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Old 01-30-2007, 04:11 AM   #1
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Default Kerry in Davos: US duplicitous, an "international pariah"
Remember, we almost elected this guy President, folks.

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John Kerry Slams His Own Country At Davos | KXNet.com North Dakota News

John Kerry Slams His Own Country At Davos

Jan 27 2007 7:52PM

Here’s John Kerry speaking while sitting just a few feet away from Mohammad Khatami, the former President of the Iranian terror state.

Kerry was asked about whether the U.S. government had failed to adequately engage Iran's government before the election of hard-liner Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in 2005.

Kerry said the Bush administration has failed in addressing a number of foreign policy issues.

"When we walk away from global warming, Kyoto, when we are irresponsibly slow in moving toward AIDS in Africa, when we don't advance and live up to our own rhetoric and standards, we set a terrible message of duplicity and hypocrisy," Kerry said.

"So we have a crisis of confidence in the Middle East - in the world, really. I've never seen our country as isolated, as much as a sort of international pariah for a number of reasons as it is today."

Kerry criticized what he called the "unfortunate habit" of Americans to see the world "exclusively through an American lens."

The Bush administration walked away from Kyoto? Methinks the Senator is revising history:

On July 25, 1997, before the Kyoto Protocol was finalized (although it had been fully negotiated, and a penultimate draft was finished), the U.S. Senate unanimously passed by a 95-0 vote the Byrd-Hagel Resolution (S. Res. 98), which stated the sense of the Senate was that the United States should not be a signatory to any protocol that did not include binding targets and timetables for developing as well as industrialized nations or “would result in serious harm to the economy of the United States”. On November 12, 1998, Vice President Al Gore symbolically signed the protocol. Both Gore and Senator Joseph Lieberman indicated that the protocol would not be acted upon in the Senate until there was participation by the developing nations. The Clinton Administration never submitted the protocol to the Senate for ratification. . . .

The current President, George W. Bush, has indicated that he does not intend to submit the treaty for ratification, not because he does not support the Kyoto principles, but because of the exemption granted to China (the world’s second largest emitter of carbon dioxide). Bush also opposes the treaty because of the strain he believes the treaty would put on the economy; he emphasizes the uncertainties which he asserts are present in the climate change issue.

It was a unanimous Senate (with five abstainers) as well as the Clinton administration who walked away from Kyoto. The current administration walked away from Kyoto as well, but for the same reasons as the Clinton administration. Kerry himself, in fact, voted for the Byrd-Hagel Resolution to keep us out of Kyoto. Yet here he is now, a decade later, dishonestly accusing the current administration of isolating this country from the world on an issue like Kyoto that Kerry himself opposed for the very same reasons the Bush administration opposes it.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:08 AM   #2
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Yeah, I'm glad I didn't vote for Kerry.

Apparently Jimmy Carter also likes saying bad things about America.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:18 AM   #3
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And no good patriotic American would ever say bad things about America, right?
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:23 AM   #4
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You're not supposed to criticize your own country in front of other world leaders.

It just makes you look bad.

It's like how you're not supposed to argue with your spouse in public.
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Old 01-30-2007, 06:16 AM   #5
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The current President, George W. Bush, has indicated that he does not intend to submit the treaty for ratification, not because he does not support the Kyoto principles, but because of the exemption granted to China (the world’s second largest emitter of carbon dioxide).
It's offtopic, but I only want to note here that if Kyoto granted China to emmit as much CO2 per citizen as the USA, China's economy could continue to grow with the same speed until 2060. By now, China as signalized several times that it understands that it has to make sacrifices on the climate change issue, sooner or later. I say let's make it sooner and make a second treaty, a treaty which is worth something.
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:37 AM   #6
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Remember, we almost elected this guy President, folks.

We get the government we deserve.
yeah, i'd much rather have a president who destroys america for power, profit, and foreign interests than one who criticizes its policies and the willful ignorance of its people.
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:13 PM   #7
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[QUOTE=JJB;904948]Yeah, I'm glad I didn't vote for Kerry.


[QUOTE] I don't like Kerry, but he is not always wrong (such in this case)
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:16 PM   #8
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You're not supposed to criticize your own country in front of other world leaders.

It just makes you look bad.

It's like how you're not supposed to argue with your spouse in public.
So if your spouse is going around stealing, lying and killing people, you should say nothing, just go along with it.

Doesn't that make you an accessory to the crime?
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:21 PM   #9
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On July 25, 1997, before the Kyoto Protocol was finalized (although it had been fully negotiated, and a penultimate draft was finished), the U.S. Senate unanimously passed by a 95-0 vote the Byrd-Hagel Resolution (S. Res. 98), which stated the sense of the Senate was that the United States should not be a signatory to any protocol that did not include binding targets and timetables for developing as well as industrialized nations or “would result in serious harm to the economy of the United States”. On November 12, 1998, Vice President Al Gore symbolically signed the protocol. Both Gore and Senator Joseph Lieberman indicated that the protocol would not be acted upon in the Senate until there was participation by the developing nations. The Clinton Administration never submitted the protocol to the Senate for ratification. . . .
I guess Senator Kerry was for Kyoto, before he voted against signing it....

What a tool.

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Old 01-30-2007, 04:41 PM   #10
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Kerry is a slimeball.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:12 PM   #11
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Remember, we almost elected this guy President, folks.
In hindsight, I would have voted for Kerry.

You've heard of that "Lesser of two Evils" expression, right?
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:14 PM   #12
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In hindsight, I would have voted for Kerry.

You've heard of that "Lesser of two Evils" expression, right?
flip flopper!

Just kidding. I voted for Kerry. He would have been one thousand times better than the moron we have now.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:23 PM   #13
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Hey, another anti-Kerry circle jerk! Somehow, these just aren't as stimulating as they used to be--say back in 2004! Yes, Kerry is a tool. But the fact that he's not running for the Presidency in 2008 makes him too inconsequential to warrant all this attention.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:26 PM   #14
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Hey, another anti-Kerry circle jerk! Somehow, these just aren't as stimulating as they used to be--say back in 2004! Yes, Kerry is a tool. But the fact that he's not running for the Presidency in 2008 makes him too inconsequential to warrant all this attention.
Well while we're at it let me go on the record as saying Al Gore was incredibly impersonable from 1992-2001. I've heard rumors that he's changed since then, but I wouldn't know since he fell off my radar a long time ago.
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Old 01-30-2007, 06:10 PM   #15
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Hey, another anti-Kerry circle jerk! Somehow, these just aren't as stimulating as they used to be--say back in 2004! Yes, Kerry is a tool. But the fact that he's not running for the Presidency in 2008 makes him too inconsequential to warrant all this attention.
True Son but aren't your ilk and your duplicitous friends in the media now floating that "he's inconsequential" balloon about Bush? And guess what...he's not running either.
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Old 01-30-2007, 06:37 PM   #16
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True Son but aren't your ilk and your duplicitous friends in the media now floating that "he's inconsequential" balloon about Bush? And guess what...he's not running either.
Try using logic in your arguments Dr. Who., or maybe at least some truth.

I doubt that guy has friends in the media and Bush is still the Pres. for 2 more years for God's sake. He's becoming a lame duck, but he's far from inconsequential. I don't see the even the far left media reporting that he is.
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:27 PM   #17
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Remember, we almost elected this guy President, folks.

We get the government we deserve.
Who cares. Kerry stopped being relevant a long time ago. He is a "has been."
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:59 PM   #18
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Try using logic in your arguments Dr. Who., or maybe at least some truth.

I doubt that guy has friends in the media and Bush is still the Pres. for 2 more years for God's sake. He's becoming a lame duck, but he's far from inconsequential. I don't see the even the far left media reporting that he is.
Okay Last. When I said "your friends in the media" I wasn't being literal. And as far as the inconsequential/irrelevant comment...did you see/hear/read any of the opposition and media op/ed responses to the SOTU address or do you live in a tent?

Try using brains in your arguments.
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Old 01-30-2007, 09:17 PM   #19
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Remember, we almost elected this guy President, folks.

We get the government we deserve.
Right. So why did we elect either of the two parties?
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Old 01-30-2007, 09:33 PM   #20
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Who cares. Kerry stopped being relevant a long time ago. He is a "has been."
....he is a 'never was'. Talk about a poor choice of words, he REALLY is an international pariah. screw him....I'd spit in his long ugly face if I had the chance. He's a 'blame america first' scumbag....
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