[Pharmadryg]

we should draft all illegals into thea army.. anounce we are doing so.. if you get caught without green card or citzenship.. you go to war.. i bett this would stop illegal imigration heh heh.

great... you want to train and arm those that come into our country illegally?

[Pharmadryg]

The Mexicans are coming! The Mexicans are coming! Going to reclaim Tejas and California eh? And Nuevo Mexico and Arizona as well?

Pah, watch out for China - the big creditor.

yep... the new new mexico... then they'll move east... to gobble up everyone else...

maybe the government should CLOSE the damn border... thebushites sure CLAIM they're for national security but when push comes to shove, it just ain't happening...

[LesLattis]

great... you want to train and arm those that come into our country illegally?

But we've done just that... not with a draft, but allowing illegals to sign up for the volunteer army.

But, it's not like the illegals are any more violent as a people group than the general U.S. population, so why the hysteria?

[Seiblybiozy]

Jim Brown
One News Now
February 22, 2007

-2,158 murders are committed every year by illegal aliens in the U.S.

Actually Hank, I think the actual figure is much much higher.
There have been many murders that point to gangs formed by illegals but they can't prove it until they capture the suspects.
Some cases that I am talking about is from the gang M13.

[kranfid]

Ten times as many Americans die in car accidents every year as have died in Iraq. Maybe we should ban the sale of gasoline?

[Sironimoll]

Originally Posted by varrussword
Unless you have lived in Cali, Texas, Az, or any of those other states bordering mexico you simply can't understand. This isn't about race it's about a certain people that are fleeing their native country as quickly as possible with the hope of a better life. So if we're not going to actually deport illegals the only solution can be to annex Mexico and force them to pay taxes. I was raised in Corpus Christi and when 80% of the population is mexican and most of them are illegals or related to illegals that are living in the US there's something wrong. Something is wrong but you're not getting the answer. Two things drive the American economy. And ever increasing desire for more profits and an ever increasing drive to lower the price for goods over time. It is interesting that your solution is the military conquering of a HUGE nation, essentially transforming America into Germany of the 30s instead of looking inward at excess and wastefulness in our own nation. How about actually paying Americans a living wage to do the jobs that immigrants do illegally. Yes it would mean higher prices for all of us, and it would mean less ridiculous profits at the top feeding the extravagent lifestyle of so many people in this country. But clearly the increasingly military approach to economic problems you're proposing is evidence that something HAS to give, for real.

[Gymnfacymoota]

More Americans are killed by illegal aliens than by all of the criminals on the continent Antarctica!

[Andoror]

Originally Posted by Hank Mm hm.
Do you wish to debate the topic? If not, please leave or provide something that would justify smoke and mirroring my thread to what you guys want it to be about??? It's a good thread.

~Snip~ No one said illegal immigration was a wonderful thing that leads to fairy tales. Actually the number may surprise you. I had a boss that owned a multimillion dolor company he made from being penniless after him and his wife came here during Bay of the Pigs. I mean they actually stole a plane and U.S. navy fighters intercepted him with a Mig closing in and gave him and his wife political asylum. Now is that freaking cool are what (And we have the nerve to sit in our cubical bitching about minimum wage.)?
I also had a boss that was an Israeli tank commander political prisoner. These are the ones coming here for the American dream and becoming loyal patriot Americans. I mean these guys would kick someone’s ass if they said something bad about the United States or her citizens, not wave the flag from there homeland over ours and be fooled by democratic racism plants to secure some stupid political base at the expense of collapsing our infrastructure..

[Pharmadryg]

But we've done just that... not with a draft, but allowing illegals to sign up for the volunteer army.

But, it's not like the illegals are any more violent as a people group than the general U.S. population, so why the hysteria?

hysteria? speak for yourself... don't speak for me, I'm opinionated enough on my own, thank you.

a good portion of the illegals are probably good decent people, but HOW can we know furr shurr?

and whereas we certainly have a violent society, we at least know who everyone is in it... cuz they have ID cards... welll... hopefully anyway...

[Pharmadryg]

Ten times as many Americans die in car accidents every year as have died in Iraq. Maybe we should ban the sale of gasoline?

now if you wanted to ban tobacco because it kills a lot more people annually than either driving or Iraq, then I'd be for it...

[Pharmadryg]

More Americans are killed by illegal aliens than by all of the criminals on the continent Antarctica!

Antarctica has criminals? wow... I didn't know that...

[Lån-Penge]

I'm as conservative as the next guy, but I would just like to ask the hard-core, "build-a-wall" crowd who is going to hang and finish all the drywall in America if we close the border?

Inquiring minds want to know...

[Pharmadryg]

I'm as conservative as the next guy, but I would just like to ask the hard-core, "build-a-wall" crowd who is going to hang and finish all the drywall in America if we close the border?

Inquiring minds want to know...

there are plenty of americans that know how to hang drywall, paint, tile, and any of the other myriad of construction trades... so my answer would be... hire an american and see...

granted he may want more money than the illegal alien and you'll have to pay workman's comp, payroll taxes and the like, but if you want to hire mexicans, why don't you MOVE to mexico...

[Andoror]

More Americans killed by illegal immigrants than in Iraq.

So what? What's the connection?

Immigration enforcement discrepancies and it‘s consequences.
Anarchy and societal breakdown in California has resulted in chaos at it’s borders causing crime and increased loss of life in other states. Northern and southeastern borders are secured to military magnitude with armed personal authorized to use deadly force . In any case given there are about 300 million Americans in the US I'd consider that a far more "target-rich environment" than Iraq. If illegal immigrants want to kill Americans then they're well advised to focus their efforts in the US rathern than Iraq. Aside from the logistical difficulties of getting to Iraq the fact is that most Americans are, well, in America and not Iraq. Umm hm.

[Andoror]

Perhaps he thinks we should go to war with Mexico?

Hell, I’d just be happy if you’d just take out your crayons and color or something so the rest of us could debate the topic…
The threads not about me…

[JTS_tv]

What is the thread about, then? You NEVER actually respond to reasonable questions.

[neotheMit]

Funny, but I haven't seen too many Mexicans walking around with bombs strapped on them!!! Looking to slaughter Legals at every opportunity.

This is a total bogus article. Every Mexican I know is family orientated, normally Catholic, hard working & wouldn't harm anyone.

[Andoror]

Originally Posted by Hank ~Snip~ -2,158 murders are committed every year by illegal aliens in the U.S..

I’d like to discus the government endorsement of applied anarchy applications on Mexican boarders while using Chinese/Russian style deadly force on those who learn our language or become patriots and responsible citizens.

Actually Hank, I think the actual figure is much much higher.
There have been many murders that point to gangs formed by illegals but they can't prove it until they capture the suspects.
Some cases that I am talking about is from the gang M13. Yea I saw that while googling (Well actually google tends to hide this stuff, I used Ask…).

My intent on the thread wasn’t so much to be specifically reporting of (Cool, I’m channel surfing and the shopping channel is modeling bathing suits!!!) crime itself caused by illegal immigration though, I was hoping my commentary on enforcement discrepancies might shine some light between those who tend to become responsible hard working citizen kept out and those who cater to drug traffic, financial slavery for border smuggling ect. allowed in to the point to where border agents face prison terms and the drug smugglers stay at the Hilton to testify against them..
I mean Fuck.

[Gedominew]

Hasn't that been done before?

Yes and we pretty much kicked the ever loving tacos out of em....

[Gedominew]

Talk of a draft is proposterous, but we already do have over 20,000 illegal Mexicans serving in our armed forces.

They are not citizens of the U.S. but by joining the army, their citizenship process is sped up dramatically. So in a way, many illegals are willing to die for a country that isn't even theirs.

We are completely exploiting illegals... it's not the other way around. But we need to come up with an immigration policy that doesn't contradict itself. We can't bash illegals, while at the same time employ them in underpaid jobs or use them to fight our wars.

Our main concern needs to be about homeland security, not about racism. There's no question that we have to at least keep track of who is coming into our country and allow only a certain amount of people in.

The people that join our military and are later granted citizenship are not illegals. This is a legal method of acquiring citizenship setup via the rule of law.