[Andoror]

Steveox is right. They began airbrushing historic photos in the mid 1990’s (School and library books had historic figures with cigarettes and pipes airbrushed to take out the tobacco products.).
It seems there using public opinion campaigns to normalize it.
Of course we all can agree with the socialists normalization techniques we saw with tobacco, but taking away Mc Donald’s freedom fries from the populace for the acts of a few is pretty obvious.

[JTS_tv]

We're such a funny people. We get all up in arms about how the government is perceived to be taking away our freedoms, yet when some asshole talking on his cell phone takes out a bus full of nuns, we're horrified.

[primaveraloler]

I can see, somewhat, where this type of legislation is coming from. Car collisions are a leading cause of death among many young people, and a lot of accidents are simply caused by driver negligence. I am opposed to nanny laws, but this does not seem to be one - I think eliminating as many distractions as possible on the road would seriously lower the amount of accidents occuring a year. I don't think a driver should have a choice to drive safely or not, whereas I think they should be able to wear a seatbelt if they felt like it without penalty.

I don't see how this could be enforced effectively, though. Perhaps this is just a hollow piece of legislation aimed at pleasing worried mothers.

[ahagotyou]

I have just copied my answer in other topic. I don't see anything wrong with it, because i don't speak english well.

Oh nice excuse Just play stupid.

Do you have smth to say on the theme?

I'd say that passengers are the most perilous distraction to drivers.

Perhaps the pigs should arrest drivers if they get pulled over and can't prove that they did not talk to the passenger.

[primaveraloler]

I'd say that passengers are the most perilous distraction to drivers.

Perhaps the pigs should arrest drivers if they get pulled over and can't prove that they did not talk to the passenger.

Good point. No matter all of the things that they hope to legislate out of one's car, I can't see how lawmakers will ever sell a bill that outlaws passengers. It would be a gross violation of privacy if all driving activity was monitored, too.

[annouhMus]

I can see, somewhat, where this type of legislation is coming from. Car collisions are a leading cause of death among many young people, and a lot of accidents are simply caused by driver negligence. I am opposed to nanny laws, but this does not seem to be one - I think eliminating as many distractions as possible on the road would seriously lower the amount of accidents occuring a year. I don't think a driver should have a choice to drive safely or not, whereas I think they should be able to wear a seatbelt if they felt like it without penalty.

I don't see how this could be enforced effectively, though. Perhaps this is just a hollow piece of legislation aimed at pleasing worried mothers.

I agree mostly but I don't think you said it all quite the way you intended.

[annouhMus]

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I'd say that passengers are the most perilous distraction to drivers.


QUOTE] A bit of logic in the midst of your usual pile of crap.

for that,KUDOs

[Qesomud]

Yes you read it right. Read this link and youll see i call it a communist state.

States seek to ban driving distractions - Yahoo! News

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Vermont lawmakers are considering a measure that would ban eating, drinking, smoking, reading, writing, personal grooming, playing an instrument, "interacting with pets or cargo," talking on a cell phone or using any other personal communication device while driving. The punishment: a fine of up to $600.

Maybe if the list of banned items didn't include eating, drinking, smoking, reading, interacting with pets or cargo, I'd go for it. And cells phones with head sets should be okay.

I don't want a cop giving me a $600 ticket for eating M&M's on my way to school. I don't want a cop to give me a ticket for drinking water in my car. I don't want a ticket for reading directions to the place I need to be going (mapquest printouts for example). And interacting with pets and cargo my ass. Too much control if you ask me.

[Gozmand]

When a politican makes a law we all have to do.The Pigs get involved.Just bush is like caesar he tell us what to do. Then ,, THE ROMAN GUARDS GET INVOLVED! America is like ROME back in 45 AD

[primaveraloler]

Maybe if the list of banned items didn't include eating, drinking, smoking, reading, interacting with pets or cargo, I'd go for it. And cells phones with head sets should be okay.

I don't want a cop giving me a $600 ticket for eating M&M's on my way to school. I don't want a cop to give me a ticket for drinking water in my car. I don't want a ticket for reading directions to the place I need to be going (mapquest printouts for example). And interacting with pets and cargo my ass. Too much control if you ask me.

Cell phones with head sets have been dismissed as just as distracting as a cell phone without one: [New study says headsets don't make cellphone-driving safer - Engadget. It isn't what exactly one is doing, it is the fact that one is multi-tasking at all while driving a huge hunk of metal at a high rate of speed. Some people are ready to trip over themselves voting for legislation to fight terrorists, and meanwhile car accidents are a leading cause of death and injury in this country, but some scoff at this legislation as too restrictive. Whether or not stuff like this gets passed, local law enforcement just doesn't have the resources to catch every distracted driver - which is most drivers.

[Zaebal]

Yeah. That makes us just like the Soviet Union.

NOT>

[freddyujnf]

why don't we teach drivers in driver's ed. to drive with cell phones and coffee and teach them to read and put on makeup....that would seem to be more logical....lol

[Gozmand]

Im Not Complaning about Cell Phones,,Im Complaning about you cant Eat or Drink when you own youre own car.Its Bad Enough they enforce these rules on Public Transportation.

[ZIDouglas]

eating food and drinking liquids is a huge hazard. its 2 hands on the wheel while driving for a reason. you want to eat - pull over. countless times i've seen people driving with just their thighs as they chomp down on a burger - real safe huh

[Assentesy]

Yes you read it right. Read this link and youll see i call it a communist state.

States seek to ban driving distractions - Yahoo! News


Here we go again.The goverment is telling us what to do what we bought and paid for.The Goverment is telling us what to wear already.Plus theyre telling us we must buy auto insurance in order to drive. The GOP is the true communist party.Thats why were giving democrats another chance! Maybe somebody should pass our military secrets to Vladimir Putin.Or perhaps why dont we do what the mexicans are doing?,No im not talking about sneaking illegaly into mexico but about sneaking illegaly into canadian border.In canada you get free health care ,Cleaner air and less regalations.Plus its not too hot in canada nether.

Wow, I'm getting pretty good at telling your threads apart, even before I open them. Steveox, your all over the place, it wouldn't hurt you to have a little consisistity. Weren't you the same one who wanted a communism state? Please pick a side and stick to it. not that I see how this has anything to do with Soviet Russia in the first place. O.o

[Gozmand]

But STOP TELLING PEOPLE WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY OWN SOMETHING!! You dont tell a homeowner what you can or cant bring into his own home do you? You dont tell a Store owner what he can or cant sell or what price to put it in his own store do you? Like we own cars.Why should we be forced to buy auto insurance? Why should we be forced to take our cars to emmisson testing and pay $20? And why should we be forced to wear seat belts or helmets of its our life? But No one tells the woman she cant have an abortion its the babys right to live? Whatever happend to THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE? Thats what Abortion people say Its a womans right to choose But the ACLU will never defend you on goverments laws on automobles cause the ACLU isnt for equal rights. Theyre for WOMEN And MINORITES!!

[ahagotyou]

eating food and drinking liquids is a huge hazard. its 2 hands on the wheel while driving for a reason. you want to eat - pull over. countless times i've seen people driving with just their thighs as they chomp down on a burger - real safe huh

I have a friend who reads the fucking morning newspaper while he is driving to a jobsite. He'll be driving and occasionally look over the paper to see what is happening on the road.

He also thinks he needs to keep looking at you instead of the road when he talks and he jabberjaws and only shuts up when he takes a toke off his joint because he's all geeked out on coffee and stupified on ganja.

We were going to a side job one Saturday morning and he was drinking his coffee, readfing his newspaper, talking to me, non-chalantly waving his joint around, ashing it out the window advertizing the fact that he is smoking pot to everyone on the road.

He was always slamming on the brakes because he doesn't notice that everyone on the road is stopping for a red light except for him until the last second. (Then he wonders why he wears out his brakes so damn fast).

He says he does it all the time. I say it's only a matter of time before he meets with tragedy.

Naturally I will not ever get into a vehicle with him at the controls again. His brothers are just as bad. I won't get into a truck with any of them at the wheel. It's just too stressful.

It's almost as stressful as your kid getting their first car.

[Gymnfacymoota]

I guess Vermont ran out of money and figured they need to make some more stupid laws to try and scrape some more cash from its inhabitants.

[ahagotyou]

I guess Vermont ran out of money and figured they need to make some more stupid laws to try and scrape some more cash from its inhabitants.

I'd say that's about the gist of it.

I mean I am all for safety on the roads, but the thing is, local governments tend to look at this type of thing as a means to gather revenue. A back channel form of taxation.

Laws like this will certainly be abused.

[Gozmand]

I'd say that's about the gist of it.

I mean I am all for safety on the roads, but the thing is, local governments tend to look at this type of thing as a means to gather revenue. A back channel form of taxation.

Laws like this will certainly be abused.

Now you wonder why i dont like COPS! And you wonder why i call them PIGS?
cause they dont really protect you.They rather enforce petty stuff so they stay safe collect their paychecks and see their wife and kids.Hell they wont even bother going into a dangerous neighborhood at night unless theyre called.