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Old 02-27-2007, 09:33 AM   #1
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Default Under the radar; Iraq's oil law draft approved
Iraq prepares to allow foreign firms to exploit its oil and gas riches
By Damien McElroy in Baghdad
Last Updated: 1:18am GMT 27/02/2007


Iraqi leaders yesterday approved a draft law opening the country's oil reserves to foreign investors.

Iraq prepares to allow foreign firms to exploit its oil and gas riches | International News | News | Telegraph Think the worst about the invasion- and it's all true.

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Old 02-27-2007, 10:21 AM   #2
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I fail to see what the big friggin deal is here.
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:32 AM   #3
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I may be writing more on this later, if I have the stomach for it, but read through the above New York Times report on the new oil law approved by the Iraqi government – and gasp in shock-and-awed wonder that the leading newspaper in the United States could file a story like this and only note – in the next-to-last paragraph – that Iraq's oil will controlled by the iron fist of a "central body called the Federal Oil and Gas Council" which will have "a panel of oil experts from inside and outside Iraq" as part of the operation… without telling us that these "oil experts" will in fact be executives and representatives of American and other Western oil companies

http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/war-...le-begins.html Well, the last thing I want to see in Iraq is anybody, anybody at all, other than Iraqis profiting from their natural resources. In particular, I'd also be 'sick to the stomach' if any profits went to anybody associated with Bushy.
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:41 AM   #4
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I take it you aren't a fan of Capitalism?
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:51 AM   #5
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So, one of the benchmarks of America staying in Iraq is that the Shia controlled gov't has to sell it's oil to foreign interests. I get that, but since the Kurds control half the oil and the Sunnis hate the Shias, that won't make for conflict will it? Hmmm.
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:05 AM   #6
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Think the worst about the invasion- and it's all true.

How many times have we "peaceniks" proven right by now? We were right about WMD, we were right about post-war planning, we were right about insurgency, about terrorism, human rights abuse, corruption, and now we are proven right on the oil-issue.
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:32 AM   #7
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Yeah, the Iraqis have shown they are perfectly capable of handling their oil on their own.

EDIT: Also, if this was all about oil, why hasn't this been done sooner? And why isn't America the only nation that gets control? The whole war for oil argument simply does not stand up.
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:56 AM   #8
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The whole war for oil argument simply does not stand up. Not entirely, until today. Now it does.
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:01 PM   #9
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Halliburton has some of the biggest contracts of them all, so if this was never about oil than why are they there? The goodness of their hearts? This makes the oil for food scandal look petty.
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:02 PM   #10
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Not entirely, until today. Now it does.
No it doesn't. Iraq is opening up their oil to the foreign market, not just the American market. If we, America, went into Iraq simply for oil wouldn't it make more sense for us to have total rights to their oil?
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:02 PM   #11
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Halliburton has some of the biggest contracts of them all, so if this was never about oil than why are they there? The goodness of their hearts? This makes the oil for food scandal look petty.
As much as I dislike Halliburton, they are one of the few companies in the world that can do the friggin job.
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:07 PM   #12
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Not entirely, until today. Now it does.
It always did, this is just more proof. The invasion and occupation was about getting at the oil in Iraq, nothing more nuanced than that. Now there's a government installed that will open Iraq's oil to western - note western not American - oil companies.

Time for Bush to get that Mission Accomplished banner out, it's nearly ready for another showing.
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:10 PM   #13
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No it doesn't. Iraq is opening up their oil to the foreign market, not just the American market. If we, America, went into Iraq simply for oil wouldn't it make more sense for us to have total rights to their oil?
No it wouldn't. Think about it. The US didn't want Iraq's oil, certain western oil companies wanted Iraq's oil. The military invasion and occupation of Iraq by western governments was carried out to secure the oil interests for the oil corporations not the governments of the US and the UK. Western economies don't work that way.
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:10 PM   #14
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So, the Iraqis are free to deal with their oil on their own, as long as our people do the work and run the show in Iraq? Freedom on a leash, gotta love it.
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:11 PM   #15
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It always did, this is just more proof. The invasion and occupation was about getting at the oil in Iraq, nothing more nuanced than that. Now there's a government installed that will open Iraq's oil to western - note western not American - oil companies.

Time for Bush to get that Mission Accomplished banner out, it's nearly ready for another showing.
France can get oil from Iraq, Germany can get oil from Iraq, and any other country that was against the war can get oil from Iraq. If we (America) went into Iraq simply for oil, why are we letting these other countries have any? Why isn't it simply going to us and our allies?
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:14 PM   #16
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No it wouldn't. Think about it. The US didn't want Iraq's oil, certain western oil companies wanted Iraq's oil. The military invasion and occupation of Iraq by western governments was carried out to secure the oil interests for the oil corporations not the governments of the US and the UK. Western economies don't work that way.
Your point still doesn't make sense. Why doesn't the US government make sure only US oil companies have control then? After all, we went in for the oil, why don't we get all the oil and all the profits along with it?
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:15 PM   #17
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So, the Iraqis are free to deal with their oil on their own, as long as our people do the work and run the show in Iraq? Freedom on a leash, gotta love it.
Since the invasion, the Iraqis have not shown they can handle their oil industry by themselves.
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:16 PM   #18
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Your point still doesn't make sense. Why doesn't the US government make sure only US oil companies have control then? After all, we went in for the oil, why don't we get all the oil and all the profits along with it?
Don't forget Poland!!!!

In this case don't forget BP and Shell
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[quote]Don't forget Poland!!!!

In this case don't forget BP and Shell
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:22 PM   #20
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Since the invasion, the Iraqis have not shown they can handle their oil industry by themselves.
That's probably why the invasion had to happen. Before the invasion they were handling it fine, just not to the approval of the US and the UK.
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