[new-nickname-zanovo]

Abortion, in the case of rape and/or incest, should never, ever be denied and, as much as I don't want to see federal funds being used to provide abortions for women who simply get pregnant during recreational sex, I would support them being used in cases of rape and/or incest...

I actually don't understand why (much of) the anti-abortion crowd makes an exemption for cases of rape and incest. Either abortion is murder, or it isn't; either a fetus has a right to live, or it doesn't.

[Yinekol]

Where on earth did you hear that?

Am I wrong? Do you not believe a woman should be able to kill her unborn baby is she wants to cause she will get fat?

[wmhardware]

Am I wrong? Do you not believe a woman should be able to kill her unborn baby is she wants to cause she will get fat?

That wasn't my question, my opinion on the subject is irrelevant.

I want to know where you came up with the idea that abortion is somehow about how a woman looks.

[Yinekol]

That wasn't my question, my opinion on the subject is irrelevant.

I want to know where you came up with the idea that abortion is somehow about how a woman looks.

it is a reason they use

[eskimosik]

it is a reason they use

Can you link to something which supports your claim, or did you just expect is to accept what you say as fact...

[wmhardware]

it is a reason they use

I have to second Steve's call for sources, methinks you made it up.

[Ikhqgvas]

I actually don't understand why (much of) the anti-abortion crowd makes an exemption for cases of rape and incest. Either abortion is murder, or it isn't; either a fetus has a right to live, or it doesn't.

They make an exemption because the women never agreed to it so she shouldn't have to give birth and raise the child.

[Ikhqgvas]

How sick are we that people think a woman being able to kill a baby cause she might look fat is a right.

Or women who get abortions just don't want to take responsibility for there actions.

[eskimosik]

They make an exemption because the women never agreed to it so she shouldn't have to give birth and raise the child.

But, as was pointed out, it's still condoning murder.

Anyone who makes such exceptions is pro-choice.

Period.

[gusecrync]

If you want to save a child from abortion then go to one of the many agencies that arrange for the adoption of children from mothers planning abortions, otherwise, shut up, as it's not your body and you truly have no right to have an opinion, one way or the other.

[feannigvogten]

I actually don't understand why (much of) the anti-abortion crowd makes an exemption for cases of rape and incest. Either abortion is murder, or it isn't; either a fetus has a right to live, or it doesn't.

It is never the best solution, but in either case one or both parties are either not consenting or capable of consenting, putting the blood on the hands of those who took advantage.

[eskimosik]

It is never the best solution, but in either case one or both parties are either not consenting or capable of consenting, putting the blood on the hands of those who took advantage.

Translation: PRO-CHOICE

[feannigvogten]

Translation: PRO-CHOICE

Pro-consequences is more accurate.

[eskimosik]

Pro-consequences is more accurate.

No, it's not.

It's "pro-choice".

Suck it up and accept it...

[new-nickname-zanovo]

They make an exemption because the women never agreed to it so she shouldn't have to give birth and raise the child.

Whether or not the woman agreed to it has nothing to do with whether the fetus has a right to life. If killing a fetus is murder, then killing a fetus is murder regardless of the circumstances under which it was created.

[new-nickname-zanovo]

It is never the best solution, but in either case one or both parties are either not consenting or capable of consenting, putting the blood on the hands of those who took advantage.

Again, this makes no logical sense. The "right to life" crowd believe that abortion is murder because the fetus is a person with a right to live. Rape and incest cannot possibly justify murder, can it?

(Just to be clear, I do not believe that abortion is murder. I am simply pointing out that those who believe abortion is murder must believe, if they are being logically consistent, that abortion is murder regardless of the circumstances under which the fetus was conceived. Anything else is a moral cop-out.)

[himecthekWiff]

So, include an exemption for documented rape and incest.

Why? Does that make the killing of the fetus that much more justified?

[himecthekWiff]

They make an exemption because the women never agreed to it so she shouldn't have to give birth and raise the child.

Why not? Since when does incest always equal lack of consent?

[yK2VgoEI]

Why not? Since when does incest always equal lack of consent?

Some things never change.

[Licacivelip]

If you want to save a child from abortion then go to one of the many agencies that arrange for the adoption of children from mothers planning abortions, otherwise, shut up, as it's not your body and you truly have no right to have an opinion, one way or the other.

It not being my body may mean that I have no right to dictate what happens. To say that it means I have no right to an opinion shows just how irrational people are when discussing this topic.