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Old 12-02-2007, 07:27 PM   #1
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Default Iran rejects U.S. charges on arming Iraq
TEHRAN, Iran - Iran on Monday rejected U.S. accusations that the highest levels of Iranian leadership have armed Shiite militants in Iraq with armor-piercing roadside bombs. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said in a televised interview that his country was opposed to conflict and bloodshed in Iraq and that problems in Iraq should be solved with dialogue, not by force.

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Iran's hard-line president, who has berated the United States and refused to compromise on his nuclear program, is now softening his tone, saying Monday he wants dialogue rather than confrontation in
Iraq.

Tehran also denied it gave sophisticated weapons to militants to attack U.S. forces.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad insisted that turmoil in Iraq is bad for his country and dialogue — not force — was the solution to the region's conflicts.

"We shy away from any kind of conflict, any kind of bloodshed," Ahmadinejad told ABC's "Good Morning America." "As we have said repeatedly, we think that the world problems can be solved through dialogue, through the use of logic and a sense of friendship. There is no need for the use of force."

Known for his inflammatory anti-Western rhetoric, Ahmadinejad in recent weeks has taken a milder approach to diplomacy. The change in tone comes at a time when domestic criticism of the controversial leader has increased, with both reformers and fellow conservatives complaining that Ahmadinejad spends too much time criticizing the United States and
Israel, and not enough on internal issues such as Iran's struggling economy.

At the same time, the U.S. appears to be hardening its accusations against Iran, including claims that the highest levels of the Iranian leadership armed Shiites in Iraq with sophisticated armor-piercing roadside bombs that have killed more than 170 troops from the U.S.-led coalition.

Iran rejects U.S. charges on arming Iraq - Yahoo! News

I say lets reinstate the Draft and build up our military and invade IRAN!!!
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Old 12-02-2007, 07:32 PM   #2
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"We shy away from any kind of conflict, any kind of bloodshed," Ahmadinejad told ABC's "Good Morning America." "As we have said repeatedly, we think that the world problems can be solved through dialogue, through the use of logic and a sense of friendship. There is no need for the use of force." Too bad Bush never thought of it that way.
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Old 12-02-2007, 07:37 PM   #3
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"We shy away from any kind of conflict, any kind of bloodshed," Ahmadinejad told ABC's "Good Morning America." "As we have said repeatedly, we think that the world problems can be solved through dialogue, through the use of logic and a sense of friendship. There is no need for the use of force."
That lie is only superceded by his lie about the Holocaust never happening.

What a fucking liar and madman.
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Old 12-02-2007, 07:44 PM   #4
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CNN.com - Annan: 'Dismay' over*Iranian*comments on*Israel - Oct 27, 2005
Contrary to what he said about Israel being wiped off the map......we need to drop a bomb on Iran and make a parking lot out of that country...
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:01 PM   #5
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CNN.com - Annan: 'Dismay' over*Iranian*comments on*Israel - Oct 27, 2005
Contrary to what he said about Israel being wiped off the map......we need to drop a bomb on Iran and make a parking lot out of that country...
AMEN TO THAT!!!!
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:06 PM   #6
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Too bad Bush never thought of it that way.
Too bad it's not true - Iran has a history of aggression against other nations in the Gulf.

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Old 12-02-2007, 08:08 PM   #7
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Too bad it's not true - Iran has a history of aggression against other nations in the Gulf.

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I didn't say I believed him. I just wish that Bush thought of it that way. In the end, Bush is no better because he did opposite of that statement.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:19 PM   #8
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I say lets reinstate the Draft and build up our military and invade IRAN!!!
Please, don't make me laugh. Look at the budget the Pentagon needs to watch by the sidelines in the civil war in Iraq. Just add a zero at the end of that number and you know what the invasion and occupation of a 70 million nation would cost. Peace not included.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:21 PM   #9
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Please, don't make me laugh. Look at the budget the Pentagon needs to watch by the sidelines in the civil war in Iraq. Just add a zero at the end of that number and you know what the invasion and occupation of a 70 million nation would cost. Peace not included.
"Peace sells, but who's buying?" - Dave Mustaine, Megadeth
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:34 PM   #10
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I still don't think the loosers in the Pentagon, or "falcons" (like the "liberal" media calls them) have the balls to stage a war against Iran. They won't stop anything if they throw a few bombs, but would archieve that China will get the oil it needs in the long term. If they launch a ground invasion, they'll need to reinstate the draft and make americans accept that their sons and fathers are fighting to "win" a peace for decades. On a longterm, the budget of an occupation of Iran would break the financial backbone of the US army. Americans may be filthy rich, but that does not necessarily mean that their gouvernment can't go bancrupt.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:35 PM   #11
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Irans history of agression is well chronicled. The UN has passed umpteen resolutions asking them to comply with UN rules. What should the UN do if they dont? Ask again? At what point will you accept that physical interference is the only solution? Name me one recent conflict solved with diplomacy.

Now we have a litteraly smoking gun that Iran is arming Iraqi insurgents with weapons that have killed American soldiers. Thats a pretty clear act of war.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:36 PM   #12
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I still don't think the loosers in the Pentagon, or "falcons" (like the "liberal" media calls them) have the balls to stage a war against Iran. They won't stop anything if they throw a few bombs, but would archieve that China will get the oil it needs in the long term. If they launch a ground invasion, they'll need to reinstate the draft and make americans accept that their sons and fathers are fighting to "win" a peace for decades. On a longterm, the budget of an occupation of Iran would break the financial backbone of the US army. Americans may be filthy rich, but that does not necessarily mean that their gouvernment can't go bancrupt.
As they say... money doesn't buy you everything
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:38 PM   #13
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Funny position we're in because of the oil war.

We overturn a Sunni regime because they won't play ball with US, and install a Shi'ah one.

Then we kill the Sunnis, and the Shi'ia and Sunnis both kill US because we've invaided for oil.

Then we need to go into Iran because we need some more polit cover, so we threaten those who support those we've installed those in power.

Is Rove desperate, or what?
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:42 PM   #14
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I say lets reinstate the Draft and build up our military and invade IRAN!!! Why wait?

The US military is begging for recruits right now so YOU don't have to wait.

Sign up today.

Or were you just talking about OTHER people going to die for what YOU so fervently believe?

How about this .. call for a military draft .. so you can see how much America doesn't agree that attacking Iran makes any sense at all.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:44 PM   #15
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Irans history of agression is well chronicled. The UN has passed umpteen resolutions asking them to comply with UN rules. What should the UN do if they dont? Ask again? At what point will you accept that physical interference is the only solution? Name me one recent conflict solved with diplomacy.

Now we have a litteraly smoking gun that Iran is arming Iraqi insurgents with weapons that have killed American soldiers. Thats a pretty clear act of war.
Of course you are right. Clearly, that's an act of war. But it's also a clever maneuver from Iran, for a war against Iran is not an option. Not from a financial, not from a geopolitical and not from a militarical point of view. America's hands are bend, and the people of it's allied gouvernments not willing to join a massive military strike against Iran. When it comes to Germany, I even doubt that Frau Kanzler Merkel could convince the Bundestag to send recon aircraft into a war against Iran. Since a year ago, I am involved in political discussions on Iran with other citizens, and I can assure you I haven't met someone yet who was willing to support the slightest military action against Iran. The idea of having to go to war, thousands of miles away against a people they don't know and don't care about, makes germans furious. And I somehow have the impression that more and more americans get that attitude, too.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:46 PM   #16
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Irans history of agression is well chronicled. The UN has passed umpteen resolutions asking them to comply with UN rules. What should the UN do if they dont? Ask again? At what point will you accept that physical interference is the only solution? Name me one recent conflict solved with diplomacy.

Now we have a litteraly smoking gun that Iran is arming Iraqi insurgents with weapons that have killed American soldiers. Thats a pretty clear act of war.
Maybe the UN should do just what they do to Isreal who in violation of more UN Resolutions than Iran BY FAR. If we should mass-murder Iranians because of UN Resolutions, then surely who'd agree that the UN should be mass-murdering Isrealis.

About that "smoking gun" .. would that be like the "smoking gun" of Saddam's WMD? .. Of course it is and I'd be willing to bet that you were gung-ho about that "smoking gun" .. with no bullets, as well.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:48 PM   #17
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Of course you are right. Clearly, that's an act of war. But it's also a clever maneuver from Iran, for a war against Iran is not an option. Not from a financial, not from a geopolitical and not from a militarical point of view. America's hands are bend, and the people of it's allied gouvernments not willing to join a massive military strike against Iran. When it comes to Germany, I even doubt that Frau Kanzler Merkel could convince the Bundestag to send recon aircraft into a war against Iran. Since a year ago, I am involved in political discussions on Iran with other citizens, and I can assure you I haven't met someone yet who was willing to support the slightest military action against Iran. The idea of having to go to war, thousands of miles away against a people they don't know and don't care about, makes germans furious. And I somehow have the impression that more and more americans get that attitude, too.
Weve been dealing with Iran diplomatically for 30 years now. Where has it gotten us? As you said, the US has no wish to go to war. Its simply inevitable as no one else will do anything about it. Somehow the US gets crticism for the rest of the worlds agression and failure. I suppose thats the price we pay for being the leader of the world.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:49 PM   #18
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I still don't think the loosers in the Pentagon, or "falcons" (like the "liberal" media calls them) have the balls to stage a war against Iran. They won't stop anything if they throw a few bombs, but would archieve that China will get the oil it needs in the long term. If they launch a ground invasion, they'll need to reinstate the draft and make americans accept that their sons and fathers are fighting to "win" a peace for decades. On a longterm, the budget of an occupation of Iran would break the financial backbone of the US army. Americans may be filthy rich, but that does not necessarily mean that their gouvernment can't go bancrupt.
Well I think that we all agree that the middle east is a mess.......to financially support a war in Iraq and Iran would not be inpossible it would be draining on Americans...we could always try to collect on the External Debt that other countries owe us...only about 10.4 trillion dollars.....or they could just send us some back up instead.....
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:50 PM   #19
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Who knows? No one ever THINKS anymore. I don't think our own leaders are even aware that Iran could possibly want war with us because they, like everyone else in the Middle East, want to weaken us. They clearly like us there, so I think we should get are asses out of there and call it a day. Iran is obviously dicking with us in SOME way here. More like a passive-aggressive approach.

We are like mice just taking the cheese every time and when the trap closes on us, we are the ones who pay EVERY TIME. We have to stop taking the bait for chrissake.

No more lives sacraficed is the greatest victory of all.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:51 PM   #20
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Maybe the UN should do just what they do to Isreal who in violation of more UN Resolutions than Iran BY FAR. If we should mass-murder Iranians because of UN Resolutions, then surely who'd agree that the UN should be mass-murdering Isrealis.

About that "smoking gun" .. would that be like the "smoking gun" of Saddam's WMD? .. Of course it is and I'd be willing to bet that you were gung-ho about that "smoking gun" .. with no bullets, as well.
We arnt talking about Israel, but yes, I think the UN should enforce its reoslutions on Israel as well. Although, were I Israel, Id get out of the UN. Same thing with the US.

As for the smoking gun, Im refering to the weapons parts they showed on TV, which theyve traced back to Iran manufacturing. We did not have anythign like that on Sadaam.
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