was not hunted down and killed or captured. We gave billions to Pakistan with no material results until President Obama put their feet to the fire. Unfortunately the weed that is Al Qaeda had time to grow long roots.
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Old 01-31-2010, 07:27 PM   #33
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and who was in charge of security at the WTC ? It is possible that this was allowed to happen but in spite of my avatar I don't believe all theories. I've read a lot of theories about this and although some of them are sort of possible they would have involved so many people that some valid info would have leaked out.

I question why Osama was not hunted down and killed or captured. We gave billions to Pakistan with no material results until President Obama put their feet to the fire. Unfortunately the weed that is Al Qaeda had time to grow long roots.
good question, the company responsible for the security at the world trade center was called Securacom, and a principal in that company was marvin bush, president bush's younger bro. i believe that company was also responsible for the security at dulles airport that day as well.

speaking of al qaeda, dont forget where they got their fertilizer from, it was the cia, who continued to water their roots up til 9/11.

and of bin laden, why was it that in the days after 9/11 when all airport traffic was grounded, his family (brother, cousins, etc) was gathered up and allowed to fly out of the country? that one is strange too.
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Old 01-31-2010, 07:57 PM   #34
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YouTube - Archive: Gary Berntsen on the hunt for Bin Laden

This guy had him, and we let him go. Who made that call.
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:00 PM   #35
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good question, the company responsible for the security at the world trade center was called Securacom, and a principal in that company was marvin bush, president bush's younger bro. i believe that company was also responsible for the security at dulles airport that day as well.

speaking of al qaeda, dont forget where they got their fertilizer from, it was the cia, who continued to water their roots up til 9/11.

and of bin laden, why was it that in the days after 9/11 when all airport traffic was grounded, his family (brother, cousins, etc) was gathered up and allowed to fly out of the country? that one is strange too.
Marvin also moved a meeting scheduled for 9/11 to another location. Anything as important a 9/11 is going to raise a lot questions and speculation but unless someone with credibility steps forward to collaborate a plot it will be impossible to prove. The idea of explosives in the towers is an interesting theory but seems very improbable.

One thing in the back of my mind is that because of sanctions the oil production from Iraq was reduced and possibly a gas pipeline in Afghanistan was stalled because of the Taliban. Perhaps our overreaction to 9/11 was intended to solve those problems

I would hope that the POTUS would not send our country into a war over something that could be dealt with in other ways. These things are good to exercise the mind but may not be true or ever be able to be proved.
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:04 PM   #36
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YouTube - Archive: Gary Berntsen on the hunt for Bin Laden

This guy had him, and we let him go. Who made that call.
Could it have someone who had a business partnership with His brother ?

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Old 01-31-2010, 08:10 PM   #37
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YouTube - Delta Force commander explains how close they came to catching Osama Bin Laden

YouTube - The Hunt For Bin Laden

So did this guy, and he flat out tells you he was denied the chance to capture or kill him
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:18 PM   #38
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Any ham-n-egger can put a video of his drunk uncle falling into the kiddie pool, but we haven't seen a video that's even vaguely convincing of his still being alive in over five years.

Yet some people think he's still alive?
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:30 PM   #39
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Any ham-n-egger can put a video of his drunk uncle falling into the kiddie pool, but we haven't seen a video that's even vaguely convincing of his still being alive in over five years.

Yet some people think he's still alive?
To my knowledge no one has said the tapes released since then were fake. He may be very messed up and to show that might put a kink in his invincible image. For whatever reason Bush dropped the ball and let Al Qaeda regroup as evidenced by their current activity.
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Any ham-n-egger can put a video of his drunk uncle falling into the kiddie pool, but we haven't seen a video that's even vaguely convincing of his still being alive in over five years.

Yet some people think he's still alive?
When was the last video you saw of JD Salinger being alive?

For the 50984239th time, absence of evidence IS NOT evidence of absence.
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