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**Imalaycle** · 08-01-2007, 11:54 PM

ASHINGTON (CNN) -- A U.S. aerial gunship has attacked suspected al Qaeda targets in southern Somalia, a senior Pentagon official said Monday.

The AC-130 flew its mission within the last 24 hours, the official told CNN. The operation was launched based on intelligence that al Qaeda operatives were in that location, but there was no immediate indication of how successful the strike had been.

Additionally, the official said, the aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower has moved within striking distance of Somalia, but its jets have not been put to use.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa...ike/index.html If the intel was good, then it's about time.

Iraq has taken too much away from the search for AlQueda, IMHO.

Matt

**Thigmaswams** · 08-02-2007, 01:12 AM

I doubt it will take a whole day before we start hearing about how evil the US is for killing innocent Somalis during the attack.

**PypeMaypetasy** · 08-02-2007, 01:16 AM

we have been needing to get payback there since 93

**Eromereorybig** · 08-02-2007, 01:21 AM

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Iraq has taken too much away from the search for AlQueda, IMHO.

Matt

Truer words have not been spoken.

**Imalaycle** · 08-02-2007, 01:23 AM

we have been needing to get payback there since 93

At least there is finally an AC-130 overhead. Imagine - just imagine - how different the Battle of Mogadishu would have been with a Spectre overhead.

How many lives - American and Somali - would have been saved?

Matt

**PypeMaypetasy** · 08-02-2007, 01:25 AM

At least there is finally an AC-130 overhead. Imagine - just imagine - how different the Battle of Mogadishu would have been with a Spectre overhead.

How many lives - American and Somali - would have been saved?

Matt

Your damn right............

not to turn political but that very incident makes me worry about a DEM president and policy making machine..............

had we the assets back then not only would less americans have died

but the somali deaths would of been halved..............

**Eromereorybig** · 08-02-2007, 01:29 AM

I wonder how we can afford to do this? Money-wise we don't even put the war in our budget so it's obviously all on credit. Troop-wise the Generals have said we don't have enough troops to sustain anymore in Iraq, so do we have enough to attack Somalia too?

How many wars can we start all at once?

Iraq was such a HUGE fuck up. If we weren't in Iraq fighting Iraqis instead of Al Qaeda in Africa and Afghanistan, we could have kicked the terrorist's asses by now. God I hate Bush for putting us in this shit place we are stuck in right now.

**Imalaycle** · 08-02-2007, 01:31 AM

Flying an AC-130 over there and giving AlQueda the good news is pretty cost efficient.

Be happy - if the intel was good, then this is kicking terrorist arse.

Matt

**PypeMaypetasy** · 08-02-2007, 01:33 AM

Flying an AC-130 over there and giving AlQueda the good news is pretty cost efficient.

Be happy - if the intel was good, then this is kicking terrorist arse.

Matt

with no boots on the ground............and no huge cost

crap this is the way clinton fought wars for 8 years and people are complaining now cause bush is doing it?

hypocracy is such a bummer

**Eromereorybig** · 08-02-2007, 01:38 AM

with no boots on the ground............and no huge cost

crap this is the way clinton fought wars for 8 years and people are complaining now cause bush is doing it?

hypocracy is such a bummer

Can you point out the complaining post? I must have missed it. Did it get deleted?

**ahagotyou** · 08-02-2007, 03:16 AM

I wonder how we can afford to do this? Money-wise we don't even put the war in our budget so it's obviously all on credit. Troop-wise the Generals have said we don't have enough troops to sustain anymore in Iraq, so do we have enough to attack Somalia too?

Yes, we do. They are from Africa.

And the troops we need in Iraq are Iraqis.

How many wars can we start all at once?

We didn't start the wars Samantha. They were fighting before we got there. Those with a very limited knowledge of the subject are unaware of that fact.

Iraq was such a HUGE fuck up. If we weren't in Iraq fighting Iraqis instead of Al Qaeda in Africa and Afghanistan, we could have kicked the terrorist's asses by now.

We kill more Al Qaeda terrorists in Iraq than anywhere. Iraq is the central front in the war on terror.

Our success in Iraq is unprecidented in modern military history. Say thank you Mr. Bush. You owe him a big fat kiss Samantha.

God I hate Bush for putting us in this shit place we are stuck in right now.

If you hate him so much why don't you ever legitimately criticize him?

**stunnyravytal** · 08-02-2007, 04:33 AM

The timing of this is perfect - just two days before our beloved President's address on the "new and improved" strategery on Iraq. Go Bush!

**neotheMit** · 08-02-2007, 04:46 AM

I wonder how we can afford to do this? Money-wise we don't even put the war in our budget so it's obviously all on credit. Troop-wise the Generals have said we don't have enough troops to sustain anymore in Iraq, so do we have enough to attack Somalia too?

How many wars can we start all at once?

Iraq was such a HUGE fuck up. If we weren't in Iraq fighting Iraqis instead of Al Qaeda in Africa and Afghanistan, we could have kicked the terrorist's asses by now. God I hate Bush for putting us in this shit place we are stuck in right now.

We've already kicked a lot of terrorist behinds. Obviously the attack in Somalia required intelligence. We don't need to send in ground troops to make a hit. Clinton sent in ground troops back in the 90's & we all saw what happened. That's when we were labeled by Bin Laden, the "paper tigers". It was a C-130, a special opps air craft that made the hit. Also C-130's are used at home to fight forest fires. I doubt it cost that much money to take out a few bad guys.

I believe these types of attacks should come from the air. It doesn't put our troops in harms way & it's extremely effective, with proper intelligence.

But, if one single civilian was hit while eating dinner with the bad guys, here comes the media & probably you Samantha.

**stunnyravytal** · 08-02-2007, 04:55 AM

Just more proof that a Bush response to terrorists is solely politically motivated. The Isamists have been in Somalia for months, but a Bush response is delayed until one day before his "big speech". Bush would be nothing without OBL.

**eropiereetuekm** · 08-02-2007, 05:12 AM

I doubt it will take a whole day before we start hearing about how evil the US is for killing innocent Somalis during the attack.

It’ll take them a while to get to that; they’re starting out with the Christians vs. Muslims ruse.

Somalia's government had struggled to survive since forming with backing from the United Nations two years ago, and was under attack by the Islamic militia when Ethiopia's military intervened on Dec. 24 and turned the tide.

But many in predominantly Muslim Somalia resent the presence of troops from neighboring Ethiopia, which has a large Christian population. The countries fought two brutal wars, the last in 1977.

On Sunday, gunmen attacked Ethiopian troops, witnesses said, sparking a firefight in the second straight day of violence in the capital, Mogadishu. U.S. Gunship Attacks al-Qaida in Somalia - AOL News

“Second straight day of violence”??? When was the last time there wasn’t violence in Mogadishu for two days straight?

**WaydayTew** · 08-02-2007, 05:42 AM

If the intel was good, then it's about time.

Iraq has taken too much away from the search for AlQueda, IMHO.

Matt

this was surely not about al qaeda or the war on terror or any other bullshit reason. the US has been trying to stabilize somalia with OUR warlord dictators for years and the ICU is currently fucking that up. why do we wish to stabilize somalia? well, we want their oil of course. apparently they have huge potential reserves with US oil compnies waiting to survey and drill. and it doesn't hurt that somalia is strategically located close to the red sea, the gulf of aden, etc. i can't stand it when an act of corporate imperialism is looked upon by educated people as doing something "good" or to ensure the safety of the world. can't you guys see through the shit screen?

**fabrizioitwloch** · 08-02-2007, 05:50 AM

this was surely not about al qaeda or the war on terror or any other bullshit reason. the US has been trying to stabilize somalia with OUR warlord dictators for years and the ICU is currently fucking that up. why do we wish to stabilize somalia? well, we want their oil of course. apparently they have huge potential reserves with US oil compnies waiting to survey and drill. and it doesn't hurt that somalia is strategically located close to the red sea, the gulf of aden, etc. i can't stand it when an act of corporate imperialism is looked upon by educated people as doing something "good" or to ensure the safety of the world. can't you guys see through the shit screen?

Well slap me on the naked ass, of course it's for oil......It's always about oil.

**PypeMaypetasy** · 09-01-2007, 12:24 PM

I wonder how we can afford to do this? Money-wise we don't even put the war in our budget so it's obviously all on credit. Troop-wise the Generals have said we don't have enough troops to sustain anymore in Iraq, so do we have enough to attack Somalia too?

How many wars can we start all at once?

Iraq was such a HUGE fuck up. If we weren't in Iraq fighting Iraqis instead of Al Qaeda in Africa and Afghanistan, we could have kicked the terrorist's asses by now. God I hate Bush for putting us in this shit place we are stuck in right now.

here is the complaining post............

this is the exact way your hero fought wars but now you bitch about surgical strikes that involve NO TROOPS

once again hypocricy sucks doesnt it sam?

**PypeMaypetasy** · 09-01-2007, 12:25 PM

But, if one single civilian was hit while eating dinner with the bad guys, here comes the media & probably you Samantha.

no words have ever been truer

great post

**fabrizioitwloch** · 09-01-2007, 12:37 PM

no words have ever been truer

great post

No doubt about it.

08-01-2007, 11:54 PM	#1
Imalaycle Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 392 Senior Member	US strikes suspected AlQueda targets in Somalia ASHINGTON (CNN) -- A U.S. aerial gunship has attacked suspected al Qaeda targets in southern Somalia, a senior Pentagon official said Monday. The AC-130 flew its mission within the last 24 hours, the official told CNN. The operation was launched based on intelligence that al Qaeda operatives were in that location, but there was no immediate indication of how successful the strike had been. Additionally, the official said, the aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower has moved within striking distance of Somalia, but its jets have not been put to use. http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa...ike/index.html If the intel was good, then it's about time. Iraq has taken too much away from the search for AlQueda, IMHO. Matt Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 01:12 AM	#2
Thigmaswams Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 481 Senior Member	I doubt it will take a whole day before we start hearing about how evil the US is for killing innocent Somalis during the attack. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 01:16 AM	#3
PypeMaypetasy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 636 Senior Member	we have been needing to get payback there since 93 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 01:21 AM	#4
Eromereorybig Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	... Iraq has taken too much away from the search for AlQueda, IMHO. Matt Truer words have not been spoken. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 01:23 AM	#5
Imalaycle Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 392 Senior Member	we have been needing to get payback there since 93 At least there is finally an AC-130 overhead. Imagine - just imagine - how different the Battle of Mogadishu would have been with a Spectre overhead. How many lives - American and Somali - would have been saved? Matt Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 01:25 AM	#6
PypeMaypetasy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 636 Senior Member	At least there is finally an AC-130 overhead. Imagine - just imagine - how different the Battle of Mogadishu would have been with a Spectre overhead. How many lives - American and Somali - would have been saved? Matt Your damn right............ not to turn political but that very incident makes me worry about a DEM president and policy making machine.............. had we the assets back then not only would less americans have died but the somali deaths would of been halved.............. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 01:29 AM	#7
Eromereorybig Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	I wonder how we can afford to do this? Money-wise we don't even put the war in our budget so it's obviously all on credit. Troop-wise the Generals have said we don't have enough troops to sustain anymore in Iraq, so do we have enough to attack Somalia too? How many wars can we start all at once? Iraq was such a HUGE fuck up. If we weren't in Iraq fighting Iraqis instead of Al Qaeda in Africa and Afghanistan, we could have kicked the terrorist's asses by now. God I hate Bush for putting us in this shit place we are stuck in right now. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 01:31 AM	#8
Imalaycle Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 392 Senior Member	Flying an AC-130 over there and giving AlQueda the good news is pretty cost efficient. Be happy - if the intel was good, then this is kicking terrorist arse. Matt Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 01:33 AM	#9
PypeMaypetasy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 636 Senior Member	Flying an AC-130 over there and giving AlQueda the good news is pretty cost efficient. Be happy - if the intel was good, then this is kicking terrorist arse. Matt with no boots on the ground............and no huge cost crap this is the way clinton fought wars for 8 years and people are complaining now cause bush is doing it? hypocracy is such a bummer Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 01:38 AM	#10
Eromereorybig Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	with no boots on the ground............and no huge cost crap this is the way clinton fought wars for 8 years and people are complaining now cause bush is doing it? hypocracy is such a bummer Can you point out the complaining post? I must have missed it. Did it get deleted? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 03:16 AM	#11
ahagotyou Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 571 Senior Member	I wonder how we can afford to do this? Money-wise we don't even put the war in our budget so it's obviously all on credit. Troop-wise the Generals have said we don't have enough troops to sustain anymore in Iraq, so do we have enough to attack Somalia too? Yes, we do. They are from Africa. And the troops we need in Iraq are Iraqis. How many wars can we start all at once? We didn't start the wars Samantha. They were fighting before we got there. Those with a very limited knowledge of the subject are unaware of that fact. Iraq was such a HUGE fuck up. If we weren't in Iraq fighting Iraqis instead of Al Qaeda in Africa and Afghanistan, we could have kicked the terrorist's asses by now. We kill more Al Qaeda terrorists in Iraq than anywhere. Iraq is the central front in the war on terror. Our success in Iraq is unprecidented in modern military history. Say thank you Mr. Bush. You owe him a big fat kiss Samantha. God I hate Bush for putting us in this shit place we are stuck in right now. If you hate him so much why don't you ever legitimately criticize him? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 04:33 AM	#12
stunnyravytal Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 592 Senior Member	The timing of this is perfect - just two days before our beloved President's address on the "new and improved" strategery on Iraq. Go Bush! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 04:46 AM	#13
neotheMit Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 500 Senior Member	I wonder how we can afford to do this? Money-wise we don't even put the war in our budget so it's obviously all on credit. Troop-wise the Generals have said we don't have enough troops to sustain anymore in Iraq, so do we have enough to attack Somalia too? How many wars can we start all at once? Iraq was such a HUGE fuck up. If we weren't in Iraq fighting Iraqis instead of Al Qaeda in Africa and Afghanistan, we could have kicked the terrorist's asses by now. God I hate Bush for putting us in this shit place we are stuck in right now. We've already kicked a lot of terrorist behinds. Obviously the attack in Somalia required intelligence. We don't need to send in ground troops to make a hit. Clinton sent in ground troops back in the 90's & we all saw what happened. That's when we were labeled by Bin Laden, the "paper tigers". It was a C-130, a special opps air craft that made the hit. Also C-130's are used at home to fight forest fires. I doubt it cost that much money to take out a few bad guys. I believe these types of attacks should come from the air. It doesn't put our troops in harms way & it's extremely effective, with proper intelligence. But, if one single civilian was hit while eating dinner with the bad guys, here comes the media & probably you Samantha. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 04:55 AM	#14
stunnyravytal Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 592 Senior Member	Just more proof that a Bush response to terrorists is solely politically motivated. The Isamists have been in Somalia for months, but a Bush response is delayed until one day before his "big speech". Bush would be nothing without OBL. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 05:12 AM	#15
eropiereetuekm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	I doubt it will take a whole day before we start hearing about how evil the US is for killing innocent Somalis during the attack. It’ll take them a while to get to that; they’re starting out with the Christians vs. Muslims ruse. Somalia's government had struggled to survive since forming with backing from the United Nations two years ago, and was under attack by the Islamic militia when Ethiopia's military intervened on Dec. 24 and turned the tide. But many in predominantly Muslim Somalia resent the presence of troops from neighboring Ethiopia, which has a large Christian population. The countries fought two brutal wars, the last in 1977. On Sunday, gunmen attacked Ethiopian troops, witnesses said, sparking a firefight in the second straight day of violence in the capital, Mogadishu. U.S. Gunship Attacks al-Qaida in Somalia - AOL News “Second straight day of violence”??? When was the last time there wasn’t violence in Mogadishu for two days straight? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 05:42 AM	#16
WaydayTew Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	If the intel was good, then it's about time. Iraq has taken too much away from the search for AlQueda, IMHO. Matt this was surely not about al qaeda or the war on terror or any other bullshit reason. the US has been trying to stabilize somalia with OUR warlord dictators for years and the ICU is currently fucking that up. why do we wish to stabilize somalia? well, we want their oil of course. apparently they have huge potential reserves with US oil compnies waiting to survey and drill. and it doesn't hurt that somalia is strategically located close to the red sea, the gulf of aden, etc. i can't stand it when an act of corporate imperialism is looked upon by educated people as doing something "good" or to ensure the safety of the world. can't you guys see through the shit screen? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-02-2007, 05:50 AM	#17
fabrizioitwloch Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	this was surely not about al qaeda or the war on terror or any other bullshit reason. the US has been trying to stabilize somalia with OUR warlord dictators for years and the ICU is currently fucking that up. why do we wish to stabilize somalia? well, we want their oil of course. apparently they have huge potential reserves with US oil compnies waiting to survey and drill. and it doesn't hurt that somalia is strategically located close to the red sea, the gulf of aden, etc. i can't stand it when an act of corporate imperialism is looked upon by educated people as doing something "good" or to ensure the safety of the world. can't you guys see through the shit screen? Well slap me on the naked ass, of course it's for oil......It's always about oil. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-01-2007, 12:24 PM	#18
PypeMaypetasy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 636 Senior Member	I wonder how we can afford to do this? Money-wise we don't even put the war in our budget so it's obviously all on credit. Troop-wise the Generals have said we don't have enough troops to sustain anymore in Iraq, so do we have enough to attack Somalia too? How many wars can we start all at once? Iraq was such a HUGE fuck up. If we weren't in Iraq fighting Iraqis instead of Al Qaeda in Africa and Afghanistan, we could have kicked the terrorist's asses by now. God I hate Bush for putting us in this shit place we are stuck in right now. here is the complaining post............ this is the exact way your hero fought wars but now you bitch about surgical strikes that involve NO TROOPS once again hypocricy sucks doesnt it sam? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-01-2007, 12:25 PM	#19
PypeMaypetasy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 636 Senior Member	But, if one single civilian was hit while eating dinner with the bad guys, here comes the media & probably you Samantha. no words have ever been truer great post Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-01-2007, 12:37 PM	#20
fabrizioitwloch Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	no words have ever been truer great post No doubt about it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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