[merloermfgj]

What more annoys me is that Congress allows themselves to smoke in their offices whilst banning it for others from choosing to do so.

Exactly.

Typical.

[gkruCRi1]

Didn't Nancy Pelosi make a no smoking rule for them as well? It's only fair.

No, she specifically did not. She banned it from a lounge area, proclaiming this showed solidarily with smoking ban movements that originally got started in her home of San Francisco and then spread rapidly from there. She specifically left Congressional offices alone though, which made the whole affair offensive in hypocrisy in how they clearly exempt themselves from the laws they impose on others as well as to people's intelligence as to how token her 'ban' was.

[24MurinivaMak]

Well maybe this Ellison dude should make it fair once and for all and get smoking banned in the offices too. But then Tancredo will be his enemy forever.

Ugh.

I like non smoking buildings. Smoking stinks. It's OK to go outside to smoke.

[Seiblybiozy]

Then there must be a Clark Kent in Ellison's staff who can see through walls and called the super right when Trancredo was smoking...

Just to clarify myself with you and Samantha.

1.The cop notified Ellison that Trancredo had the right to smoke. This notification came prior to this incidence. So, yes it appears Ellison balled to the cops.

2.The staff received permission to call the cops on this incidence.

3.The walls of government offices are of sufficient thickness and insulation to reduce noise levels. Thus is the reason why I doubt that cigar smoke was seeping through, especially with three air cleaners running.

IMO, the staff or Ellison walked past Trancredo’s office while his door was opened and smelt the smoke….This of course is just my 2-cents.

Anyway, I agree with O’Sullivan Bere, this is nothing but double standards.

[gkruCRi1]

Well maybe this Ellison dude should make it fair once and for all and get smoking banned in the offices too. But then Tancredo will be his enemy forever.

Ugh.

I like non smoking buildings. Smoking stinks. It's OK to go outside to smoke.

C'mon, give the spin a break. Why spin that to point at Tancredo? Take a smoke break Sam--no need always for the blue pom-poms and full court anti-red press, eh?
Plus, that dog doesn't hunt because starchiness doesn't suit you and I've seen that photo of you partying with drinks and cigs with friends in the pub.

Well, on public property I can understand it. Private property, it shouldn't be your call or my call as I see it unless we own the property. It's a legal taxed product. You or I have the right to vote with our feet, though. A big problem with both the left and right in this country anymore, IMO, is too many people want to design the nation to their personal tastes and yet people wonder why the current political and social atmosphere is so salty as a result of that. Being too partisan helps create that atmosphere too.

[24MurinivaMak]

Didn't Tancredo seem pissed off? I think he did. I think he would be even angrier with Ellison if he started an anti-smoking campaign for the offices.

Or maybe it was just varus's anger at the Muslim that made it seem like a pretty angry situation.

[Seiblybiozy]

Didn't Tancredo seem pissed off? I think he did. I think he would be even angrier with Ellison if he started an anti-smoking campaign for the offices.

Or maybe it was just varus's anger at the Muslim that made it seem like a pretty angry situation.

I know that it would jack me up....I have to go outside now because of bullshit insurance requirements. They can't even have a freaking smoking room !!!!!

[LsrSRVxR]

What is this thread debating ?
1) Building safety & codes
2) Traditional congress values
3) Police intervention/formality
4) Misleading Headlines
5) Tobacco,cigars and other methods of smoke inhalation
6) Congress initiation methods,supplements and alternatives
7) Congress perks and privileges
8) Nothing better to do

[Seiblybiozy]

What is this thread debating ?
1) Building safety & codes
2) Traditional congress values
3) Police intervention/formality
4) Misleading Headlines
5) Tobacco,cigars and other methods of smoke inhalation
6) Congress initiation methods,supplements and alternatives
7) Congress perks and privileges
8) Nothing better to do

1-7 with some 8 thrown in for fun...

[MzTT]

1-7 with some 8 thrown in for fun...

I'd say 8, with some 1-7 thrown in to appear legitimate

[24MurinivaMak]

Agreed. I think it was started just for some good old Muslim bashing.

[kranfid]

maybe Nancy Pelosi can solve this by assign Tancredo office in a place where his smoking won't bother anyone, like in a storage facility?

[kranfid]

Smoking has been banned in all executive branch buildings.
Section

I know that congress is exempt from executive orders and routinely exempts itself from all sorts of laws, but maybe this is a good issue for the new congress to tackle, should the congress have the same rules as every other federal employee, and almost every US citizen?

[Zpxbawtz]

I liked the fact that smoke was coming through the wall even though three air cleaners were being used.
That building should be condemned because it sure can't be meeting government building codes.

I was just in DC earlier this week and visited some of the House office-buildings. The House's offices certainly are aged & condemnation might not be a bad idea. . .

[Zpxbawtz]

maybe Nancy Pelosi can solve this by assign Tancredo office in a place where his smoking won't bother anyone, like in a storage facility?

Lots of Republicans had to move their offices after the last election. I went to offices I'd visited for years only to find the former occupant now moved to less opulent offices. A tradition in Congress is that the ruling party gets dibs on offices, and then ranking members.

Funny story though. Missouri's new Senator, Claire McCaskill, is in one of the newer Senate office buildings. She's up on the 8th floor. But, to get to her office, you basically enter an annex that looks like it's still under construction. Then, you go down a long corridor with empty offices & conference rooms. At the end of this corridor is an easel with a 3'x5' sign announcing that you have found Sen. McCaskill's office. You open the door to the right, and you're in a stairwell. Then, you open the door to the left, & you're in her office. But the staff are all seated at desks in an open office with a few suites off to the side. I know McCaskill is a brand-new Senator, but I thought her being in the majority party would be a help.

Unless, of course, she wants to be like Tancredo & smoke cigars in her office w/o her neighbors complaining. Because her only neighbor appears to be a stairwell!

[LsrSRVxR]

I'd say 8, with some 1-7 thrown in to appear legitimate

[LsrSRVxR]

She's up on the 8th floor. But, to get to her office, you basically enter an annex that looks like it's still under construction. Then, you go down a long corridor with empty offices & conference rooms. At the end of this corridor is an easel with a 3'x5' sign announcing that you have found Sen. McCaskill's office. You open the door to the right, and you're in a stairwell. Then, you open the door to the left, & you're in her office. But the staff are all seated at desks in an open office with a few suites off to the side.

Now I'm really confused

Tancredo was easy - just follow the smoke and smell.

[Andoror]

It seems our only MULSIM congressman doesn't have a problem destroying traditions of the congress but when it comes to a man smoking a cigar in the building next to his he feels that's worth calling the policy on.

Sounds like just another fruit loop the Dems out west have put in office.

Rep. Ellison calls the cops to snuff Tancredo’s cigar

Varus

SSTFW (So Stop The Fucking World.) The most important thing in his day… He smelled tobacco and took quick action. Reminds me of the nerd that told the dean we were smoking in the bathroom…

Smoking in the boys room -wo oh oh, now teacher don’t you fill me - up with your rules -cause everybody knows that smoking aint allowed in schoooool.

[rsdefwgxvcfdts]

Smoking has been banned in all executive branch buildings.
Section

I know that congress is exempt from executive orders and routinely exempts itself from all sorts of laws, but maybe this is a good issue for the new congress to tackle, should the congress have the same rules as every other federal employee, and almost every US citizen?

To the first part, The Capitol Building is part of the Legislative Branch.
To the second part, I agree that congress should have the same rules as every other fed and citizen. Hypocrisy is rampant. For instance, Rep. Jefferson (D-LA) saying that the search (which appears to be backed up by probable cause) that led to the discovery $90K in his freezer was not a just search for a member of the Legislative Branch. I suspect that search would have been just for us simple US citizens, though.

[VioletttaJosetta]

It seems our only MULSIM congressman doesn't have a problem destroying traditions of the congress but when it comes to a man smoking a cigar in the building next to his he feels that's worth calling the policy on.

Hmm, last I checked public health is more important than stupid little traditions.