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Old 01-22-2007, 04:52 PM   #21
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A corrupt Republican politician being sentenced is so common now a days that hardly anyone notices. In the next two years, you can bet you will see a lot more corrupt Republicans being sentenced, because there are a lot in the pipeline and because the Democrats now have the ability to investigate a whole lot of stinky deals that the GOP majority declined to investigate and I seriously doubt that those deals involved many Democrats.
Yeah, I think the Republicans kept their bribes and dirty business all to themselves in the last 6 years.
There will be at least a few more held accountable I hope. From the OP:

Among those still under scrutiny for their ties to Abramoff are former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas; former Sen. Conrad Burns, R-Mont.; Rep. John Doolittle, R-Calif.; Steven Griles, a former deputy secretary at the Interior Department, and Italia Federici, a political fundraiser for former Interior Secretary Gale Norton.
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Old 01-22-2007, 05:20 PM   #22
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A corrupt Republican politician being sentenced is so common now a days that hardly anyone notices. In the next two years, you can bet you will see a lot more corrupt Republicans being sentenced, because there are a lot in the pipeline and because the Democrats now have the ability to investigate a whole lot of stinky deals that the GOP majority declined to investigate and I seriously doubt that those deals involved many Democrats.
Right - because the Dems have been out of power. Only a moron bribes someone who cannot do anything.

Now that the Dems are running the show, the bribe money will be flowing to that side of the house. Keep an eye on William Jefferson's fridge.

The people who think corruption is the exclusive domain of one party or the other make me laugh.....

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Old 01-22-2007, 05:27 PM   #23
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Let's not forget that Ney was author of the 'Help America Vote Act' (aka; 'Let the E-Voter Corps Determine the Elections Act.'
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Old 01-22-2007, 05:28 PM   #24
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Yeah, I think the Republicans kept their bribes and dirty business all to themselves in the last 6 years.
There will be at least a few more held accountable I hope. From the OP:
Yes, you forgot to list the Democrats involved as well, Sam.
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Old 01-22-2007, 06:41 PM   #25
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Yes, you forgot to list the Democrats involved as well, Sam.
Why don't you go ahead and list them?

Oops! There aren't any Dems involved in the Abramoff scandal! Abramoff didn't work with Dems.

You must be confused with the Dems that helped the Indian tribes but had nothing to do with Abramoff.

Nope, as the article says, the only ones under scrutiny for dealing with this crook are:

Among those still under scrutiny for their ties to Abramoff are former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas; former Sen. Conrad Burns, R-Mont.; Rep. John Doolittle, R-Calif.; Steven Griles, a former deputy secretary at the Interior Department, and Italia Federici, a political fundraiser for former Interior Secretary Gale Norton.
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Old 01-23-2007, 03:18 AM   #26
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Only a moron bribes someone who cannot do anything.
Yes and generally liberals are classified as moron's...
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Old 01-23-2007, 03:59 AM   #27
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Ney's downfall was that he wanted to be percieved as a big-shot and live beyond his means even if it meant breaking the rules. That pride thing got him into trouble.
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Old 01-23-2007, 05:18 AM   #28
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Why don't you go ahead and list them?

Oops! There aren't any Dems involved in the Abramoff scandal! Abramoff didn't work with Dems.

You must be confused with the Dems that helped the Indian tribes but had nothing to do with Abramoff.

Nope, as the article says, the only ones under scrutiny for dealing with this crook are:
You people crack me up every time you open the door into your own noses like this!

Not a single Democrat, eh? How about Dingy Harry Reid? Plus 6 to 8 other Democrats Abramoff has chirped up testimony against. Learn the facts of these things, Sam, most Democrats are just as corrupt as William Jefferson Democrat, Louisiana.
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Old 01-23-2007, 05:41 AM   #29
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You people crack me up every time you open the door into your own noses like this!

Not a single Democrat, eh? How about Dingy Harry Reid? Plus 6 to 8 other Democrats Abramoff has chirped up testimony against. Learn the facts of these things, Sam, most Democrats are just as corrupt as William Jefferson Democrat, Louisiana.
Nope Harry Reid wasn't involved with Abramoff, just the Indian tribes because he was involved with the tribes in his committee. Who are the 6 to 8 other democrates? You don't have names do you? Because there aren't any. Face it todd, it's all republicans in the Abramoff scandal.
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Old 01-23-2007, 05:46 AM   #30
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Nope Harry Reid wasn't involved with Abramoff, just the Indian tribes because he was involved with the tribes in his committee. Who are the 6 to 8 other democrates? You don't have names do you? Because there aren't any. Face it todd, it's all republicans in the Abramoff scandal.
Here ya go!

The Blotter

The names of the others haven't been released, but it has been reported, and by the Liberal drive-by media, you think they can do no wrong, right?

I am curious, how do you Libs even think you can keep up with people as smart as I am, face it, you're out of your league.
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Old 01-23-2007, 05:51 AM   #31
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Here ya go!

The Blotter

The names of the others haven't been released, but it has been reported, and by the Liberal drive-by media, you think they can do no wrong, right?

I am curious, how do you Libs even think you can keep up with people as smart as I am, face it, you're out of your league.
The names haven't been released because they are not under investigation. They are just names that Abramoff has spouted.

Sources close to the federal investigation say Abramoff has offered testimony about his contacts with "six to eight seriously corrupt Democratic senators" and an ever larger number of Republican members of Congress. This is from your link. And there are no democrats under scrutiny because of Abramoff's testimony, only republicans. Sorry to burst your bubble smart guy.
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Old 01-23-2007, 01:37 PM   #32
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The names haven't been released because they are not under investigation. They are just names that Abramoff has spouted.
Careful Sam, you're getting a little shaky here. So I take it you're an investigator in this case and know for a fact that they aren't under investigation?

ABC News: Abramoff turning in 6 to 8 'seriously corrupt DEMOCRATIC senators' & Karl Rove | Redstate

This is from your link. And there are no democrats under scrutiny because of Abramoff's testimony, only republicans. Sorry to burst your bubble smart guy. You haven't burst anything. I've proven that there are Democrats in hot water as well, and what will you do when Dingy Harry goes down in flames? He may not over this, but he might over those illegal land dealings in NV. Maybe he and William Jefferson Democrat, Louisiana might be able to share a cell together, you think?
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Old 01-23-2007, 03:28 PM   #33
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Of course there are going to be a few Democrats in the parade of guilty pleas, but few and far between, thanks to Tom DeLay, who refused to do business with any lobbying firm that helped Democrats and insisted that the spoils be shared only within the GOP.

And the list is going to get longer, because the GOP is no longer in the position to block the investigations of things like the "rebuilding of Iraq".
So get ready for a steady stream of uncovered GOP corruption, with the occasional allegation against a Democrat popping up.
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Old 01-23-2007, 06:46 PM   #34
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Of course there are going to be a few Democrats in the parade of guilty pleas, but few and far between, thanks to Tom DeLay, who refused to do business with any lobbying firm that helped Democrats and insisted that the spoils be shared only within the GOP.

And the list is going to get longer, because the GOP is no longer in the position to block the investigations of things like the "rebuilding of Iraq".
So get ready for a steady stream of uncovered GOP corruption, with the occasional allegation against a Democrat popping up.
Typical rhetoric from someone being happily represented by "The Swimmer" and someone else who has yet to be honest about his service in Vietnam, that can't make up their minds on where they stand. I would say that it's unfortunate that Republicans get caught up in these things, however, compared to the corrupt Democrats, corrupt Republicans are a very small minority. We need more people like me running the country, we would all be better off!
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Old 01-25-2007, 03:36 PM   #35
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The names haven't been released because they are not under investigation. They are just names that Abramoff has spouted.



This is from your link. And there are no democrats under scrutiny because of Abramoff's testimony, only republicans. Sorry to burst your bubble smart guy.
Here are the names of the Democrats that were involved with Abramoff. They were well hidden, but I found them. Why is the Democrat party so corrupt I wonder?

Source is: Caucus of Corruption :: by Matt Margolis & Mark Noonan

Patty Murray (D-Wash) - $40,980
Charles B. Rangel (D-NY) - $32,000
Patrick J. Kennedy (D-RI) - $31,000
Harry Reid (D-Nev) - $30,500
Byron L. Dorgan (D-ND) - $28,000
Tom Daschle (D-SD) - $26,500
Brad R. Carson (D-Okla) - $18,300
Chris John (D-La) - $15,000
Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) - $14,500
John Breaux (D-La) - $13,750
Mary L. Landrieu (D-La) - $11,500
Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md) - $11,000
Dale E. Kildee (D-Mich) - $10,500
Barney Frank (D-Mass) - $9,000
Richard A. Gephardt (D-Mo) - $9,000
Max Baucus (D-Mont) - $9,000
Peter Deutsch (D-Fla) - $8,500
Dick Durbin (D-Ill) - $8,000
Frank Pallone, Jr (D-NJ) - $6,000
Nick Rahall (D-WVa) - $6,000
Jon S. Corzine (D-NJ) - $5,000
Fritz Hollings (D-SC) - $5,000
Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md) - $5,000
Daniel K. Inouye (D-Hawaii) - $5,000
Deborah Ann Stabenow (D-Mich) - $5,000
Xavier Becerra (D-Calif) - $4,523
Tim Johnson (D-SD) - $4,250
Kent Conrad (D-ND) - $4,000
Maria Cantwell (D-Wash) - $3,000
Kalyn Cherie Free (D-Okla) - $3,000
Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif) - $3,000
Richard M. Romero (D-NM) - $3,000
Ed Pastor (D-Ariz) - $3,000
John B. Larson (D-Conn) - $3,000
James L. Oberstar (D-Minn) - $3,000
Brad Sherman (D-Calif) - $3,000
Earl Pomeroy (D-ND) - $2,500
Max Cleland (D-Ga) - $2,500
Gene Taylor (D-Miss) - $2,250
Doug Dodd (D-Okla) - $2,000
Jay Inslee (D-Wash) - $2,000
John D. Dingell (D-Mich) - $2,000
Joe Baca (D-Calif) - $2,000
Carl Levin (D-Mich) - $2,000
C. L. "Butch" Otter (R-Idaho) - $2,000
Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark) - $2,000
Bennie G. Thompson (D-Miss) - $2,000
Robert Menendez (D-NJ) - $2,000
Robert T. Matsui (D-Calif) - $2,000
Rodney Alexander (D-La) - $2,000
Sander Levin (D-Mich) - $2,000
Ron Kind (D-Wis) - $2,000
Ronnie Shows (D-Miss) - $2,000
Rosa L. DeLauro (D-Conn) - $2,000
Willie Landry Mount (D-La) - $2,000
Tom Carper (D-Del) - $2,000
Thomas P. Keefe Jr. (D-Wash) - $2,000
Nita M. Lowey (D-NY) - $2,000
Maxine Waters (D-Calif) - $2,000
Ned Doucet (D-La) - $2,000
John Neely Kennedy (D-La) - $2,000
Lane Evans (D-Ill) - $2,000
Norm Dicks (D-Wash) - $1,500
Rick Weiland (D-SD) - $1,000
Ron Wyden (D-Ore) - $1,000
Tim Holden (D-Pa) - $1,000
William J. Jefferson (D-La) - $1,000
Patrick Leahy (D-Vt) - $1,000
Paul Wellstone (D-Minn) - $1,000
Pete Stark (D-Calif) - $1,000
Peter DeFazio (D-Ore) - $1,000
Mike Thompson (D-Calif) - $1,000
David Phelps (D-Ill) - $1,000
Derrick B. Watchman (D-Ariz) - $1,000
Charles S. Robb (D-Va) - $1,000
Bill Luther (D-Minn) - $1,000
Barbara Boxer (D-Calif) - $1,000
Brian David Schweitzer (D-Mont) - $1,000
Charles J. Melancon (D-La) - $1,000
Eliot L. Engel (D-NY) - $1,000
Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif) - $1,000
Gloria Tristani (D-NM) - $1,000
Grace Napolitano (D-Calif) - $1,000
Joe Lieberman (D-Conn) - $1,000
Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif) - $1,000
Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) - $1,000
Henry Cuellar (D-Texas) - $500
John Kerry (D-Mass) - $500
Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif) - $500
Shelley Berkley (D-Nev) - $500
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Old 01-25-2007, 04:56 PM   #36
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Of course there are going to be a few Democrats in the parade of guilty pleas, but few and far between, thanks to Tom DeLay, who refused to do business with any lobbying firm that helped Democrats and insisted that the spoils be shared only within the GOP.

And the list is going to get longer, because the GOP is no longer in the position to block the investigations of things like the "rebuilding of Iraq".
So get ready for a steady stream of uncovered GOP corruption, with the occasional allegation against a Democrat popping up.
It will be interesting to see whether the dems take a leaf out of delay's book and employ the same tactics with K street that he did. Denying your opponents access to all that cash must be a very attractive proposition. I'm also waiting to see whether dems at the state level will employ gerrymandering as blatantly as republicans have recently in order to make their congressional seats safer. Of course the mot egregious examples were in texas and I don't know if dems will ever be in a position of power there again no matter how the party fares in national elections.
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