[Fainnamoony]

Breaking news that the Major Liberal Media "mentioned", that N.Korea may be ready to give up their Nuclear ambitions!!

This has to be DEVASTATING to the bitch from NY and her Commie husband who built N.Korea up to destroy close Allies of America!!!

Mr Bush will possibly go down as the best ever, as soon as the new Iraq strategy pays off, and IT WILL!!

Now we need to keep all the Socialist-Progressive fucking Liberal traitors out of the picture and America will once again look GOOD!!!!!!

Got any details or links?

From what I've heard from the "Liberal Media" is that it (edit: the deal with N. Korea) is essentially the same thing Clinton had in place at the end of his term (yes that bitch's husband) which was ignored by Bush when he took office, at least until now.

[crestosssa]

The whole "liberal media" thing is bullshit, too.

[Thifiadardivy]

Link, please. Otherwise this is just another pathetic excuse to gripe about the Clintons (not that a link here would make it un-pathetic).

[Gedominew]

Breaking news that the Major Liberal Media "mentioned", that N.Korea may be ready to give up their Nuclear ambitions!!

This has to be DEVASTATING to the bitch from NY and her Commie husband who built N.Korea up to destroy close Allies of America!!!

Mr Bush will possibly go down as the best ever, as soon as the new Iraq strategy pays off, and IT WILL!!

Now we need to keep all the Socialist-Progressive fucking Liberal traitors out of the picture and America will once again look GOOD!!!!!!

Ah to all you conservative neocon morons who simply can't make a post without using the word bitch when refering to one particular person. (hopefully that will get me out of the censor problem since no one in particular was mentioned) Read the fine print. It turns out this is not much more than was negotiated by that "bitches " husband. SO we have had 6 years of confrontation only to go back to what we already had in 1994 and it didn't work then either. Oh and this isn't my analysis. THis is the analysis of most of you m-r-ns favorite Ambassador (Bolton).

[crestosssa]

Since I.J. is just trolling, do you think it's ok to be off-topic in this thread? I'd like to know what Benjamin thinks about the post-Katrina rebuilding project.

Well, it's okay.

Post Katrina? I'm sad to admit that I have not studied the situation as closely as I should have, but there are some things are are clear to me, as I live near the area.

First, New Orleans will never be what it once was. The only thing that kept the city from being the Detroit of the south was the culture. That's pretty much gone, or at least pushed back irrevocably from pre-Katrina levels. I don't see it coming back.

Second, I think that the best hope of New Orleans might be the bulldozing of housing projects and the development of private land. I don't think that having thousands upon thousands of people living in a bowl without proper means of transportation is healthy. Simply put, ghetto culture needs to be de-emphasized. In these terms, I hope and pray New Orleans will not be as it once was.

~Ben

[Fainnamoony]

Ah to all you conservative neocon morons who simply can't make a post without using the word bitch when refering to one particular person. (hopefully that will get me out of the censor problem since no one in particular was mentioned) Read the fine print. It turns out this is not much more than was negotiated by that "bitches " husband. SO we have had 6 years of confrontation only to go back to what we already had in 1994 and it didn't work then either. Oh and this isn't my analysis. THis is the analysis of most of you m-r-ns favorite Ambassador (Bolton).

Thanks Gort, I forgot to mention that the Liberal Media source was an interview of Bolton. I laughed when I saw the OP after watching that.

[RooldpalApata]

Well, it's okay.

Post Katrina? I'm sad to admit that I have not studied the situation as closely as I should have, but there are some things are are clear to me, as I live near the area.

First, New Orleans will never be what it once was. The only thing that kept the city from being the Detroit of the south was the culture. That's pretty much gone, or at least pushed back irrevocably from pre-Katrina levels. I don't see it coming back.

Second, I think that the best hope of New Orleans might be the bulldozing of housing projects and the development of private land. I don't think that having thousands upon thousands of people living in a bowl without proper means of transportation is healthy. Simply put, ghetto culture needs to be de-emphasized. In these terms, I hope and pray New Orleans will not be as it once was.

~Ben

I don't know if that's possible. Ragin did say he wants it to be a "chocolate city".

[crestosssa]

I don't know if that's possible. Ragin did say he wants it to be a "chocolate city".

It's not so much a race thing as it is a culture and class issue.

[Gedominew]

Thanks Gort, I forgot to mention that the Liberal Media source was an interview of Bolton. I laughed when I saw the OP after watching that.

That will teach me to actually read the entire thread first. We posted almost the same thing. I just saw his BS and decided this guy needs to be taken down a peg or two. But in his defense he is more than likely from the bootheel of Missouri. There is old saying about that area. They can only have drivers ed two days a week, because they need the car for sex ed the rest of the time.

[lzwha]

As if NK will actually do anything meaningful. Seems like we get headlines like this several times per year.

[RooldpalApata]

It's not so much a race thing as it is a culture and class issue.

Well, it's just that that type of attitude is glorified by "chocolate". Certainly that ghetto attitude is finally being purged, but as long as BET is around...

[annouhMus]

Breaking news that the Major Liberal Media "mentioned", that N.Korea may be ready to give up their Nuclear ambitions!!

This has to be DEVASTATING to the bitch from NY and her Commie husband who built N.Korea up to destroy close Allies of America!!!

Mr Bush will possibly go down as the best ever, as soon as the new Iraq strategy pays off, and IT WILL!!

Now we need to keep all the Socialist-Progressive fucking Liberal traitors out of the picture and America will once again look GOOD!!!!!!

Just keep whistling in the dark, that way we will know where you are so we can send you a flashlight.

[24MurinivaMak]

Why can't we talk to Iran this way and get some kind of deal?

[accotMask17]

Why can't we talk to Iran this way and get some kind of deal?

Because George and Dick have already made up their minds about what they will do to Iran.

Andrew

[RilmAlime67]

Breaking news that the Major Liberal Media "mentioned", that N.Korea may be ready to give up their Nuclear ambitions!!

This has to be DEVASTATING to the bitch from NY and her Commie husband who built N.Korea up to destroy close Allies of America!!!

Mr Bush will possibly go down as the best ever, as soon as the new Iraq strategy pays off, and IT WILL!!

Now we need to keep all the Socialist-Progressive fucking Liberal traitors out of the picture and America will once again look GOOD!!!!!!

STOP! You made me laugh so hard I pissed myself.

The only thing GW will go down as the best ever of, is fucking up the entire world.

Bush didn't broker this latest deal with North Korea, it was done as part of the SIX PARTY TALKS with four other nations. Hardly something George Bush deserves credit for, after all Bush refused to talk with North Korea outside of the Six Party Talks.

And the irony is that this deal is something that Clinton sought congressional approval for during his administration. Just think, if the Republican't congress had just seen the wisdom of William Jefferson Clinton back in the day, North Korea might not have even had a nuclear weapons program today.

Oh but you probably don't understand irony.

Oh and an interesting twist on this story, GW's darling, former UN-envoy John Bolton wants Bush to reject the deal.

"I'm hoping that the president has not been fully briefed on it and he still has time to reject it," he said. I'm troubled by this quote from Bolton; he hopes the president hasn't been fully briefed on the deal, so he can reject it? That sounds ridiculous, what's Bolton afraid of, the president making an informed decision? That would be a first.

Oh and in what context do you mean "new Iraq strategy pays off"? Because if you're Halliburton the old Iraq strategy is paying pretty good, and when you look at the "new" Iraq strategy, it doesn't look much different than the old one.

[RilmAlime67]

Why can't we talk to Iran this way and get some kind of deal?

We can, but Cheney wants war with Iran, and what Cheney wants, George does.

[AAAESLLESO]

Breaking news that the Major Liberal Media "mentioned", that N.Korea may be ready to give up their Nuclear ambitions!!

This has to be DEVASTATING to the bitch from NY and her Commie husband who built N.Korea up to destroy close Allies of America!!!

Mr Bush will possibly go down as the best ever, as soon as the new Iraq strategy pays off, and IT WILL!!

Now we need to keep all the Socialist-Progressive fucking Liberal traitors out of the picture and America will once again look GOOD!!!!!!

Bill Clinton is not a communist.

[YpbWF5Yo]

Why can't we talk to Iran this way and get some kind of deal?

Because Iran doesn't have a nuclear bomb as North Korea does .. which is why Iran wants to get one.

North Korea has proven that you don't have to have 5,000 nuclear bombs .. all you need is one .. and you get diplomacy, while those who don't have one get attacked.

[YpbWF5Yo]

These right-wingers are scrapping the barrel for good news.

First, it wasn't Bush or Rice who brokered this deal, it was Bill Clinton .. and the Chinese .. and the Russians ... and the South Koreans .. and the Japanese .. and the Germans.

Secondly, Cowboy Bush has been forced to bend over and have the US talk directly with North Korea, which the rest of the world said he should do, and Bush said he would never do ..

The current talks began Thursday on a promising note after the United States and North Korea held an unusual meeting last month in Germany and signaled a willingness to compromise. YET, before the 1994 Clinton-brokered deal can be signed, the right-wingers are jumping on it as if Bush had his way with North Korea.

Incredible .. but I most certainly understand why the right is scrapping for crumbs .. off Bill Clinton's table.

This is just too dumb, too funny.

[lymnCymment]

American role in that is minimal...

It is Russia and China that give fuel to North Korea in exchange for denucleorisation of N.Korea.

America's part is... ahem... in unfreezing part of money that belong to N. Korea.

America's behavior once again is the behavior of a thief that return a part of stolen.

Once again you can see by your own eyes who works for the stabilization in the world and who just returns the part of what have been stolen.