[Vemnagelignc]

I don't see how this is any different than Chavez shutting down TV stations.

Why is it not ok for him, but it's just fine and dandy for Iraq?

SignOnSanDiego.com > In Iraq -- Iraq orders shutdown of Baghdad office of TV station accused of inciting hatred

And yes, I know, they may be inciting violence, but did the Venezuelan station not support a coup against Chavez?

[Eromereorybig]

They only have 3 hours of electricity anyway. Who needs TV?

Freedom and democracy = shut down TV.

Well done USA!

[ahagotyou]

I don't see how this is any different than Chavez shutting down TV stations.

How about the fact that the TV station wasn't shut down. Isn't that a major difference?

[Asianunta]

I guess freedom of speech isn't in their constitution. Unfortunate.

[Vemnagelignc]

How about the fact that the TV station wasn't shut down. Isn't that a major difference?

Oh, I'm sorry, my error.

Merely the one operating IN THAT COUNTRY was shut down.

[ahagotyou]

Oh, I'm sorry, my error.

Merely the one operating IN THAT COUNTRY was shut down.

Your source does not say that either. Did you even read the article????

Where does it say that the TV station was shut down?
Are we reading the same article?

What gave you the impression that they shut down the TV station?

Al-Sharqiya reported Monday night that its offices in Baghdad were raided and sealed by Iraqi authorities. But the station said those offices were vacated three months ago in response to attacks on staff.

According to your source, they raided an office that had been abandoned months ago.

Why do you consider this to be "breaking news in politics"?

[9V4i8xw1]

Typical - someone reports bad information and in come the bashers always ready to assume it must be true.

[BJEugene]

Anyone getting tired of a handful creating threads about [removed] and assume ANYONE other than their Stalinista buddies care??? The terrorist pricks are in trouble and they are not INSURGENTS, just a bunch of chickenshit sneak bombers who should always be shot on sight and if CNN gets in the way....oh well...ooooops!!

Say aren't you brave young men going with Donkey to the front to help the Islamic bastards??

[Xavier_Spinner_Wheels]

I noticed that Ironman Jack isn't in the military currently. I though he supports the war effort?

[ahagotyou]

Typical - someone reports bad information and in come the bashers always ready to assume it must be true.

My sentiments exactly.

[AnetTeilor]

I noticed that Ironman Jack isn't in the military currently. I though he supports the war effort?

He's gonna come back with "I already served in "Nam" you stallinista librul PUNK "

[Rapiddude]

My sentiments exactly.

Agreed. Remember when people bought the crap about WMDs? They also fall into the catagory.

[ahagotyou]

Agreed. Remember when people bought the crap about WMDs? They also fall into the catagory.

Can you present an argument to back up claim?



I suspect that you do not have the ability to present an argument to back up your assertion. I challenge you to prove my suspicions wrong.

[Eromereorybig]

Your source does not say that either. Did you even read the article????

Where does it say that the TV station was shut down?
Are we reading the same article?

What gave you the impression that they shut down the TV station?



According to your source, they raided an office that had been abandoned months ago.

Why do you consider this to be "breaking news in politics"?

Hmmm that's interesting. The first paragraph of the article says:

Typical - someone reports bad information and in come the bashers always ready to assume it must be true.

Sam....

Yes, isn't it crazy how people don't read the article and come to a thread to bash the other posters?

[ahagotyou]

Hmmm that's interesting. The first paragraph of the article says:



So how did an abandoned office have a newscaster wearing black mourning clothes just the other day for Saddam's hanging?

Weird.

Perhaps they left and found new offices elsewhere to avoid being attacked. Perhaps the offices were raided because criminals decided to move in. (criminals tend to take over abandoned buildings)

Who knows?

But obviously the TV station wasn't shut down.

Just the Media trying to make shit up and hoping that gullible people will buy it I would presuime.

Certainly not breaking news in politics

[Eromereorybig]

Perhaps they left and found new offices elsewhere to avoid being attacked. Perhaps the offices were raided because criminals decided to move in. (criminals tend to take over abandoned buildings)

Who knows?

But obviously the TV station wasn't shut down.

Just the Media trying to make shit up and hoping that gullible people will buy it I would presuime.

Certainly not breaking news in politics

The office that the newscaster dressed in mourning clothes worked in was shut down.

I don't usually debate with you because it is way too annoying to converse with people who refuse to read the article and discuss it. It's too hard to make sense out of posts that have nothing to do with the actual story, posts with made up crap!

This is the kind of control Iraq has over the information it's TV stations broadcast.
On Nov. 30, the Interior Ministry said it had formed a special unit to monitor news coverage and vowed to take legal action against journalists who failed to correct stories the ministry deemed to be incorrect. The ministry runs the Iraqi national police and a separate paramilitary force. Freedom and Democracy eh Dubya?

LOL!

[SypeKifef]

Personally I do not care about what is percieved as the "consititutional" thing to do. If it helps keep a lid on violence and chaos I am all for it. If that means we have to censur all Iraqi media, hell its not like they arn't used to that thing. If it helps us win, get the war over with, and bring the soldiers home why should I care if one of you thinks it isn't fair?

[masaredera]

The Iraqi government ordered the station shut down. The thing is, the station is a satellite channel and its offices and broadcasting center are in Dubai, not in Iraq. It is owned by an Iraqi who lives in London and used to be a media kingpin in the Batthist party under Saddam.

It is true that the Iraqi government ordered this station shut down. The order exists but the ability of the Iraqi government to shut down this broadcast is virtually non-existent. The Iraqi government cant even, well, be a government, let alone carry out an order like this. I doubt they will be able to block a sattelite signal from reaching the homes of Iraqis with satellite dishes.

I suppose America could launch air strikes against their offices in Dubai, or at least plant a bomb and turn the other way.

Back to the original point. If all they did was wear black to mourn Saddam i don't see how that can be considered inciting hatred, but in Venezuela if there is a TV station actively promoting a coup of a democratically elected government, i don't doubt that any western developed nation would do the same, seek to close it down. Hell, in america you cant even show a nipple..... i wonder what would happen if a media outlet started promoting a violent takeover of the government.... (not that i would be terribly opposed to the idea in the case of the Bush governmnent, since he is not really democratically elected in the first place).

Andrew

[Eromereorybig]

I doubt many Iraqis have satellite Andrew. The wealthy Iraqis have all fled the country. The rest have only a few hours of electricity per day, if that. Thousands live in tents in refuge camps with no electricity at all. The Iraqi government doesn't need to shut down a TV station, they just need to keep the electricity turned off as they have been for the past 3 1/2 years. This way the people don't ever have to hear the news. Just like North Korea!

[qQVXpYM6]

Personally I do not care about what is percieved as the "consititutional" thing to do. If it helps keep a lid on violence and chaos I am all for it. If that means we have to censur all Iraqi media, hell its not like they arn't used to that thing. If it helps us win, get the war over with, and bring the soldiers home why should I care if one of you thinks it isn't fair?

Because part of Bush's rhetoric is Iraqi liberation/freedom. Kind of blows that out of the water if he simply ends up replacing Hussein, don't you think?