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Old 02-16-2007, 11:54 PM   #1
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Looks like Pelosi who campaigned on cleaning out the swamp, granted William Jefferson, the very person Pelosi removed from the Ways and Means committee to show how serious Democrats were about corruption not to mention the person who is under an FBI investigation, to the Homeland Security Committee ..

From CQ Today: Embattled Louisiana Rep. Jefferson Gets Homeland Security Seat

Eight months after stripping Rep. William J. Jefferson of his seat on the Ways and Means Committee, Speaker Nancy Pelosi plans to award the lawmaker with a spot on the Homeland Security panel.

Source and the hits just keep on coming .. I sure hope an indictment comes into play cause this will shine the spotlight of hyprocrisy on Democrats for the 2008 elections.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:56 PM   #2
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I agree. I just wish the democrats would live up to what they promise.
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Old 02-17-2007, 12:00 AM   #3
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YEAH!

This is about GOOD OLE' BOY ETHICS! (She failed ot mention just what Ethics mean to her when she promised to "restore ethics."

Now we know what her version is.

First, it was to try to make Jack But-I-didn't-take-the-money-at-that-time Murtha the second in command, and then it was to take William- I-DID-Take-The-Money Jefferson and put him in charge of the "protection of America."

She might as well walk around with a sign hung around her neck that says:

America FOR SALE! PLACE BIDS HERE~!

What a disgusting bitch.
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Old 02-17-2007, 12:04 AM   #4
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Looks like Pelosi who campaigned on cleaning out the swamp, granted William Jefferson, the very person Pelosi removed from the Ways and Means committee to show how serious Democrats were about corruption not to mention the person who is under an FBI investigation, to the Homeland Security Committee ..



and the hits just keep on coming .. I sure hope an indictment comes into play cause this will shine the spotlight of hyprocrisy on Democrats for the 2008 elections.
What a stupid move. There was nobody else available to take this seat? Makes no sense and a very bad move on her part.
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Old 02-17-2007, 12:22 AM   #5
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What a stupid move. There was nobody else available to take this seat? Makes no sense and a very bad move on her part.
I agree
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Old 02-17-2007, 12:49 AM   #6
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politicians are politicians

its all about scratching backs......
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Old 02-17-2007, 12:52 AM   #7
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politicians are politicians

its all about scratching backs......
That's a good point. I'm starting to wonder why people bother with being identified with a party. We should focus on what we want as citizens and make the politicians work for our votes rather than always picking a certain party as if either is really concerned with it's principles rather than a bunch of individuals that only care about their careers.
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Old 02-17-2007, 01:11 AM   #8
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What a stupid move. There was nobody else available to take this seat? Makes no sense and a very bad move on her part.
AFAIK she hasn't made that move.

So far it is just a rumor or an anonymous leak from an unnamed "top Democratic leadership aide" in an attempt to "feel the waters" so to speak.
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Old 02-17-2007, 02:43 AM   #9
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I agree. I just wish the democrats would live up to what they promise.
Did you really think they would? It seems that our two party system is in a state that reminds me of Orwell's Animal Farm. The Who describe it well - "Meet the new boss! Same as the old boss!" (Sorry for the back-to-back allusions).

It seems that, for the last 20 years or so, both parties have run on platforms of "we're not the people in power, fucking up the country - vote for us by default!" I'm wondering if this is all coming to a head and we're going to see a viable third party enter the mix soon. For a while, I thought that the Libertarians might be successful at attracting moderate Dems and Republicans who were disenfranchised with Bush's fiscal and foreign policy liberalism. But, with the Dems unexpectedly pulling a majority in both houses, I think that dream is going up in smoke. Fiscal conservatives in the GOP now have a new bogeyman to blame for the country's economic deficiencies (and probably rightly so), and I think the window for the Libertarians has closed (though whether they could have made any noise is debatable, given their absurd positions on certain issues).

{Sigh}

Unfortunately, I see no end to "business as usual in Washington"
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Old 02-17-2007, 04:35 AM   #10
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I agree. I just wish the democrats would live up to what they promise.
hmmmm, they did lie didn't they !!!!!!

I say impeach them.
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Old 02-17-2007, 04:55 AM   #11
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I don't have the answers, and I only have a military career and an old useless degree and a new, useful-but-technical degree...

But I think I would know enough that were I the Speaker of the House who had promised to clean "the swamp" and return "ethics"...well I believe I would know better than to back a man for second-seat who had been caught negotiating a bribe with whom he thought was the long-arm of an Arab Shiek...and was caught on tape by the FBI.

Hint: You don't need a conviction to waive in front of the American people when they can view the whole thing on YouTube.

And I think I would know better than to sit one of only 6 SC judges to ever be impeached (for negoatiating bribes, basically), and of whom I had VOTED to impeach...onto the HOMELAND SECURITY committee.

It is not rocket-science. Even little-old-me would know better.

She could have fronted just about ANYONE esle for those positions and the conservatives would have bitched, but probably had nothing to back it.

It was insanity.

Personally...I think that it was not/ is not what she WANTED to do, but I would bet that she HAD to....as in they had either solicited her for it by way of "Having something" on her or by way of monetary contribution...(just speculation, mind you)

Or in the case of Jefferson she so-feared the organization that backed him that she is feeling "they" would hurt her badly if she didn't.

None of those have ANYTHING to do with what is best for the country.

Either way, she is one of less than a handful of politicians that TRULY, no kidding, make me feel ill, filling me with such a burning anger that I honestly believe I might really hate the woman.

She has to be the worst thing to happen to America since Jimmy Carter.

Bleh.
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Old 02-17-2007, 06:20 AM   #12
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Good Luck cleaning up the swamp

Now what liberals?
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Old 02-17-2007, 06:28 AM   #13
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Did you really think they would? It seems that our two party system is in a state that reminds me of Orwell's Animal Farm. The Who describe it well - "Meet the new boss! Same as the old boss!" (Sorry for the back-to-back allusions).

It seems that, for the last 20 years or so, both parties have run on platforms of "we're not the people in power, fucking up the country - vote for us by default!" I'm wondering if this is all coming to a head and we're going to see a viable third party enter the mix soon. For a while, I thought that the Libertarians might be successful at attracting moderate Dems and Republicans who were disenfranchised with Bush's fiscal and foreign policy liberalism. But, with the Dems unexpectedly pulling a majority in both houses, I think that dream is going up in smoke. Fiscal conservatives in the GOP now have a new bogeyman to blame for the country's economic deficiencies (and probably rightly so), and I think the window for the Libertarians has closed (though whether they could have made any noise is debatable, given their absurd positions on certain issues).

{Sigh}

Unfortunately, I see no end to "business as usual in Washington"
Sadly, I agree with most of what you have said. The Republicans and Democrats have morphed into one gigantic party that loves pork. The Libertarians are good at one thing - losing elections. My strategy going forward will be to vote for divided gov't.
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:27 AM   #14
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Sounds more like she is filling the swamp with the corrupt and the contemptable.
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:47 AM   #15
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Hopefully both the dems and reps will lose in 2008. Somehow. I know it won't happen, though, since retards will continue believing that only two parties can exist in the US and that we must choose between authoritarian socialism and military aggression.
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Old 02-17-2007, 11:20 AM   #16
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This, seems somewhat a gaff more than anything, but she can't help it, she's a complete idiot.

However when she behaves like a bitch and gets catty, that's when it gets really infuriating like when she stabed Jane Harman in he back and refused to give her the chair position of the House intelligence committee.
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Old 02-17-2007, 11:36 AM   #17
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hmmmm, they did lie didn't they !!!!!!

I say impeach them.
You got it, and do the same in the Senate as we do not need Obstrutionists and Freedom Leeching bastards in Office!! This isn't about Iraq, this is about THEM, the fucking crooks that We seem to stupid to avoid at the Polls!

Wake Up America!
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Old 02-17-2007, 02:44 PM   #18
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well she certainly is making an ill advised appointment here.......and its not just her party as others have alluded, its the mechanism......Jefferson will vote her conscience……hes going to be grateful and do her bidding..they all do it…they load up committees seats with laborers that will push the party agenda…. it stinks…persons of quality are a rare breed on the hill…
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Old 02-17-2007, 02:51 PM   #19
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Sadly, I agree with most of what you have said. The Republicans and Democrats have morphed into one gigantic party that loves pork. The Libertarians are good at one thing - losing elections. My strategy going forward will be to vote for divided gov't.
That (divided government) is pretty much what sways my vote these days. To me, the ideal state of affairs (given our two-party system) is a Democrat POTUS and a Republican congress. I prefer to have Republicans proposing legislation, but with a Dem POTUS, anything too kooky will get vetoed. I also think that it's generally preferable for our system of checks and balances to be working full force - it seems that the less the government accomplishes, the better. Doesn't it warm your heart that 30% of your income going to accomplish nothing is better than 30% of your income going to whatever they might do, unchecked?
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Old 02-17-2007, 03:05 PM   #20
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Agreed with Slon. So long as idiots continue to vote for Republicrat authoritarianism as if it is the only choice to make, things will never change.
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