[jinnamys]

I think his speech was between average and fair. The Democrats have some room to work with on his energy and guest worker program, but the health tax break is dead on arrival. And I don't like the plan whatsoever. I was somewhat surprised at the Democrats response to IRaq, but it was expected.

[Seiblybiozy]

So what you're saying is that I never mentioned anything about Bush' speech in post 14. Thanks. Hey pro, look, free shipping!!!

Well, you could have said that you didn't see it.........You quoted in, so what's one to think ?

[ahagotyou]

I think he deserves a B its good but not good enough.

I give him an A because it was short.

Yet we can go forward with confidence -- because the State of our Union is strong, our cause in the world is right, and tonight that cause goes on. God bless.

He summed it up very well IMO.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0070123-2.html

[AdvertisingPo]

I thought it was shite.

Same old rhetoric.

This is what, the seventh year for "zomg the foreign oil!"

[annouhMus]

Tho I'm am sure this was expected from me. I didn't listen. he has absolutely nothing to say that i want to hear Again and again and again.

[blackjackblax]

But, it was still better than any Dems speech I've heard.....The Dems haven't said shit on what they'd do.......or....Is it do do ?

Yeah probably. Unfortunatley in politics words speak louder than actions in most cases.

[Gedominew]

To succeed last night he had to turn public opinion around on Iraq, and I don't think he did that. McCain drove a few nails into the coffin of his presidential ambitions by sleeping through the speech.

Actually McCain did nothing of the sort. He had already driven a lot of moderates away with his Iraq policy. I was a firm McCain supporter until he started making this a huge issue, and I suppose sooner or later it was bound to happen anyway. Now I have to find another candidate I can support. It sure as hell isn't going to be Clinton, or Obama, or Brownbeck.

Oh well back to the drawing board.

[Gedominew]

While for the first time Bush actually went into some detail about why he feels the way he does about Iraq, it was too little too late. The majority of Americans already distrust him, and his efforts last night aren't really going to make much of a difference in this area.

As for his domestic agenda the insurance sceme is DOA. It has been suggested before and Congress has always been unwilling to mess with the middles classes insurance programs. Personally I think that the people who have to get their own insurance should be able to take a tax deduction equal to what those of us that get company sponsored programs get, but it shouldn't be the company sponsored programs that pay for it. I will hold final judgement until I see the fine print on the plan.

No child left behind? He would actually have more credibility had he actually funded the program. Right now all I see is a federally unfunded mandate. I thought conservatives were against that.

Energy. Didn't hear much new here except for the fact that there may be some movement on fuel economy standards. Personally I think making it a standard by class of vehicle rather than one for all vehicles makes more sense anyway, as long as the requirements are meaningfull.

The one thing he did say that I was suprised at was refering to Global Climate Change. Now that is a long way from saying we are responsible for it, but taken in context with some of his other comments this is about as close as we will ever get him to admit that.

[Dfvgthyju]

The State of the Union Speech was very uninspiring. In grave times such as these (at least in our international relations and national security) we need a leader who will step up to the plate.

Bush dodged a ballsy approach to solving the Iraq War much like he dodged serving in the Vietnam War. This speech was his chance to convince the nation that he has it under control. That pretty much means that he's given it his "best shot" and come up with nothing. I expect nothing out of him except lost time for the remainder of his administration.

He has no long term plan or solution. It's all too vague. Bush has had 6 years to do all the things he's proposing now as if he's just taking office. His speechwriters and advisors have concocted what seem like big positive issues to try and distract us from his (and now our) failure in Iraq. He gave us what amounts to a campaign speech midway through is second term as president. He seems pretty disconnected from the American people and pretty disconnected from reality.

[kranfid]

I thought he handled the situation in New Orleans in typical Bush fashion.
He never mentioned it..................

[fabrizioitwloch]

I just wish he would learn to pronounce "nuclear". Can't his advisers stress the importance of gravitas and dignity to him?

He uses a recognized pronunciation of the word, though not the most dignified.

What one thinks about pronunciation depends largely on his background. If I hear someone say "mature" without the "ch" sound in the middle I'm likely to think him snooty, but others probably consider a clean "t" sound more civilized, dignified if you will.

[RilmAlime67]

Perhaps Rome's fate is not as far in the distance as we might think.

With China shooting down satellites, and developing cyber weapons, the less Americans know how f'd up our government is the harder we're going to fall.

[Gedominew]

He uses a recognized pronunciation of the word, though not the most dignified.

What one thinks about pronunciation depends largely on his background. If I hear someone say "mature" without the "ch" sound in the middle I'm likely to think him snooty, but others probably consider a clean "t" sound more civilized, dignified if you will.

Nice try but in 50 years and having traveled all over this country I have never heard anyone use the pronunciation nukular before for the word nuclear. It is a minor issue I agree but lets be honest. THis isn't a creek/crick or root beer/rut beer thing. This is a Bushism pure and simple.

[fabrizioitwloch]

Nice try but in 50 years and having traveled all over this country I have never heard anyone use the pronunciation nukular before for the word nuclear. It is a minor issue I agree but lets be honest. THis isn't a creek/crick or root beer/rut beer thing. This is a Bushism pure and simple.

Hmmm ... It seems the editors at Merriam-Webster have.

Definition of nuclear - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Check out the second pronunciation. You can even click to hear an audio recording of it.

It is a minor issue, but I am being honest. It's a recognized pronunciation, documented in the dictionary.

[homerdienru]

Why wasnt bush talking about expanding private education so we can give parents a choice public education and private education? Plus why he didnt talk about fighting crime plus tougher sentencing on sexual preditors? We need 150,000 more police officers in major cities.

[AdvertisingPo]

Why wasnt bush talking about expanding private education so we can give parents a choice public education and private education? Plus why he didnt talk about fighting crime plus tougher sentencing on sexual preditors? We need 150,000 more police officers in major cities.

Perhaps because private education is not the responsibility of the government?

[homerdienru]

Perhaps because private education is not the responsibility of the government?

Right!!!! Education shouldnt be the responsibility of the government. Why should i pay for schools when im single and i dont even have children? Education should be the parents responsibility not the government! Parents should be Billed for their children not society!

[AdvertisingPo]

Right!!!! Education shouldnt be the responsibility of the government. Why should i pay for schools when im single and i dont even have children? Education should be the parents responsibility not the government! Parents should be Billed for their children not society!

Did you go to school?

[homerdienru]

Did you go to school?

Yeah so?

[Xavier_Spinner_Wheels]

Steveox wrote:
Originally Posted by Donkey_Left
Did you go to school? Yeah so? I was confused too. It's hard to tell you went to school because of the quality of some of your posts.