[Eromereorybig]

I really want to roll my eyes at this. I don't because I was part of the crowd that critisized the government for not doing anything pre 9/11 when they had info about plane hijackers. I think we need to take all threats seriously even if some are false alarms.

How can we at this point? The threat level rises everytime things get too hot for the Bush admin, not every time there is an actual threat.

[blackjackblax]

How can we at this point? The threat level rises everytime things get too hot for the Bush admin, not every time there is an actual threat.

I totally understand what you're saying, but I don't think we can discount all threats even if they do have an interesting timing pattern. All it's going to take is one attack and then we'll be hammering the government as to why they didn't look into it or take it more seriously. I know the odds are against it, but we have to protect ourselves from the possibility.

[Jeffery]

Two events that come to mind from last August were the foiled terror attacks in the UK and those mysterious missing Egyptian students in the US. Sure, it was an election year, but that's about as far as you can stretch them being put into the public arena for political purposes.

Wait a minute, Lieberman had just lost the primaries one or two days earlier and it was all over the news. It wasn't simply 'during an election year', it was far more specific. So that wouldn't be a good example.

[PypeMaypetasy]

I totally understand what you're saying, but I don't think we can discount all threats even if they do have an interesting timing pattern. All it's going to take is one attack and then we'll be hammering the government as to why they didn't look into it or take it more seriously. I know the odds are against it, but we have to protect ourselves from the possibility.

its the old damn if you do damn if you dont

[blackjackblax]

its the old damn if you do damn if you dont

Exactly!

[Eromereorybig]

If we do get attacked, God forbid, we'll find out if they raised the alert level for a real threat or not. Until then, we'll never know if they are just playing us or not. So far it looks like they are.

[Jeffery]

its the old damn if you do damn if you dont

Lets use the English transatlantic terrorist plot for example. Here you have a group of terrorists who were being monitored extensively, lacked plane tickets, and they lacked passports, not only that the plan they were claimed they were going to do, mix TATP in the bathroom, the entire plane would know something is up and if an angry passenger hadn't broken down the door simply because the guy inside was taking too long then they would certainly do so after the fumes started coming out.

We've given extraordinary credit to a collection of jihadist wannabes with an exceptionally poor grasp of the mechanics of attacking a plane, whose only hope of success would have been a pure accident. They would have had to succeed in spite of their own ignorance and incompetence, and in spite of being under police surveillance for a year. Mass murder in the skies: was the plot feasible? | The Register

So please, explain, how would they have been damned if they didn't? So doesn't it strike us all as a bit odd that the timing of the arrest, came directly after Bush's friend losing the primary? It seems to me that this was a card that the administration realized they had, and could keep for sometime and whenever they wanted to, play it for political gain.

[OQmYckYz]

Darn I thought this would be something about the gas prices dropping. This is so irrelevant.

[Eromereorybig]

Darn I thought this would be something about the gas prices dropping. This is so irrelevant.

Yeah, terror alert levels aren't important. It doesn't matter if they are fake or real. Who cares?

/sarcasm.

[OQmYckYz]

Yeah, terror alert levels aren't important. It doesn't matter if they are fake or real. Who cares?

/sarcasm.

They're not important to libs, until it is not raised and then something happens. So they can cry "you didn't tell us!"

[JTS_tv]

So, who here has their plastic sheeting and duct tape?

Anyone?

>_>

[Eromereorybig]

They're not important to libs, until it is not raised and then something happens. So they can cry "you didn't tell us!"

You're the one who said the thread was irrelevant. Make up your mind man!

[ahagotyou]

ABC News: Details Emerge About Possible Terror Threat

This is such BS !!!! - for some reason, the timing of all these things happen right before anything major is supposed to happen, like elections, his state of the union speeches.. etc etc..

I hope this is not the case.. but the govt. cried wolf so many times, its hard to believe them anymore.

al Qaeda wants to attack us? No fucking shit Sherlock?

This is breaking news?

Also, to point to Oberlein's extended excursion into the world of post-hoc fallacy is simply idiotic. Intelligent people see that for what it is...Faulty logic. Nothing more, nothing less.

But of course there are many ignorant people that will drink his grape kool-aid like they are dying of thirst.

fucking pathetic.

[BoBoMasterDesign]

I swear, you guys are a trip.

Hey, nothing happened so why did they warn us.
Hey, why didn’t they warn us if they had Intel on an attack.
Hey, an alert was put out a week before president Bush bla bla blaa.
Cute…

[cokLoolioli]

Let me be the first to suggest that Bush also got them to start the new season of 24 just in time as well.

[panholio]

That's it. It was an Olbermann presentation.

Now, if anyone has facts that contradict what Olbermann wrote, I'd love to see them.

It was poor analysis is what it was. Olberman only showed the terror alerts that validated the point he was trying to make. Unless he's willing to show every single terror alert under the Bush for full analysis this is a b*llsh*t story.

It's amazing how ignorant Democrats seem to be of the scientific method.

Varus

[StitsVobsaith]

Keep in mind too - President Bush is the cause of global warming.

Good Democrats KNOW deep in their hearts that this is true.

Amusingly, what most Democrats do NOT know (thanks to how the Driveby Media highlights these numbers for Bush while burying them for these two Democrats) is that Hillary's approval number is only 3 points higher than Bush's and Obama's approval number is 4 points LOWER than Bush's.

Poll: Democrats Favor Clinton Over Obama, New York Senator Has 17-Point Edge Over Illinois Counterpart In Match-up Of '08 Frontrunners - CBS News

Yep, it's true. But you have to read deep within the linked article above to find those two numbers for Hillary and Obama. Meanwhile, the Driveby Media (a wholly-owned subsidiary of the DNC) HEADLINES the Bush approval number.

[blackjackblax]

Keep in mind too - President Bush is the cause of global warming.

Good Democrats KNOW deep in their hearts that this is true.

Amusingly, what most Democrats do NOT know (thanks to how the Driveby Media highlights these numbers for Bush while burying them for these two Democrats) is that Hillary's approval number is only 3 points higher than Bush's and Obama's approval number is 4 points LOWER than Bush's.

Poll: Democrats Favor Clinton Over Obama, New York Senator Has 17-Point Edge Over Illinois Counterpart In Match-up Of '08 Frontrunners - CBS News

Yep, it's true. But you have to read deep within the linked article above to find those two numbers for Hillary and Obama. Meanwhile, the Driveby Media (a wholly-owned subsidiary of the DNC) HEADLINES the Bush approval number.

Why is it that people cannot stay on topic and are always telling the other side what they think. How about you tell us what you think and others will tell you what they think. These random off topic opinions of what you generalize other people to think are worthless.

[StitsVobsaith]

I think President Bush's state of the union speech tonight will be a good one.

I think he will continue to give SPECIFICS of how he intends to fight the war on Muslim Terrorism.

I think the Democrats will continue to offer NO specifics of their own as to how THEY would fight the war on Muslim Terrorism. I think instead all the Democrats will do is continue to attack and criticise the President of the United States.

I think the Democrat Party is useless when it comes to national defense.


There, was that on-topic enough for you, scarywoody?

[JTS_tv]

Specifics: "Stay the course!"

Whatever the hell that means.