[WrinnaArraple]

(Reuters) - Henry Hyde, a champion of the anti-abortion movement, might turn over in his grave if he knew that a provision of law he authored was an obstacle to individual states banning abortion.

The Hyde Amendment, named for the Illinois Republican who served in Congress for 32 years and died in 2007, initially barred the use of certain federal funds, namely Medicaid health insurance for the poor, to pay for abortion. But the provision, which has been attached to U.S. spending bills since 1976, was changed in 1977 to allow exceptions for pregnancies that result from rape or incest.

In a strange twist of fate, the Hyde Amendment -- whose purpose was to deny federal funding for abortions -- has become a stumbling block in efforts to stop abortions altogether, said Keith Mason, founder and president of the anti-abortion group Personhood USA. "A compromise in legislation that was part of the pro-life movement is the very hurdle that we have to overcome," he told Reuters.

This week lawmakers in Louisiana's state House effectively killed a bill that would have banned abortion outright. The author of that failed bill said lawmakers were put off by a state fiscal analysis that showed that $4.5 billion in federal funds could be at risk if the state criminalizes rape- and incest-related abortion, putting state law out of compliance with Hyde. Anti-abortion efforts in states hit obstacle of own making | Reuters

Anything that slows down the erosion of women's rights is good enough for me.

[eskimosik]

Abortion, in the case of rape and/or incest, should never, ever be denied and, as much as I don't want to see federal funds being used to provide abortions for women who simply get pregnant during recreational sex, I would support them being used in cases of rape and/or incest...

[feannigvogten]

So, include an exemption for documented rape and incest.

[eskimosik]

So, include an exemption for documented rape and incest.

I'd have no problem with that.

I believe a woman who engages in recreational sex should have the right to choose to have an abortion. I also believe that she should have to foot the bill...

[Yinekol]

How sick are we that people think a woman being able to kill a baby cause she might look fat is a right.

[new-nickname-zanovo]

How sick are we that people think a woman being able to kill a baby cause she might look fat is a right.

You make a good point, because as I understand it, that's what the entire abortion debate is about: The right to look thin.

[new-nickname-zanovo]

Abortion, in the case of rape and/or incest, should never, ever be denied and, as much as I don't want to see federal funds being used to provide abortions for women who simply get pregnant during recreational sex, I would support them being used in cases of rape and/or incest...

I actually don't understand why (much of) the anti-abortion crowd makes an exemption for cases of rape and incest. Either abortion is murder, or it isn't; either a fetus has a right to live, or it doesn't.

[wmhardware]

How sick are we that people think a woman being able to kill a baby cause she might look fat is a right.

Where on earth did you hear that?

[Yinekol]

Where on earth did you hear that?

Am I wrong? Do you not believe a woman should be able to kill her unborn baby is she wants to cause she will get fat?

[wmhardware]

Am I wrong? Do you not believe a woman should be able to kill her unborn baby is she wants to cause she will get fat?

That wasn't my question, my opinion on the subject is irrelevant.

I want to know where you came up with the idea that abortion is somehow about how a woman looks.

[Yinekol]

That wasn't my question, my opinion on the subject is irrelevant.

I want to know where you came up with the idea that abortion is somehow about how a woman looks.

it is a reason they use

[eskimosik]

it is a reason they use

Can you link to something which supports your claim, or did you just expect is to accept what you say as fact...

[wmhardware]

it is a reason they use

I have to second Steve's call for sources, methinks you made it up.

[Ikhqgvas]

I actually don't understand why (much of) the anti-abortion crowd makes an exemption for cases of rape and incest. Either abortion is murder, or it isn't; either a fetus has a right to live, or it doesn't.

They make an exemption because the women never agreed to it so she shouldn't have to give birth and raise the child.

[Ikhqgvas]

How sick are we that people think a woman being able to kill a baby cause she might look fat is a right.

Or women who get abortions just don't want to take responsibility for there actions.

[eskimosik]

They make an exemption because the women never agreed to it so she shouldn't have to give birth and raise the child.

But, as was pointed out, it's still condoning murder.

Anyone who makes such exceptions is pro-choice.

Period.

[gusecrync]

If you want to save a child from abortion then go to one of the many agencies that arrange for the adoption of children from mothers planning abortions, otherwise, shut up, as it's not your body and you truly have no right to have an opinion, one way or the other.

[feannigvogten]

I actually don't understand why (much of) the anti-abortion crowd makes an exemption for cases of rape and incest. Either abortion is murder, or it isn't; either a fetus has a right to live, or it doesn't.

It is never the best solution, but in either case one or both parties are either not consenting or capable of consenting, putting the blood on the hands of those who took advantage.

[eskimosik]

It is never the best solution, but in either case one or both parties are either not consenting or capable of consenting, putting the blood on the hands of those who took advantage.

Translation: PRO-CHOICE

[feannigvogten]

Translation: PRO-CHOICE

Pro-consequences is more accurate.