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Old 07-02-2007, 05:41 PM   #21
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The Bald Eagle is no longer an endangered species. And thus no longer qualifies to be on the list. Do not get me wrong, I still think that measures need to be made to protect the Bald Eagle but the endangered species list is designed and meant for only endangered species. Your hatred for bush is misplaced regarding this issue and you partisanship is showing.
The Bald Eagle is on the threatened species list and needs protection. You can call me names all you want, but that still leaves our national bird in jeopardy by the Bush administration.
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Old 07-02-2007, 05:44 PM   #22
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I strongly believe in protecting wildlife. The variety we have here in Florida is amazing.

I got to see my first wild manatees a couple weeks ago. There is a spring where the manatees from the St. John's river go to get warm in the winter, and there were quite a few manatees there. It was a sight to behold.

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Old 07-02-2007, 05:45 PM   #23
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The Bald Eagle is on the threatened species list and needs protection. You can call me names all you want, but that still leaves our national bird in jeopardy by the Bush administration.
Actually, I have to cross swords with you a bit on this one - the Bald Eagle was slated for de-listing in 1999. It is a court order which is pushing this toward completion, not the administration.

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Old 07-02-2007, 05:50 PM   #24
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Actually, I have to cross swords with you a bit on this one - the Bald Eagle was slated for de-listing in 1999. It is a court order which is pushing this toward completion, not the administration.

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It's the Bush administration proposal to protect them that is at issue here. Not a court order.
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Old 07-02-2007, 05:55 PM   #25
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Fair enough.

Hopefully, the stronger language already under consideration (as listed in the memo NPR has posted) will be adopted.

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Old 07-02-2007, 06:04 PM   #26
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The Bald Eagle is on the threatened species list and needs protection. You can call me names all you want, but that still leaves our national bird in jeopardy by the Bush administration.
I have not called you any names and I don't appreciate the accusation.

Please reread the thread, I do not have a problem with the Bald Eagle being protected. But if it is no longer endangered or threated then it does not qualify to be on either lists. If the Bald Eagle is removed from the lists then another means of protection is required. And I agree that verbiage needs to be added to the current proposal.

Edit: But this is hardly a issue that warrants your usual "Bush hates America" BS.
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Old 07-02-2007, 06:15 PM   #27
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The Bald Eagle is no longer an endangered species. And thus no longer qualifies to be on the list. Do not get me wrong, I still think that measures need to be made to protect the Bald Eagle but the endangered species list is designed and meant for only endangered species. Your hatred for bush is misplaced regarding this issue and you partisanship is showing.
I have not called you any names and I don't appreciate the accusation.
OK whatever you'd like to call this little insult and personal attack.....how about we discuss the issues instead of always personally insulting people? Wouldn't that be a novel idea?
Please reread the thread, I do not have a problem with the Bald Eagle being protected. But if it is no longer endangered or threated then it does not qualify to be on either lists. If the Bald Eagle is removed from the lists then another means of protection is required.
Even when you agree with me you find the need to put in a few digs?
What's up man?
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Old 07-02-2007, 06:23 PM   #28
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OK whatever you'd like to call this little insult and personal attack.....how about we discuss the issues instead of always personally insulting people? Wouldn't that be a novel idea? It is not a personal attack of any kind, it is a observation. If I am wrong then next time leave off the "Bush hates America" and say what you really mean which is "Bush needs to rework his proposal" or "Bush's proposal sucks".

edit: Wouldn't that be a novel Idea
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Old 07-02-2007, 06:31 PM   #29
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To help get this, ahem, back on track, here's one of the Audubon Society's permanent resident "goodwill ambassadors":



This bird was brought in for rehab after an injury, but could not be rehabilitated enough to return to the wild, so she is now a permanent resident of the center. She goes to schools and community events to educate people on the issues facing the bald eagle.

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Old 07-02-2007, 06:35 PM   #30
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Great pic Matt. I've made two paintings of the bald eagle, I love that bird.

It is not a personal attack of any kind, it is a observation. If I am wrong then next time leave off the "Bush hates America" and say what you really mean which is "Bush needs to rework his proposal" or "Bush's proposal sucks".

edit: Wouldn't that be a novel Idea
The questions, why do Democrats hate America? Why do Republicans hate America? Why do so and so hate America have been asked on this board lots of times, sometimes for real, sometimes for satire, sometimes for sarcasm.
Next time you see the question asked, you will understand the running joke. And I recommend you chill out on the attacks.
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Old 07-02-2007, 06:46 PM   #31
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I apologies for misunderstanding the joke. Might I suggest that next time you state it as such when you are making the comment, so that people like me can tell the difference.

Why does Sam hate America?
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:02 PM   #32
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The Bald Eagle is our National bird since 1782. The Bush administration is taking it off the threatened species list and removing protections which would allow developers to build right next to their nests.

We have been aware for a long time now that Bush holds our constitution in disdain with all the violations he has committed, but now, even the Bald Eagle? Why does Bush hate America?

NPR : Bald Eagle May Leave Endangered List
Oh my,,,, How would Stephen Colbert feel about his adopted eagle son? Will he Finaly turn his back on bush like i have? I used to support President Bush,,But,,Now i support the Democratic party Because of OIL PRICES,,TAX BREAKS FOR THE WEALTHY!! And VETO STEM CELL RESEARCH!!.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:22 PM   #33
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thats dicked up

im hitting the old emails
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:48 PM   #34
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I apologies for misunderstanding the joke. Might I suggest that next time you state it as such when you are making the comment, so that people like me can tell the difference.

Why does Sam hate America?
HAHA!

It works better though, when it's followed by something that seems like I hate America. Notice I said it with a story about Bush not caring about our national bird.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:51 PM   #35
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Oh my,,,, How would Stephen Colbert feel about his adopted eagle son? Will he Finaly turn his back on bush like i have? I used to support President Bush,,But,,Now i support the Democratic party Because of OIL PRICES,,TAX BREAKS FOR THE WEALTHY!! And VETO STEM CELL RESEARCH!!.
Colbert is using satire.

Satire
1. the use of ridicule or scorn, often in a humorous or witty way, to expose vices and follies. 2. a literary example of such ridicule or scorn.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:57 PM   #36
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To help get this, ahem, back on track, here's one of the Audubon Society's permanent resident "goodwill ambassadors":



This bird was brought in for rehab after an injury, but could not be rehabilitated enough to return to the wild, so she is now a permanent resident of the center. She goes to schools and community events to educate people on the issues facing the bald eagle.

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Every time I read "Audubon Society", I have to laugh. John Audubon killed thousands of birds for his paintings!
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:03 PM   #37
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Every time I read "Audubon Society", I have to laugh. John Audubon killed thousands of birds for his paintings!
Curious but true fact : John Audubon has nothing to do with founding of the Audubon society.

Although Audubon had no role in the organization that bears his name, there is a connection: George Bird Grinnell, one of the founders of the early Audubon Society in the late 1800s, was tutored by Lucy Audubon, John James’s widow. Knowing Audubon’s reputation, Grinnell chose his name as the inspiration for the organization’s earliest work to protect birds and their habitats. Today, the name Audubon remains synonymous with birds and bird conservation the world over.

http://www.audubon.org/nas/jja.html The society was formed by a group of ladies in the early 1900s who were dismayed that the fashion demand for the lacy feathers of a particular species of egret was causing the bird to be hunted to near-extinction. They formed a group to educate others about the dangers to the bird population, and thus was the Audubon Society born.

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Old 07-02-2007, 08:04 PM   #38
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Every time I read "Audubon Society", I have to laugh. John Audubon killed thousands of birds for his paintings!
I know, it's a weird hypocrisy isn't it?
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:12 PM   #39
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Emails will be sent today.
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Old 07-03-2007, 01:04 AM   #40
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I have not called you any names and I don't appreciate the accusation.
Ah now you see you can't use that as an excuse you see, whether you say anything or not Samantha has the right to cry rape and play the victim and its all George Bush's fault for taking her off the endangered species list.
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